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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 15:16:58 GMT -5
An idiot - stuck repeating here on pg3 what was already refuted on pg.2: pigment & height are not INTRA-racially taxonomic but CLINAL, as per Coon (1967/9, 1981) so there is no point bringing up aboriginal aussies or other examples of INTER-racial variation. INTRA-racial variation among Whites depends on soil, diet, altitude & when 1 factor changes, morhology changes in 3 generations. Your dumb, bankrupt & discredited, your worthless: a liar to his own kind who got caught & cant be trusted
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 15:38:10 GMT -5
TO CONCLUDE - Height, hair & eye pigment ARE heritable but ONLY when the organism responds to an environment & diet that regulates such traits, when the environment or diet change, the traits lose their heritable quality within 3 generations
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 16:13:55 GMT -5
What a gedzo. Highdyke just managed to say the same thing, albeit in a more "articulate" fashion, favouring "flatulate" over "fart" or "excrement" instead of "sh!t". Same thing. Coon merely speculated and, while indeed an expert in physical anthropology and ethnology, had no expertise in modern genetics. If the environment dictates people's pigmentation (we are not speaking height here, which indeed is an interaction between environment and genetics) then White Americans would differ significiantly from their brothers across the Atlantic in pigmentation, as would White Australians. This is not the case, infact, Australians and Americans of predominantly Anglo-Celtic descent are still just as much lighter than native Mediterraneans back in Europe as their peers back in England and Ireland are. Schmuck. Height is mostly determined by genetics through heritability. Approx 70% or so is heritability and environment and non genetic factors determine approx 30% especially when looking at deviations from an expected average. ( Predicted height) Skin pigmentation, or color or shade visible on the skin itself, is the result of melanin. Melanin is a type of amino acid which is the foundational structure of DNA. Melanin can appear very dark or 'red' particularly in human skin and this is why we get different 'races.' Most types of melanin ( i.e. skin pigmentation/color) are inherited. Btw, this is also determines things like hair and eye color. Skin color in populations can change over time due to environmental conditions but these changes are slight from generation and generation and are ultimately inherited.
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 16:17:45 GMT -5
Btw, skin color can change rapidly through one or two generations IF 'inter-racial' parents are a factor. But speaking just for the 'intra-racial,' the change and adaptation to environment, particularly with skin pigmentation, is incremental generation to generation.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 16:22:46 GMT -5
F.uck off you dumb cultureless runt, nobody wants your help or POV, leave it to me & the eurochechen. PS Reply #41 refers to INTRA-RACIAL variation only & all statements made by myself are in accordance with Coon's least dated research on the subject matter, which is mostly Still valid today but at odds with his earlier work from the 30s like MoG
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 16:31:17 GMT -5
And here I thought you were capable of at least a semi-intelligent conversation but that knee-jerk rage pounded into you since childhood takes over. I didn't say your reply in #41 was outright wrong but definitely lacks substantive detail. Btw, I am fairly certain I AM more qualified than you to make comments regarding biology or biology related subjects. Trust me, you'll only look like a fool if you try to debate science with me but I offer the challenge.
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 16:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 16:39:50 GMT -5
F.uck off, you're a monolingual, cultureless idiot not a real person & thus you rank below the eurochechens in terms of perfidity, so NO, I'm NOT capable or interested in inteligent dialogue with you,
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 16:46:55 GMT -5
Monolingual? Another blind assumption.
Intelligence isn't necessarily determined by culture. If you had any clue about psychometrics or cognitive science you wouldn't make such misinformed inferences.
To put it bluntly, you know you would get smoked in any substantive debate with me just like you did earlier. This shows lack of integrity in your character.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 16:58:00 GMT -5
You're as bad as donnie: in a thread in BiH Forum 2 months ago, asking how many languages any member spoke, you replied only english, you worthless p.ussy, still havent recovered from being led on, getting used & discarded in our last debate as a proxy to get to the balije
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 16:58:34 GMT -5
Hey highdyke, Coon writes on page 49
11. From the standpoint of theoretical genetics, the Mountain Gheg population forms a (for Europeans) peculiarly closed breeding unit, within which mating proceeds along known rules. Except for the Bosnian invasion a dozen generations before the date of our sample, no new genetic elements of numerical importance can have been added since the first Iron Age settlement. 12. The Bosnians, who were derived from the same population as earlier Gheg immigrants, settled north of the Drin, mostly in Malesia e Madhe. Their descendants have, by and large, remained there.
page 100
16. If we equate the Mountain Ghegs in such a fashion with western Europeans and Americans, we find that they would be comparable to many local populations in western Germany and Austria. They are of the same basic genetic stock, disseminated widely in the Iron Age, from which most northern and western European peoples came.
Take that you stupid Slavo-Avaro-Turko-Bulgar.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 17:05:32 GMT -5
Pilsbardhi, Coon forgets the Slavic invasion of Prevalitania which is not in dispute, you cant quote Coon as if he were the Bible as if he cant be wrong, especialy from a book from the 30s
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Post by servus on Jan 27, 2009 17:22:12 GMT -5
You cant blame the highdyke for not having any social communication skills. Here is what Aadmin said: "HD posts cause of two reasons, one he thinks he is doing some kind of scientific paper".
This guy has serious psychological problems inherent from childhood and possible teenage years. Those problems he is unleashing on this forum.
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 17:22:53 GMT -5
You're as bad as donnie: in a thread in BiH Forum 2 months ago, asking how many languages any member spoke, you replied only english, you worthless p.ussy, still havent recovered from being led on, getting used & discarded in our last debate as a proxy to get to the balije English is my primary language, what does that have to do with anything though? What does knowledge of more than one language have to do with the soundness of an argument, especially if it is not related to knowledge or language? Again, you make no sense. You recall a rather different version of events. You barely addressed any of my arguments. Well, you attempted to but then backed down. It shows dishonesty on your part and it seems you will never admit when you are wrong or at least that you are being irrational. Not surprisingly, that is a psychological issue you have which is deeper than anything this forum can reveal. You choice of words and repeated personal insults already tell much about you and what you must have endured in your own life. In a way I feel sorry for the way you were treated ( possibly by family) growing up but it doesn't excuse your attitude.
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 27, 2009 17:26:16 GMT -5
You cant blame the highdyke for not having any social communication skills. Here is what Aadmin said: "HD posts cause of two reasons, one he thinks he is doing some kind of scientific paper". This guy has serious psychological problems inherent from childhood and possible teenage years. Those problems he is unleashing on this forum. Indeed. It seems he is projecting upon this forum ( on the internet where he can hide his true identity but also be heard) his inner turmoil.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 17:30:24 GMT -5
mos i folni
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 27, 2009 17:32:02 GMT -5
Since I am being quoted let me place the entire quote
"HD posts cause of two reasons, one he thinks he is doing some kind of scientific paper (i do not know much about it to comment one way or another) and two you keep on replying."
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 17:44:14 GMT -5
Lol thanx 4 clarifying & btw transfer this thread to HD's Corner
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 17:48:07 GMT -5
You weak, stupid, Bulgar.
Page 43
Slavic speech had a considerable effect on the Albanian vocabulary. This was not, however, as an important invasion from the standpoint of biological interests as others that followed.
By following invasions he goes into how the Turks had the effect of making some clans go moslem with the effect of changing mating paterns, narrowing genetic flow between clans leading to minor differences in phenotype.
Coon made thousands of observations and measurments on over a thousand highland Albanians and is considered the authority on Gheg anthropology and is a leading world authority on human anthro. His observations are valid as far as you're concerned. Whichever Slav invasion did not show up physically in the Albanians studied, making it meaningless racially you idiot.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 17:52:27 GMT -5
Admin, don't transfer this thread since it is an Albanian topic posted by an Albanian on the Albania forum. Highdyke needs to stop infecting our threads with his inferiority complexes, however much real they are.
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