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Post by albascorp on Jun 24, 2012 7:50:46 GMT -5
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 24, 2012 10:18:28 GMT -5
"Checnya->italy->albanimalia" Pyrro, the theories they have for us are just a mess, mountain theory is a joke, l mean we even had the Bereziti slavic tribe, a mountain tribe inhabiting the mountains of Albania. Bereziti was translated as highlanders, in Serbian we have the word brezhuljakast (hilly) As you Pyrro the proper slavic name of Bereziti would had been Berezhichi. PS Stupid Albanians don't know, l knew this, but didn't want to reveal this to them because l just wanted to play with the data they presented to me lol, epiros is 90% mountainous and 90% of those mountains have slavic toponyms... LMAO @ mountain theory...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 24, 2012 10:22:07 GMT -5
you think only albanians got slavic words but in fact serbs have more alb words in their dictionary...
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Post by micsokoli on Jun 24, 2012 13:03:48 GMT -5
^ Dardanelles, you Anatolians, you We all know Albanians ARN'T ancient, its a fable we hear from you. lol who cares silly guy who was first or last what matter is things changes and peoples changes and lands changes hands and we got ours and your hurt butt booo booo
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 24, 2012 13:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 13:49:22 GMT -5
^ Dardanelles, you Anatolians, you We all know Albanians ARN'T ancient, its a fable we hear from you. lol who cares silly guy who was first or last what matter is things changes and peoples changes and lands changes hands and we got ours and your hurt butt booo booo the who came first argument is primarily used by Albanians. Without this argument they haven't much to say.
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:03:29 GMT -5
When debating about our territorial disputes you always rely on the "ancients" and some "fact" that you were first in the Balkans and that Slavs "invaded". So yes, I'm sticking to my point.
Without the "who came first argument" - you have nothing.
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Post by micsokoli on Jun 24, 2012 14:11:58 GMT -5
we have self determination population majority and big guns military base thats what you ahve to defeat not some bullshit we were here first easter bunny fairytale
tell me if texas and california population turns with 95% mexican aztlan who do you think rules the land not the white man from uashington anymore
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:18:40 GMT -5
When debating about our territorial disputes you always rely on the "ancients" and some "fact" that you were first in the Balkans and that Slavs "invaded". So yes, I'm sticking to my point. Without the "who came first argument" - you have nothing. who cares what you boys think we have, its like poker for high stakes you push your chip and you play your cards and either you win it or not but maybe all you could ever beat is teh bluff hand no better than that You missing the point champ. We Serbs don't give a flying fuck what you are or what you think you are. You're the ones obsessed with our origins.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 24, 2012 14:21:21 GMT -5
Slavs arrived at the time when Byzantine empire was fighting wars of survival in Anatolia against mighty Persians. Slavs and Avars in comparison to Persians were probably regarded by Byzantines as benign pests. Much of Byzantine Balkans were left undefended and thus militarily sacrificed to mainly Slavs. Slavs were much less numerous then defenseless native population but dominated it having organized military formations. Destruction of many cities across Illyricum, Macedonia and Thrace also brought cultural devastation of the natives and dark ages over next several centuries. Some natives probably became absorbed into slavic masses through capture for instance. Remaining natives probably moved to highlands and became Vlachs that with time became Serbs, Croats or Bulgarians (explains why anthropologically or genetically Balkans slavs are not exactly "slavic"). Handful of Spaniards took millions of native Americans in central America (that got assimilated into spanish culture) is but one similar example. Avar threat While the Byzantines had been occupied with the Persians, the Avars and Slavs had poured into the Balkans, capturing several Byzantine cities, namely Singidunum (Belgrade), Viminacium (Kostolac), Naissus (Niš), and Sardica (Sofia), and destroying Salona in 614. However, numerous attempts by the Slavs and Avars to take Thessalonica, the most important Byzantine city in the Balkans after Constantinople, ended in failure, allowing the Empire to hold onto a vital stronghold in the region.[85] Other minor cities on the Adriatic coast like Jadar (Zadar), Tragurium (Trogir), Butua (Budva), Scodra (Skadar), and Lissus (Ljes) also survived the invasions.[86] Isidore of Seville even claims that the Slavs took "Greece" from the Byzantines.[87] The Avars also began to raid Thrace, threatening commerce and agriculture, even near the gates of Constantinople.[87]
Because of the need to defend against these incursions, the Byzantines could not afford to use all their forces against the Persians. Heraclius sent an envoy to the Avar Khagan, saying that the Byzantines would pay a tribute in return for the Avars' withdrawing north of the Danube.[64] The Khagan replied by asking for a meeting on 5 June 623, at Heraclea in Thrace, where the Avar army was located; Heraclius agreed to this meeting, coming with his royal court.[88] The Khagan, however, put horsemen en route to Heraclea to ambush and capture Heraclius, so they could hold him for ransom.[89] Heraclius was fortunately warned in time and managed to escape, chased by the Avars all the way to Constantinople. Many members of his court however, as well as an alleged 70,000 Thracian peasants who came to see their Emperor, were captured and killed by the Khagan's men.[90] Despite this treachery, Heraclius was forced to give the Avars a subsidy of 200,000 solidi along with his illegitimate son John Athalarichos, his nephew Stephen, and the illegitimate son of the patrician Bonus as hostages in return for peace. This left him more able to focus his war effort completely on the Persians.[89][91] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine–Sassanid_War_of_602–628#Avar_threat
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Post by micsokoli on Jun 24, 2012 14:33:57 GMT -5
You missing the point champ. We Serbs don't give a flying f**k what you are or what you think you are. You're the ones obsessed with our origins. and you are obsessed with ours good fella i see the dumb shit rhetoric like cheap communist propaganda from drunk political komisar all over internet plastered but what does that have to do with anything tomorrow the sudanese nigros could park their tanks in kosova and if nobody can kick them out then guess who the new master of Kosova is and we can all cry till the pigs fly who was here first
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Post by micsokoli on Jun 24, 2012 14:48:38 GMT -5
Avar threatWhile the Byzantines had been occupied with the Persians, the Avars and Slavs had poured into the Balkans, capturing several Byzantine cities, namely Singidunum (Belgrade), Viminacium (Kostolac), Naissus (Niš), and Sardica (Sofia), and destroying Salona in 614. However, numerous attempts by the Slavs and Avars to take Thessalonica, the most important Byzantine city in the Balkans after Constantinople, ended in failure, allowing the Empire to hold onto a vital stronghold in the region.[85] Other minor cities on the Adriatic coast like Jadar (Zadar), Tragurium (Trogir), Butua (Budva), Scodra (Skadar), and Lissus (Ljes) also survived the invasions.[86] Isidore of Seville even claims that the Slavs took "Greece" from the Byzantines.[87] The Avars also began to raid Thrace, threatening commerce and agriculture, even near the gates of Constantinople.[87] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine–Sassanid_War_of_602–628#Avar_threat peaceful native farmers a lilly whites ass
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Post by rex362 on Jun 24, 2012 14:50:41 GMT -5
^ was there a war between the Slavs and ancient pelegasian illyrians back in the 5th century? Very simple question Rexy. we had slavs vs pelasgian illlyrians war just recently some 20 years ago and you twist that as well let alone 5th century no recorded wars ....village wars maybe ....you came in hoards
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:52:43 GMT -5
You missing the point champ. We Serbs don't give a flying f**k what you are or what you think you are. You're the ones obsessed with our origins. and you are obsessed with ours good fella i see the dumb s**t rhetoric like cheap communist propaganda from drunk political komisar all over internet plastered but what does that have to do with anything tomorrow the sudanese nigros could park their tanks in kosova and if nobody can kick them out then guess who the new master of Kosova is and we can all cry till the pigs fly who was here first Your "goals" only become our concern when you step into our turf. We couldn't care less for your Albania yet all of you crave Serb lands.
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:55:58 GMT -5
^ was there a war between the Slavs and ancient pelegasian illyrians back in the 5th century? Very simple question Rexy. we had slavs vs pelasgian illlyrians war just recently some 20 years ago and you twist that as well let alone 5th century no recorded wars ....village wars maybe ....you came in hoards Slavs didn't function as "conquerers" they functioned as settlers. If the Slavs wanted to eliminate you they would've.
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Post by valmir on Jun 24, 2012 14:56:00 GMT -5
LONG LIVE THE ANCIENT PEOPLE OF BALCAN!
SLAVS OUT OF BALCAN!
First you said that we come from Kaukaz, than you said we come from Sicily, than you said we are Normands, than you said we are Slavs BUT ALBANIANS SAY THAT WE ARE ILLYRIANS AND ONLY ILLYRIANS! - ILIR DHE KRENAR!
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:56:43 GMT -5
^ i think you're going to need some kleenex.
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Post by valmir on Jun 24, 2012 14:57:23 GMT -5
The hate of slavs for the native peoples of Balcan is so big, your hearts are burning cus you are losing against the Albanians! A SMALL NATION IN BALCAN WITH BIG HEART!
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Post by Shqipni13 on Jun 24, 2012 14:58:28 GMT -5
^He makes a good point. How many theories do you guys jump on like a whore does a dick?
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Post by uz on Jun 24, 2012 14:59:59 GMT -5
^He makes a good point. How many theories do you guys jump on like a w**re does a dick? Again. It's not up to us to decide where you came from or what you are. This is your duty. We're only demonstrating fallacies and other interpretations. Stop blasphemizing the Illyrians. You have zero connection to them today. You know nothing of them. Stop tainting their legacy.
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