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Post by Kubrat on Feb 28, 2008 16:18:00 GMT -5
seriously dude, stop reading the bs on that site and posting it here, their arguments have been refuted many a times.
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Post by Kubrat on Feb 28, 2008 22:57:18 GMT -5
what? do you speak english?
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Post by Kubrat on Feb 28, 2008 16:21:35 GMT -5
any half educated person would know history of macedonia website is not a legitamate and accurate website, it is biased and propaganda filled, using it for argumentative purposes is ridiculous and shamefull.
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 18, 2007 17:14:17 GMT -5
Thats because of the serbian influence on the language, the extra letters they added from their language and the few letters they took out from ours. They sounds wrong because they are wrong, the changes that were done couldn't change the fact that the language is Bulgarian, it just sounds slightly different.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 7, 2008 23:52:20 GMT -5
novi...we both know thats BS.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 7, 2008 17:22:11 GMT -5
"Immediately after that campaign, Simeon sought to punish the Serbian ruler Petar Gojniković who had attempted to betray him by concluding an alliance with the Byzantines.[8] Simeon sent an army led by two of his commanders, Theodore Sigrica and Marmais, to Serbia. The two managed to persuade Petar to attend a personal meeting, during which he was enchained and carried off to Bulgaria, where he died in a dungeon. Simeon put Pavle Branović, prior to that an exile in Bulgaria, on the Serbian throne, thus restoring the Bulgarian influence in Serbia for a while.[84] ... In Serbia, Zaharije was persuaded by the Byzantines to revolt against Simeon. Zaharije was supported by many Bulgarians exhausted from Simeon's endless campaigns against Byzantium.[92] The Bulgarian emperor sent his troops under Sigrica and Marmais, but they were routed and the two commanders beheaded, which forced Simeon to conclude an armistice with Byzantium in order to concentrate on the suppression of the uprising. Simeon sent an army led by Ceslav, son of Klomimir in 924 to depose Zaharija. He was successful as Zaharije fled to Croatia. After this victory, the Serbian nobility was invited to come to Bulgaria and bow to the new Prince. However he did not appear at the supposed meeting and all of them were beheaded. Bulgaria annexed Serbia directly. [15][93] A large portion of its population fled to Tomislav of Croatia, one part was taken into slavery and there were also refugees to Byzantine and to a lesser extent Hungarian territory." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_I_of_Bulgaria#Suppression_of_Serbian_unrest_and_late_campaigns_against_Byzantium"By the late 9th and early 10th centuries, Bulgaria extended to Epirus and Thessaly in the south, Bosnia in the west and controlled all of present-day Romania and eastern Hungary to the north. A Serbian state came into existence as a dependency of the Bulgarian Empire." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bulgaria#First_Bulgarian_Empire"For about four centuries, the city remained a battleground between the Byzantine Empire, the Kingdom of Hungary and the First Bulgarian Empire." Belgrade had been at the very least part of Bulgaria from between 800 and 1015, at least 215 years, if you look at maps and borders that represent dates over those 4 centuries, its a safe assumption to say that Belgrade had been part of Bulgarian territory for about 300 years. under the second Bulgarian empire, anther safe assumption is that Bulgaria ruled of Belgrade for about 50 years. go wiki the second empire. an assumed 350 years, if not more. "It became the capital of an independent Serbian state for the first time in 1284 (lost to Hungary in 1427), the status that it would regain only in 1841, after the liberation from the Ottomans. In the 20th century, it was also the capital of several incarnations of Yugoslavia, up to 2006, when Serbia became an independent state again" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade#Middle_Ageslets assume that yugoslavia = serbia. serbia would have ruled over Belgrade over a total of 310 years. this is not taking into account how many times it may have been lost in between the time periods. are the fact that the last turkish forces left in 1867 and not 1841 "At the same time (around 878.), the first record of the Slavic name Beligrad has appeared, during the rule of the First Bulgarian Empire." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade#Middle_AgesSlavic name first mentioned in 878 as Beligrad in the letter of Pope John VIII to Boris of Bulgaria which means "White city / white fortress". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade#Names_through_history
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 7, 2008 4:21:16 GMT -5
sweetheart, do you know why belgrade is called belgrade?
it's cause the walls around medivel belgrade were white, and were built by Bulgarians.
you should thank the croats, its tomislav that saved you.
because he could never be the ruler of bulgars.simply put. interesting how his son wa 7/8ths Bulgarian.
edit: btw, i forgot to add, that Belgrade has belonged to Bulgaria longer than it has to serbia in history.
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Fends
Apr 5, 2008 15:15:27 GMT -5
Post by Kubrat on Apr 5, 2008 15:15:27 GMT -5
german cars are amazing, such as BMW and Benz
VW is a piece of sh*t, stay the hell away
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 23, 2007 3:00:05 GMT -5
if kosovo gets independence, shit hits the fan, worldwide. but to play the devils advocate, kosovo can get independance even if it means breaking international law.
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 23, 2007 1:59:45 GMT -5
hhaahahaha, you're too funny, ludacris, but funny. so, as a woman she wasn't important because her husband represented Serbia? okay? that doesn't follow logical sense, two different sets of information combined into one, and used to come up with an invalid argument. brought to its knees? according to whom, u? maybe u need to do some reading on this, u seems to be a little weak on ur history lessons marko, serbian dependancy, sure sure, and serbia beat argentina in the world cup a year ago, right?
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 23, 2007 0:52:07 GMT -5
Saying that Dushan was half Bulgarian assumes that women were equal to men in this period. The ethnicity of his mother was irrelevant, which was true for all royalty at that age. He was a Serbian King, Czar as a matter of fact, who brought the Bulgarian state down to its knees. some women were, who are you to say she wasn't? interestingly he also married a Bulgarian woman. brought the Bulgarian state to its knees? wtf? are you sure about that? are you sure they didn't support and help him out? Also to remember that Bulgaria near that time had its own internal problems, and shortly after that time period it was divided into principalities among a few Bulgarian nobles. Besides, his empire lasted only 24 years....as big as it was, it didn't last, it never even came close to regaining its size.
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 22, 2007 19:21:44 GMT -5
Radovic's map is from Dushan's time (half Bulgarian hahah(not trying to provoke)), which is Serbia's borders at their greatest extent.
modification: the fact that even your historians claim that serbia's largest territory was during Dushan's time also contradicts your claim that serbia controlled that area and was that powerful, since, obviously, serbia in the map u posted is larger than Dushan's Serbia.
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 22, 2007 19:19:50 GMT -5
i have NEVER read any texts supporting that the Serbians had control of that area, or were even a majority at that time frame. I haven't even come across byzantine texts. if you want a map that is proven historically accurate, here: notice where (and who) the western neighbours are. wikipedia source: Krum (Bulgarian: Крум) was ruler of Bulgaria, from sometime after 796, but before 803, to 814 AD. During his reign the Bulgarian territory expanded two times, spreading from the middle Danube to the Dnieper and from Odrin to the Tatra Mountains. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krum_of_Bulgarianow if you notice the fact that the Bulgarian empire bordered the Frank empire and the FACT that the Avar state was no longer in existance during Khan Krum's reign, which lasted till 814, you'll realize that the map you posted of 814 is flawed since it obviously shows an avar state. if you intend to argue that the Serbs controlled all that land after Khan Krum, i would like to inform you that Omurtag expanded the borders. furthermore, by
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 22, 2007 10:02:15 GMT -5
there is no way serbia was that powerful or controlled that area, i think the person who made the map wanted to represent slavs. thats the only thing that makes sense
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 20, 2007 17:49:46 GMT -5
sorry, but don't mean to be an a$$, but, guess who was in control of that land at that time
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 20, 2007 17:42:38 GMT -5
fox news baby
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Post by Kubrat on Oct 10, 2007 14:58:22 GMT -5
Name:Alexander Age: 20 Location: Vancouver Ethnic Background: Bulgarian from Sofia Religious Beliefs: strictly musical Political Views: ...they all suck Interests: soccer, rugby, drinking, etc. Occupation: full time business student, part time restaurant b*tch
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