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Post by Arxileas on Apr 11, 2009 10:51:18 GMT -5
That's the key word promote historical facts unlike wilders with baseless opinions. Well if you were a true decendent of the Illyrians you would know your history very well because you would know right away that the Illyrians were calling the Epirotes Greeks. O.E. Crecas (pl.), early Gmc. borrowing from L. Græci "the Hellenes," from Gk. Grakoi. Aristotle, who was the first to use Graikhos as equivalent to Hellenes ("Meteorologica" I.xiv) wrote that it was the name originally used by Illyrians for the Dorians in Epirus, www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Epirus&searchmode=noneI'll cry from laughing as much as I wish indeed... .
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 10, 2009 0:36:31 GMT -5
Γαλλία - Εγκαίνια έκθεσης «Άθως, Βυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία, Θησαυροί του Αγίου Όρους»της Ολυμπίας Τσίπηρα Με πολύ θερμό τρόπο ο δήμαρχος των Παρισίων Μπερνάρ Ντελανόε, καλωσόρισε σήμερα τον Έλληνα πρωθυπουργό κ. Κώστα Καραμανλή, την υπουργό εξωτερικών κ. Ντορα Μπακογιάννη και τον Οικουμενικό Πατριάρχη Βαρθολομαίο, κατά τη διάρκεια της τελετής των εγκαινίων της έκθεσης «Άθως, Βυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία, Θησαυροί του Αγίου Όρους», στο Μουσείο του Πετί Παλέ. «Κύριε πρωθυπουργέ, αγαπητή κ. Μπακογιάννη, Σεβασμιότατε, να ξέρετε ότι αποτελεί τεράστια τιμή για το Παρίσι η παρουσία σας σήμερα και η μοναδική αυτή έκθεση», είπε ο δήμαρχος, υπογραμμίζοντας το γεγονός ότι η έκθεση του Πετί Παλέ αποτελεί «μια παγκόσμια πρώτη» αφού πολλά πολύτιμα αντικείμενα για πρώτη φορά μεταφέρθηκαν έξω από το Άγιο Όρος. «Από σήμερα - είπε - έχουμε να μοιρασθούμε στο Παρίσι κάτι μοναδικό, που προέρχεται από έναν πολιτισμό που πλούτησε την Ευρώπη και τον κόσμο». Για τον δήμαρχο των Παρισίων, είναι πολύ σημαντική: «στον ταραχώδη 21ο αιώνα που ζούμε, η θέση που δίνουμε στον πολιτισμό, στην μεταβίβαση της γνώσης και στην ομορφιά». Βλέπω αυτήν την έκθεση, είπε, «ως ένα μήνυμα ελπίδας. Όταν οι πολιτισμοί επικοινωνούν μεταξύ τους, όταν υπάρχει ανταλλαγή και συνεργασία ανάμεσα στους πολιτισμούς, τότε είναι σίγουρο ότι θα μπορέσουμε να κτίσουμε από κοινού ένα μέλλον αντάξιο των προγόνων μας». Μετά τον δήμαρχο των Παρισίων τον λόγο πήρε η υπουργός εξωτερικών κα Ντόρα Μπακογιάννη. Η υπουργός υπογράμμισε το γεγονός ότι ανάμεσα στα εκθέματα βρίσκονται «για πρώτη φορά 60 ιερά αντικείμενα και λειτουργικά μοναδικής αξίας, που δεν έφυγαν ποτέ από το Άγιο Όρος και εκτίθενται σήμερα στο κοινό», γεγονός σημαντικό ιδιαίτερα για «το γυναικείο κοινό», για το οποίο η έκθεση αυτή αποτελεί την μοναδική ευκαιρία. Σύμφωνα με την Ελληνίδα υπουργό η επιλογή των αντικειμένων έγινε με βάση την άμεση σχέση τους με τις αρχές της Βυζαντινής Αυτοκρατορίας, καθώς μεγάλος αριθμός αυτών είναι αυτοκρατορικά δώρα. Η Βυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία, είπε, είναι αυτή που ενίσχυσε και διεύρυνε τον ιστορικό ρόλο του Άθω, ως εγγυητή του λειτουργικού και των αξιών της Ελλάδας και του Βυζαντίου. Η υπουργός κατέληξε λέγοντας ότι «οι θησαυροί αυτοί ανήκουν στον ευρωπαϊκό πολιτισμό και αποτελούν αναπόσπαστο κεφάλαιο της ιστορίας της γηραιάς ηπείρου». Αναφερόμενη τέλος στην ιδιαίτερα θετική συνεργασία με το Μουσείο του Πετί Παλέ η υπουργός ανήγγειλε ότι τον Οκτώβριο του 2010 η Αθήνα θα φιλοξενήσει την έκθεση «Παρίσι 1900, αρτ νουβό και μοντερνισμός» σε συνεργασία με την Εθνική Πινακοθήκη. omogeneia.ana-mpa.gr/press.php?id=5867
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Apr 9, 2009 5:19:00 GMT -5
Post by Arxileas on Apr 9, 2009 5:19:00 GMT -5
Don’t know Pyrros all I see is a clown circus show here, a display of disrespect of the Greek legacy of Alexandros.
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 8, 2009 7:12:42 GMT -5
^ Good to see the Australian banks up there.
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 8, 2009 6:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 20:59:08 GMT -5
So far, you stil haven't been able to proove that the Chams were collectively collaborating with the Axis powers, which is pretty difficult to do since it is hard to track the activities of each individual in an entire society. Yet still, you think it is justified to collectively punish an entire segment of Epirus' population? We've prooved it just raise your eyes above, need some reading glasses ? You punished the Greek Epirotes, trying to reverse project your past crimes onto us [/size][/quote] Which predecessors, what are you talking about ? Are you recycling old debates btw the Serbs and forgot to re-edit them perhaps ? You are not well dude...""through false flag"" wtf Anyone who collaborates with Nazi Germany on Greek soil deserved an execution. Albanians like telling tall tales, as effective as a pyramid schemes it seems. .
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 19:36:18 GMT -5
It doesn’t matter what you say Donnie. In the eyes of the international community it’s a dead issue and all crimes are recorded for all to see. Your still making baseless opinions without factual sources. Some Greeks did coloberate and they suffered the same fate as Mussolini did... Mussolini Executed 28th April 1945: The bodies of Benito Mussolini and Clara Petacci, his mistress, hang from the roof of a gasoline station after they had been shot by anti-Fascist forces while attempting to escape to Switzerland. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images) www.jamd.com/image/in-search/Mussolini+hanged+after+ww2/#2g3293985Picture of Mussolini hanging...All fascists around the region suffered the same fate. They all fled, like the chams did to flee from being prosecuted for war crimes. As documented by the United nation Special committee and shown many other nutral sources... Your baseless claims of Greeks taking advantage of this to expel is just that baseless opinions.
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 18:41:00 GMT -5
you should, however, be ashamed of jacking up some else's heritage...romei mongrel! ha! what I'm afraid your one confused person; Constantine decided to found a new Rome, and in AD 324 he moved the capital to the East, to the Greek city Byzantium on the Bosporus. He named the city Constantinople after himself. The empire was still Rome, though, and the inhabitants called themselves Romans or Romei in Greek.www.in2greece.com/english/historymyth/history/general/byzantine.htmThe Byzantium empire is a Greco - Roman empire you knew that right ?
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 18:22:29 GMT -5
^ Yes and is part of our past history and we aren’t insulted by it because we aren’t ashamed.
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 18:09:09 GMT -5
Problem here donnie is. Zervas was acting under the instructions of Allied officers and NOT by the Nazis like you were. So it is the UK then that you accuse of ethnic cleansing ? Zervas of course was directed by Woodhouse to push the Chams out of the area because they were overwhelmingly supporting Nazi German fascists in attacks on Greeks, Slavs, Jews etc in the region as well as anti - Nazi forces like Zervas. Do some reading - research of various reliable sources They document horrific destruction, mass murder etc by the Chams at the time. You base so many baseless opinions without backing them up and you expect to be taken serious We have given you one such source by the United Nations Special committee and this isn't enough for you lol
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 17:27:58 GMT -5
Happy birthday !!!
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 17:20:16 GMT -5
We have already been through this as a factual term used, now that’s for another topic...
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 16:33:58 GMT -5
Dear foreign guest senior mod Donnie. Name is Arxileas. Stop attacking and being personal Donnie to all members in our subforum, take this as a warning and I will delete you if your attacks continue in a personal insultive manner without having being provoked or attacked by others in the first place, attack ideas and not users. Now back to the topic;There is no such cham issue, it is a none existent issue, justice was served. .
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 5, 2009 10:07:13 GMT -5
^ Your true is here; www.hellenicplanet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=507Archives do not lie and we do not negotiate with thief’s of our Hellenic identity. Macedonians were always Greeks and will always be no matter how much you try one cannot distort facts because history has already been written in stone. Tito didn’t take this into account
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 4, 2009 22:51:48 GMT -5
Makes you proud to be a Greek "sniff, sniff"
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 4, 2009 22:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 4, 2009 9:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 4, 2009 9:35:50 GMT -5
karta and arxileas posts the hellenic nature of epirus and the region. It’s perfectly natural to promote ones own culture and history which has achieved so much more then any other nation in history. It is the problem of our neighbours who now live in those ancient Hellenic lands which was Hellenistic as long as time can remember in the parts of what is known South Albania today seems to be very upsetting to these Albanians on here when Greeks or even foreigners mention the Greekness of this region, see it appears to be against their nationalistic agendas for Greater Albania at most times a none existent issue pos up called the "Cham issue". Or you get labelled a nationalist and a propagandist for simply promoting your factual history lol .
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 4, 2009 9:23:00 GMT -5
I ts our Macedonian genes.. We smell from far away the good news.. That's right basili
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 3, 2009 0:04:31 GMT -5
Macedonian Identity "To Be Defined"Skopje | 02 April 2009 | The European Commission has decided to redefine the terms “Macedonian”, “Macedonians” and country code “MK” in its institutional style guide, Erik Meijer, European Parliament Rapporteur for Macedonia, suspects. According to information obtained by Eric Meijer, these terms now in common use are to be replaced with the designation "to be defined", in order to satisfy Greece's objections to the name "Macedonia". The “altered” style guide is not yet available to the public. Meijer was cited by the Macedonian national news agency, MIA, asking the EC whether it takes into account that this only complicates matters by taking the “name” row into new and “very sensitive” fields of national identity that will be “impossible to solve". However, in an interview for local Alfa TV this afternoon Meijer said he got reassured by the EC that this means nothing in practice. “It means the situation will not change” and the terms will remain in use, he said. Athens blocked Skopje last April from NATO entry, objecting that only the Greek northern province has the right to call itself Macedonia. Greece stated that it could block Macedonia's EU accession as well, if it did not change its name. In an EC response to Meijer, MIA reports, EC President Jose Manuel Barroso confirms it is true they used standard names until recently, but that, in the summer of 2008, a decision was taken to make this change. Thus, in the inter institutional style guide compiled by the Office for Official Publications of the European Communities, these terms have been replaced with "to be defined". The commission says all references are strictly in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 817/93. Meijer also expresses concerns about the delaying of the date for opening EU accession talks for Macedonia, despite recent European Parliament recommendations assessing that Greek opposition could continue for years, MIA reported. The country achieved candidate status in 2005, but the EC did not grant an extended recommendation for further progress due to insufficient internal reforms. Long-standing UN-sponsored name talks between Macedonia and Greece have so far been in vain. While Greece insists a composite name for its neighbour should be used by all countries, Macedonia accepts a mutually agreeable name only in correspondence with Greece, since only this country has such problems. Additionally, the talks have in effect ground to a halt, as both countries are currently occupied with domestic elections. www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/17888/
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