Trazi Vise
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Today's "church" has NOTHING to do with religion.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jul 2, 2008 16:38:32 GMT -5
I think someones abit lost here. ^^^Before babbling on, please answer mine first without avoiding them or going off topic. You know what I mean.
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Post by tiprat on Jul 2, 2008 17:17:01 GMT -5
Deucaon Serb are dumb too I see?....or is it just you? The theory of why Kosovo is Serbian, contradicts the theory of why you think Krajina is Serbian. Deucaon,…….serbia lost….she was in the wrong…..accept it and move on because Serbia can be a great nation of Europe if it didn’t dwell on its own propaganda so much. Everyone country has propaganda but the serbs are KINGS of propaganda…. Deucaon……wake up…..serbia lost….and the true croatia which now is, is prospering, Obviously Croatia doesn’t need Jugoslavia, and obviously Serbia needs Croatia best serbs like you wake up to reality and what is really happening, to bring a strong serbia out into europe
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Post by vinjak on Jul 2, 2008 17:27:45 GMT -5
and obviously Serbia needs Croatia
Thats a interesting quote please explain ? and in your opinion does Croatia need a strong Serbia or does Croatia need a weak Serbia ?
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Post by tiprat on Jul 2, 2008 21:00:22 GMT -5
In short
Serbia’s GLORY days were in Jugoslavia WITH Croatia…….serbia never had days like that my friend.
Now without Croatia they are sliding down hill…and continually slow unfortunately
Croatia on the other hand is on a steady rise, and rapid in some instances.
Croatia doesn’t NEED a strong nor a week Serbia, but it would be benefital for the region that she were STRONG, so it would be a positive (for croatia) for Serbia to be strong (for stability in the regions sake), but as we can see not a necessity.
Serbs need to get out of there propaganda and move ON
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Anthologic
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"Lord of all Reality"
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Post by Anthologic on Jul 2, 2008 21:24:08 GMT -5
What ARE you talking about?
Both Croatia and Serbia were instigators in the 90s, but to western media somebody had to be the evil bad guy and somebody the victim. It wasn't that simple and you damn well know it so stop acting the truth is what CNN says, and that the only propaganda victims are the poor serbians.
Besides, you don't have a degree in politics OR economics... you let grownups make the decisions ok?
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Post by tiprat on Jul 2, 2008 21:46:11 GMT -5
Anthologic are you on any meds? To control that propaganda you so much believe?
In every war, both sides do bad things which shouldn’t be done, but in general there is always an aggressor.
Croatia would of happily taken independence without a war, Serbia wanted control, therefore been the aggressor, the war was in Croatia by the way (not Serbia) if you didn’t know that.
i could get the economics stats and political what nots, but I seriously could be going that far with a bunch off brain washed retards, who would rather put there beliefs into propaganda.
It would just be beneficial for everyone and in particular Serbia, is the majority woke up and moved towards been an outstanding Serbia which the potential is there.
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Anthologic
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Post by Anthologic on Jul 3, 2008 0:03:53 GMT -5
Is there a reason you're making it out to be as if Serbia outright declared war on Croatia to conquer it? Biased much. The main reason there was a war was because the Serbs in Croatia were not allowed independence themselves.
The war that took place in Croatia (something happened in Bosnia too in case you never bothered to read up on that) occurred in Serbian Krajina, where those Serbs have been living for at least 100 years. So your comment "the war was in Croatia by the way (not Serbia)" is a shitwash retard comment. Deny their legitimacy? Then give Dalmatia back to Italy, and Istria back to Slovenia and Italy... oh right you conveniently disregard that.
Economic stats and political whatnots? Please let us be enlightened. Because I thought I was using whatnots...
This thread's lost its usefulness anyways.
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Post by tiprat on Jul 3, 2008 4:43:04 GMT -5
No buddy the MAIN reason why there was a war is because serbia didn’t want croatia to be independent full stop, if you don’t believe that ….then yehh…keep reading your serbian news papers…. Yes I know something happened in Bosna…but that isnt the topic here (just in case you didn’t notice) Serbs were there for 100 years…..wow……a whole century……they could of stayed there on croatian teritory in hrvatska if they wanted to, instead of creating a RS croatians was there longgggggggg before the serbs………………so with that theory I guess Kosovo is ok then? the war was in Croatia by the way (not Serbia)" is a shitwash retard comment. Deny their legitimacy?............lol where was it? in SERBIA?...keep reading your Serbian news papers “Then give Dalmatia back to Italy, and Istria back to Slovenia and Italy... oh right you conveniently disregard that.” Ahhhhhhhh why should we give it back to them?? Dalmaticja has been croatia for a long time (some periods italy had control)….way back to king tom and even before that….and Istria back to slovenia??.....fark me…….keep reading those Serbian newspapers…….. ;D Wake up I beg you for the good off Europe.
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Anthologic
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Post by Anthologic on Jul 3, 2008 20:48:40 GMT -5
Serb propaganda? We should ask Fikret Alic about serb concentration camps eh? I can't read cyrillic anyways, so I can't stop reading something I never have in the first place. Good try again though.
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Post by tiprat on Jul 3, 2008 21:43:32 GMT -5
good try how you seem to skip 95% off my points. and go way off track good try
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Anthologic
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Post by Anthologic on Jul 4, 2008 2:56:37 GMT -5
We're talking propaganda, seems relevant Ièd say.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 4, 2008 3:40:33 GMT -5
I have a question for Croatians on these forums: how did Serbia invade Croatia when Serbia did not exist during the 1990s? I think someones abit lost here. ^^^Before babbling on, please answer mine first without avoiding them or going off topic. You know what I mean. o.O; What question are you talking about? Deucaon Serb are dumb too I see?....or is it just you? The theory of why Kosovo is Serbian, contradicts the theory of why you think Krajina is Serbian. No, actually it doesn't. Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbia is its own country/region. The Republic of Serb Krajina is its own country/region. Pretty fucking simple.
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Post by tiprat on Jul 4, 2008 4:35:11 GMT -5
hahahaha
i rest my case with the post above from Deucaon
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Jul 4, 2008 6:07:33 GMT -5
You should work on your history, Ottomans (not all that sure about Hapsburgs) settled a nomadic people called Vlahs on their borders in the North of Bosnia and Croatia. They were mercenaries called Martologs, they were orthodox. They may be assimilated among Serbs today but they weren't Serbs then.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 4, 2008 6:50:53 GMT -5
hahahaha i rest my case with the post above from Deucaon hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahahahahahah owww.....and hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah GTFO, troll. Seriously. You should work on your history, Ottomans (not all that sure about Hapsburgs) settled a nomadic people called Vlahs on their borders in the North of Bosnia and Croatia. They were mercenaries called Martologs, they were orthodox. They may be assimilated among Serbs today but they weren't Serbs then. Source, please.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Jul 4, 2008 7:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by tiprat on Jul 4, 2008 12:02:16 GMT -5
How about the fact that Kosovo is its own country....true is it not? and the fact that Krajina is in croatia? true is it not?.....and has been for over 1000years....king zvonimirs castle is there
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 4, 2008 12:59:23 GMT -5
None of your sources explain how the "Vlachs" or "Martologs" somehow forgot their traditions, culture, language, etc. and miraculously turned into Serbs (considering that Vlachs and Serbs come from completely different cultural and linguistic groups it seems very odd if one had assimilated the other unless one group was insignificant in number which would mean that the amount of "Vlach" in the Serb bloodline would be low)... except for the last article which is constantly contradicting itself. Also...How about the fact that Kosovo is its own country....true is it not? and the fact that Krajina is in croatia? true is it not?.....and has been for over 1000years....king zvonimirs castle is there Croats/Hungarians gave Serbs the land in Krajina while Albanians took the land in Kosovo without the permission of Serbians. Therefore Serbs in Krajina are there legally while Albanians in Kosovo are squatters.
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Jul 4, 2008 15:14:32 GMT -5
How did Vlahs in other regions get assimilated? You seem to forget that nations in Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia formed around religions. Since Vlahs were orthodox it is obvious how they forgot their traditions, culture, language, etc. and "miraculously" turned into Serbs.
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Jul 4, 2008 15:16:33 GMT -5
Guys this thread has spiraled out of control, and waaaaaay off topic. Locked.
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