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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 17:52:54 GMT -5
IdiotIc Pilsbardhi, stop quoting outdated research & take a look at the eurochechen genome & explain why R1a at +50% in Russians, Poles, Ukrainians & Belorussians is at 10% among eurochechens, if no Slavic invasion occured PS aadmin, transfer the thread ASAP
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:02:47 GMT -5
Don't know if the gene you are talking about is even significant or present if whatever degree in whichever population considering you are a fool who effs up everything you attempt. If even valid 10% is low and probably limited to southern Albanians. Then again you are an idiotic Bulgar, Coon's work on Ghegs is solid, and Kosova belongs to its rightfull Albanian masters.
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Post by Duke John on Jan 27, 2009 18:10:43 GMT -5
Why this thread needs to be transfered? It is not opened buy you highduke, so wtf is your problem with this thread? btw how can you prove that Coons study about albanians is outdated? our autochtonity really drives you crazy, get use to it!
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 18:18:08 GMT -5
Well Pissbardhi if you dont know that its not a gene but a subclade of a haplogroup then your as unqualified to debate me as liars Kane & donnie, who like to substitute rhetoric for facts whenever they get caught lying or not knowing enough
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 18:22:07 GMT -5
Dyke Jane, Coon doesnt assert autochtony or Illyrian descent for albanians but a pre-IE Iron Age ethnogenesis and NOWHERE does he assert cultural or linguistic autochtony
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:23:58 GMT -5
You think you are qualified because of something that vague, get a life you retard. There is no debate. What there is is the solid, vigorous, leared, and exhaustive research of a GIANT like Coon, and the drivel being spouted by a peasent Bulgar who is obsessed with his superiors.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:26:02 GMT -5
And Coon actually does assert Illyrian origin in many places in his book, just too much to quote by type, you fool.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 18:28:04 GMT -5
There's that famiiliar rhetoric from a serbophobic know-nothing who got exposed as such lol go console yourself with some lord byron, Coon asserted partial Illyrian assimilation, not direct descent
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:31:29 GMT -5
If Coon's work is just rhetoric then yours is just a silent fart.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 27, 2009 18:34:44 GMT -5
Actually I would only transfer to Hds forum threads started by HD. (This is not one of them therefore no)
This wiol eventually end up in Physical Antro Forum.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:35:16 GMT -5
Page 41 is all about how Ghegs are the descendants of the Illyrians, you fool.
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 18:35:48 GMT -5
I never said Coon's work is rhetoric, you just dont have the background required for qualitative descernment and thus lapse into rhetoric yourself. 2nd Coons POV of alb ethnogenesis cant be guaged from 1 book but the totality of his work
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:45:15 GMT -5
Page 40.
A single conclusion is therefore as legitimate as it is obvious. The mountains of Ghegnia were first effectively populated during the middle centuries of the first millennium before Christ. The pioneers who took over this rugged landscape were Illyrians, whose central territory lay to the northwest. Since they already lived in Bosnia and Montenegro, they were already ajusted to life in this environment.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 18:50:16 GMT -5
page 39
The Gheg language spoken today is basically Illryian
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 18:51:01 GMT -5
BUT the Illyrians of Albania were holocausted in 160 BC. SEE J. Wilkes, The Illyrians 1991, citing Appian. the scanned page is on my website. coon didnt know that. see ORIGIN OF THE ALBANIANS SECTION: ANATOLIAN DARDANIANS
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 19:23:10 GMT -5
You obviously don't have Coon's book you loser. He links us directly with the Illyrians "that close kinsmen of the Glasinac people were the very ones who settled Ghegnia".
Coon also says this about Dardania in the Roman period. Page 41
The country of the Dardanians, which the Romans conquered, was said to be heavily forested up to the area of Nissa...... All of this means that the plain of Old Serbia was forested, there was room for in it for people to expand. It was not a center of population from which large migrations could be initiated.
Haha, Coon knew a lot more than you thought you ignorant Bulgar.
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Post by kapetan on Jan 27, 2009 19:31:39 GMT -5
In Bosnia, we come to the famous site of Glasinac, where a comparatively large series of relatively late Illyrian remains contains again a mixture of types… [Of the Brachcephalic skulls]… Almost all belong to what might be called a modern Dinaric racial type…
`There is no doubt that we are dealing in this instance with a form of Dinaric which anticipates the modern population of Bosnia…`
according to coon and all
but in general the theories from back then is outdated jibba jabba nobody takes seriosly today...
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Post by highduke on Jan 27, 2009 19:34:17 GMT -5
Do you not understand that COON was not aware of the holocaust of the Alb Illyrians mentioned by Appian, or the cognates between alb & cauc languages OR the documentation linking you to the Caucasus? 2nd: alb language, minus slav, latin & turk, cauc loanwords - is largely dardanian, and they were a people who were originaly from Anatolia, see Wilkes 1991, The Illyrians.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 19:34:33 GMT -5
The Albanians Coon found and studied were racially and culturally identical to the Glasinac Illyrians, mentioning that we were specifically still living in the Iron Age at the time.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 27, 2009 19:35:14 GMT -5
Like I said, your documentation and research adds up to a silent fart compared to Coons work, you stupid Bulgar.
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