|
Post by Red Brigade on Jun 27, 2008 15:38:00 GMT -5
FOURTH GRADE UBER ALLESEnd of School With Year Book Full of Swastikas Ustasha songs proposed as generation anthem. T-shirts with the slogan “Uber alles” mean nothing; high school seniors from Makarska think.ZAGREB, CROATIA – Just a joke or a serious problem the one Croatia has to face? The year book of seniors from the school Fra Andrija Kacic Miosic in Makarska is full of swastikas, Makarska Kronika reports. In addition to that, the students of the last year celebrated the last day of school with the words “Uber Alles” written on their t-shirts. The real reason for these jokes is still unknown. Parents remained with not comment, school students are preparing for acceptance tests, and unpleasantly surprised teachers are trying to find an explanation. Uber Alles is nothing wrong? The class mistress of the 4th grade D Uber Alles, Bozenka Pavlic, condemned her pupils. She said she is horrified, sad and hurt with the pupils’ behaviour. She confirmed that the photographs and the remaining materials necessary for the year book arrived 24 hours later than the time agreed for the printing and that they were forwarded without being inspected. The colleagues from the grade did not want to point out the culprit publicly. She said that she protested due to the t-shirts, but that boys and girls convinced her there was nothing wrong in them and that she eventually only refused to wear one. Jasenovac and Gradiska Stara as generation anthem! What is worrying is the fact that one of the seniors proposed the fascist songs Jasenovac and Gradiska Stara to be their generation anthems. After all, they are young people who should respond of their actions and who are approached to all the events that took place in history. Pictures made when the first part of the grade was photographed- I was shocked too, because as soon as I saw the year book, I knew that a catastrophic mistake had been made and that it would make a lot of noise. I can only express sadness for the shame that has been thrown on the school and the grade, and the teachers who helped us and who have nothing to do with what has happened. This is a vapid joke, and I can only say I doubt it should be taken as an open insult to anyone. However, it simply should have not happened – said Milen Druzijanic, teacher of the 4th grade D, and one of the editors of the year book. She said that she knew that such pictures existed and that they were made when the first half of the grade was photographed, but she did not think that someone would even think of having those pictures printed. According to Ms Durzijanic, half of the grade was in favour of wearing the problematic t-shirts so eventually everyone wore them. Only God knows what they were thinkingThe mayor of Makarska, Marko Ozic Bebek, thinks that the young rebels do what they are forbidden to. - Although in this case I still do not know anything, the fact is that there is a big problem if they really had their pictures taken like that. God knows what they were thinking, but I think that part of the problem lies in the fact that they are still children, who often do what they are forbidden as sign of rebellion. They do not understand the problem because they consider it a gimmick – said the mayor. www.javno.com/en/croatia/
|
|
Anthologic
Amicus
"Lord of all Reality"
Ha!
Posts: 1,237
|
Post by Anthologic on Jun 27, 2008 16:09:19 GMT -5
Bottom right chick looks hot.
|
|
|
Post by vinjak on Jun 27, 2008 17:29:11 GMT -5
Just dumb teenagers.
The school should probably revoke there grades and fail them for being so stupid.
|
|
MiG
Amicus
Republika
Posts: 4,793
|
Post by MiG on Jun 27, 2008 18:00:30 GMT -5
^ I agree. Bottom right chick looks hot. ROFL!
|
|
|
Post by bob1389 on Jun 27, 2008 23:34:35 GMT -5
Just dumb teenagers.The school should probably revoke there grades and fail them for being so stupid. In any other part of the world that would have been the case. But this isn't a 'one off' It's institutional. When you have gathering of 60 000 people in Zagreb, in Split singing war songs (welcome to 2008), parading in WW2 outfits, this shit is mainstream. Now you have new generations treating songs like 'Jasenovac i Gradiska stara' as anthems FFS...we would have to be very fucken naive to think that there will be no more war
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 28, 2008 1:40:39 GMT -5
Croatia has a big problem with Nazis/Ustashi, everyone knows that. The reason there is a problem is because there isn't any organized opposition.
Also the swastikas are on backward so technically they aren't swastikas.
|
|
Kralj Vatra
Amicus
Warning: Sometimes uses foul language & insults!!!
20%
Posts: 9,814
|
Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 28, 2008 5:05:19 GMT -5
The problem is that they dont see that behind their idols (germans), are the saxons, and behind them the Jewish creme de la creme.
|
|
|
Post by spartacus on Jun 28, 2008 13:44:54 GMT -5
Serbia has a problem idolizing Cetnik cutthroats as well as war criminals such as the likes of Vojislav Seselj
|
|
|
Post by radovic on Jun 28, 2008 14:16:59 GMT -5
Serbia has a problem idolizing Cetnik cutthroats as well as war criminals such as the likes of Vojislav Seselj And Croatia has a problem idiolizing Ustasha, Nazi's and going Sieg Heil to German tourists.
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 28, 2008 18:55:31 GMT -5
Serbia has a problem idolizing Cetnik cutthroats as well as war criminals such as the likes of Vojislav Seselj Chetniks are too be proud of. They fought the foreign fascists and the local traitorous communists. No one of today is a Chetnik so your idiot statement holds no logic. As for war criminals... well... innocent until proven guilty but failing that: one person's war criminal is another person's hero. Certainly, no one in Serbian history is comparable to the likes of Pavelic and his group of crazies. And hello Spartacus! I read some of your posts on the old forum and they were funny.
|
|
|
Post by spartacus on Jun 28, 2008 20:50:29 GMT -5
Cetniks fought the ""fascists"" yet I can find pictures of them collaborating with the Germans. So much for that piece of propaganda. Does fighting fascists constitute bombing entire villages and ethnic cleansing? As well as things like genital mutiliation and rape?
Serbs love to play the Ustasa card to justify their atrocities, and they do a good job in lying about Ante Pavelic. Partizan propaganda after the war helped the Serbian propaganda machine tremendously in the 90's.
|
|
|
Post by spartacus on Jun 28, 2008 20:53:10 GMT -5
And those high school photos are nothing more than student rebellion and svaka im cast. The jewish lobbies have been abusing the Holocaust to fit their own agendas and they never stop picking on Croatia because our politicians kiss their asses. They need to shut up and move on. Croatia has gotten to the point where if you don't wear the grb with the spikey thing and animal farm on top then you are a Fascist jew hater.
|
|
|
Post by srbobran on Jun 28, 2008 21:19:44 GMT -5
I dunno, you tell me, your kinsmen seem to have had a hell of a lot more practice. The Chetniks weren't half as glorious or great as alot of my countrymen portray them as, I'll give you that but the Ustasha atrocities against Serbs (and the sheer size of them) are undeniable.
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 28, 2008 21:20:19 GMT -5
Cetniks fought the ""fascists"" yet I can find pictures of them collaborating with the Germans. You see pictures of soldiers in Chetnik garb hanging out with German soldiers (Mladic and Clark, anyone?) You don’t see any pictures of Mihailovic or Djujic shaking hands with Hitler (like you do with Pavelic.) So much for that piece of propaganda. Does fighting fascists constitute bombing entire villages and ethnic cleansing? As well as things like genital mutiliation and rape? No it doesn’t. I hope you aren’t implying that Chetniks did that because if you don’t have any solid evidence then its slander. Serbs love to play the Ustasa card to justify their atrocities, Citation needed. and they do a good job in lying about Ante Pavelic. Citation needed. Partizan propaganda after the war helped the Serbian propaganda machine tremendously in the 90's. Citation needed.
|
|
|
Post by spartacus on Jun 28, 2008 22:27:37 GMT -5
citation from where?? srpska mreza.com or pavelic papers??? lmaooo oh how non-biased those sources are. Like I said, todays sources depicting the Ustasa movement are the same sources written by the likes of Dedijer after the war that fit well with the Serbian propaganda machinery in justifying their slaughter over Croats.
How about those cetniks that slaughtered the population of Vukovar? "bit ce mesa klacemo hrvate" or is that Fascist propaganda?
So what if Pavelic was with Hitler, Tito,Roosevelt, and Churchill were with Stalin, a man who murdered far more. And Draza was not the most flamboyant Axis hater. Accepting arms from the Italians to fight the Partizans does not really fit into the "axis hater" criteria.
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 28, 2008 22:55:46 GMT -5
citation from where?? srpska mreza.com or pavelic papers??? lmaooo oh how non-biased those sources are. Like I said, todays sources depicting the Ustasa movement are the same sources written by the likes of Dedijer after the war that fit well with the Serbian propaganda machinery in justifying their slaughter over Croats. In other words: you have no proof. I on the other hand have loads of evidence of Ustasha crimes and collaboration. How about those cetniks that slaughtered the population of Vukovar? "bit ce mesa klacemo hrvate" or is that Fascist propaganda? JNA soldiers killing POWs (and singing songs) is hardly comparable to the crimes of the Ustashi. More of that here.So what if Pavelic was with Hitler, Tito,Roosevelt, and Churchill were with Stalin, a man who murdered far more. And Draza was not the most flamboyant Axis hater. Accepting arms from the Italians to fight the Partizans does not really fit into the "axis hater" criteria. Citation needed. Seriously, you need some proof that 1) Pavelic wasn't Hitler's b***h 2) Draza was a collaborator and 3) Chetniks accepted arms from Italians (since they didn't accept arms form Romania I figure this is bulls**t as well.)
|
|
|
Post by spartacus on Jun 28, 2008 23:00:13 GMT -5
Your evidence, like I said a dozen times is bullshit and nothing but propaganda.
Why did the allies shift support from Draza to Tito if I'm wrong? I think you need a history lesson. Italians and Ustase hated eachother to the bitter end.
And you showing me a link about the basket of eyeballs on Pavelic's desk just further shows how misinformed you are. That was taken from a french novel called Kaput. It was a forgery and the writer admitted it was a forgery. Your sources are bullshit and are perfect for The Onion.
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 28, 2008 23:31:08 GMT -5
Your evidence, like I said a dozen times is bulls**t and nothing but propaganda. You are yet to offer me a single shred of evidence for any of your claims. Why did the allies shift support from Draza to Tito if I'm wrong? Because there was a communist mole within the ranks of the British intelligence agency. I think you need a history lesson. Italians and Ustase hated eachother to the bitter end. Citation needed. And you showing me a link about the basket of eyeballs on Pavelic's desk just further shows how misinformed you are. You want me to post pictures of Ustashi sawing heads? You want pictures of skeletal Serb children in a concentration camp? You want pictures of a group of Ustasha holding the head of a Serb priest? You want to see the aftermath of Ustasha crimes? That was taken from a french novel called Kaput. It was a forgery and the writer admitted it was a forgery. Citation needed. Your sources are bulls**t and are perfect for The Onion. And your sources are perfect for... wait... YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SOURCES.
|
|
|
Post by tiprat on Jun 29, 2008 6:27:23 GMT -5
at the end of the day....there wouldnt be any killings or any issues....if serbs stayed in serbia...and not try take croatia..........thats where the problem begins and thats when the Ustasa was born.
|
|
|
Post by Novus Dis on Jun 29, 2008 8:07:23 GMT -5
at the end of the day....there wouldnt be any killings or any issues....if serbs stayed in serbia...and not try take croatia..........thats where the problem begins and thats when the Ustasa was born. This is the basic Ustasha/Tudjmanik mindset. That being that the very presence of Serbs is somehow a threat and that Serbs living in Krajina for 500 years have no right to be there. This xenophobic madness is what led to the war in Croatia.
|
|