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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 7, 2012 18:00:55 GMT -5
The Slavs - Natives and Conquerors
Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:12:08 PM
Dacians, Thracians and Illyrians never existed as nations and there never existed such languages as Thracian, Dacian and Illyrian. For God's sake, how the Slavs could have assimilated the huge masses of the native Balkan population without war; and how it could have happened that the Romans hadn't noticed any single war between the Balkan "aborigines" and the Slavic "newcomers"?
Romans mentioned the Illyrian kings Bardyllis, Grabos, Pleuratus, Cleitus the Illyrian, Glaukias, Bardyllis II, Monunius, Mytilus, Pleuratus II, Agron, Pinnes, Skerdilaidas, Pleuratus III, Gentius, Ballaios, Queen Teuta, Bato/Baton ((from 4th BC - 1st century AD); Dacian, from Charnabon to Burebista and Decebalus (5th BC - 2th AD); and the Roman mentioned many of the wars they (Dacians, Thracians and Illyrians) fought against Romans and among themselves.
In the middle of the 5th century AD the Slavs "crossed" the Danube river and the all "ancient" Illyro/Dacio/Thracian people immediately disappeared without the trace. The Serbs and Croats "invaded" the Balkan Peninsula 150 years later (the beginning of the 7th century!) and no one spotted (noted) any conflict between the "autochthonous" people and their "conquerors".
All this sounds to me ludicrous, even sillier than the description of the Slavic warriors in Maurice's Strategikon, where they were described as "underwater ambushers" who were "breathing through long cane stalks". Nobody seems to be bothering to check the mentioned "underwater strategy" to see is such a "military assignment" feasible at all. Of course, it is not feasible! You cannot lie under water and breath through the cane stalk as well as it is impossible to conqer and assimilate the "aborigines" without the war.
In this specific Balkan case, the "natives" and the "conquerors" were the same people - the Slavs!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 7, 2012 18:03:38 GMT -5
^ This is another reason WHY the stupid Albanian MOUNTAIN THEORY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FORMULATED BY WESTERN SCHOLARS FAILS. One must wonder WHY they derived the mountain theory because they understood Albanians weren't even there to beign with PS 11th century comes to mind, hey Albs LMAO
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Post by atdhetar on Jun 8, 2012 5:28:00 GMT -5
this is precisely why serbs are the laughing stock of europe, you come form bland culture that has nothing to offer, you borrowed everything from the neighbouring countries and yet yu have the audacity to point fingers and take it upon your conceited selfs to educate others on their own glorious history,
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 8, 2012 5:34:11 GMT -5
^^^ neighboring countries are either Serbian-Slavic or ex-slavic.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 22, 2012 22:07:33 GMT -5
^ Pyrro, the Albanians are mainly Ex-Slavic stock, *primarily* Albanianised during Ottomans.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 22, 2012 22:11:46 GMT -5
"this is precisely why serbs are the laughing stock of europe, you come form bland culture that has nothing to offer, you borrowed everything from the neighbouring countries and yet yu have the audacity to point fingers and take it upon your conceited selfs to educate others on their own glorious history"
Serbs and Slavs borrowed nothing from the 11th century Shqiptars (Albanians), completely the opposite with Shqiptars (Albanians) thou. Serbs borrowed from Greeks, end of story.
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Post by atdhetar on Jun 23, 2012 3:40:27 GMT -5
you did moron, that's why your bastard culture is neither here nor there, otherwise you'd have a distinct slavic culture
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Post by Novus Dis on Jun 23, 2012 4:26:51 GMT -5
this is precisely why serbs are the laughing stock of europe, you come form bland culture that has nothing to offer, you borrowed everything from the neighbouring countries and yet yu have the audacity to point fingers and take it upon your conceited selfs to educate others on their own glorious history, I can't take these words seriously when I know they're coming out of a Shqiptar.
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Post by albascorp on Jun 23, 2012 6:06:46 GMT -5
i see the monkey is stil trying to write with dildo of his mom
its clear that you writed that on your own and there is not even 1 fact of what you write
to begin with
how is possible slavs conqeurd with no war.... hhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah
it is possible cuz they attacked civilians there wasnt a war but only massmurder on civilians
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 23, 2012 19:50:36 GMT -5
"I can't take these words seriously when I know they're coming out of a Shqiptar."
I can't also Novus.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 23, 2012 19:54:50 GMT -5
"you did moron, that's why your bastard culture is neither here nor there, otherwise you'd have a distinct slavic culture"
Yes Serbs did borrow, we borrowed primarily from Greeks, not Albanians. Albanians are the new kid on the block, with their own wacky traditions like Dervish piercing rituals. Its really weird we serbs even borrowed from Hungarians who are younger than us, but nothing from Albanians who heavily borrowed from Serbs/Slavs.
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Post by rex362 on Jun 23, 2012 19:55:00 GMT -5
The Slavs - Natives and Conquerors Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:12:08 PM Dacians, Thracians and Illyrians never existed as nations and there never existed such languages as Thracian, Dacian and Illyrian. For God's sake, how the Slavs could have assimilated the huge masses of the native Balkan population without war; and how it could have happened that the Romans hadn't noticed any single war between the Balkan "aborigines" and the Slavic "newcomers"? Romans mentioned the Illyrian kings Bardyllis, Grabos, Pleuratus, Cleitus the Illyrian, Glaukias, Bardyllis II, Monunius, Mytilus, Pleuratus II, Agron, Pinnes, Skerdilaidas, Pleuratus III, Gentius, Ballaios, Queen Teuta, Bato/Baton ((from 4th BC - 1st century AD); Dacian, from Charnabon to Burebista and Decebalus (5th BC - 2th AD); and the Roman mentioned many of the wars they (Dacians, Thracians and Illyrians) fought against Romans and among themselves. In the middle of the 5th century AD the Slavs "crossed" the Danube river and the all "ancient" Illyro/Dacio/Thracian people immediately disappeared without the trace. The Serbs and Croats "invaded" the Balkan Peninsula 150 years later (the beginning of the 7th century!) and no one spotted (noted) any conflict between the "autochthonous" people and their "conquerors". All this sounds to me ludicrous, even sillier than the description of the Slavic warriors in Maurice's Strategikon, where they were described as "underwater ambushers" who were "breathing through long cane stalks". Nobody seems to be bothering to check the mentioned "underwater strategy" to see is such a "military assignment" feasible at all. Of course, it is not feasible! You cannot lie under water and breath through the cane stalk as well as it is impossible to conqer and assimilate the "aborigines" without the war. In this specific Balkan case, the "natives" and the "conquerors" were the same people - the Slavs! fyromanian tactics ^^ go ask baba rus .....they will tell ya where you from
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 23, 2012 20:06:46 GMT -5
^ was there a war between the Slavs and ancient pelegasian illyrians back in the 5th century?
Very simple question Rexy.
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Post by Srpski Svet on Jun 23, 2012 20:12:35 GMT -5
albs are borderline romani gypsies and they're speaking of a distinct culture. Slavic/Eastern Euro culture is world renown, shiptar 'culture' is nothing but middle-eastern vomit
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 23, 2012 21:14:01 GMT -5
^ Svet, the modern Shqiptars (Albanians) were brought to the Shkumbini river region by Byzantines from Sicily as soliders/mercenaries. The Shqiptars (Albanians) were also brought to Sicily by Byzantines from the fringes of Byzantium (Eastern Anatolia). Arberani is a topoymn in Armenia, most Shqiptars (Albanians) won't know this at all.
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Post by micsokoli on Jun 23, 2012 22:14:20 GMT -5
Slav natives beetches pleez. Slav come to Balkan because Avar and Gokturk push you around and pull leash.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 24, 2012 0:33:39 GMT -5
^ Svet, the modern Shqiptars (Albanians) were brought to the Shkumbini river region by Byzantines from Sicily as soliders/mercenaries. The Shqiptars (Albanians) were also brought to Sicily by Byzantines from the fringes of Byzantium (Eastern Anatolia). Arberani is a topoymn in Armenia, most Shqiptars (Albanians) won't know this at all. that is the answer. Checnya->italy->albanimalia Now the question is "who are we" Novi.... We modern greeks have a 10000000 similarities with the albinos, naming a few: - identical national dress - identical music - identical mentality - both anti-slav - both live in ex-Serb/Slav/Bulgarian lands - both failed to rename the old slavic toponyms - both nations have a remarkable record of distorting history - both nations are also known for being absolutely unsuccessful and uncreative in doing the above. - both are disorganized - both have zero industrial past - both countries are equally dirty - both countries are the least euro-looking countries of the balkans (yugoslavia-bulgaria-turkey look more european) - both countries are keen on licking foreign butts - neither country have real local elites - both nations love to *NOT* write down numbers/statistics and to be organized - both nations are known for limited imagination and creativity - both nations are ultra rude and show no respect to no-one - both countries are the only one in the balkans where zebra crossing is unknown term If albos are just tourists here (and i believe that), the same arguments hold for at least 70% of the greek lands. So what happened with us? Where did we come from? I do not wanna create any tension here, just asking the obvious question.
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Post by albascorp on Jun 24, 2012 5:59:11 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 24, 2012 6:12:05 GMT -5
^ Dardanelles, you Anatolians, you We all know Albanians ARN'T ancient, its a fable we hear from you.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 24, 2012 6:33:40 GMT -5
"Checnya->italy->albanimalia" Pyrro, the theories they have for us are just a mess, mountain theory is a joke, l mean we even had the Bereziti slavic tribe, a mountain tribe inhabiting the mountains of Albania. Bereziti was translated as highlanders, in Serbian we have the word brezhuljakast (hilly) As you Pyrro the proper slavic name of Bereziti would had been Berezhichi. PS Stupid Albanians don't know, l knew this, but didn't want to reveal this to them because l just wanted to play with the data they presented to me
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