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Post by whateva on Feb 4, 2009 15:43:28 GMT -5
I propose we abolish the Federation and join RS, The whole country would be called Republika Srpska and then year later according to laws of RS where majority has the absolute rule we elect our own Bosniak president as leader of RS we get the majority in the parliament of RS change the name back to BiH and then we can have a functioning country with no borders inside the borders, without 1000 ministers and all that bullshit.
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Post by tito on Feb 4, 2009 16:32:25 GMT -5
Yet you would never admit your Christian side...sram te bilo tito :-)  |
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Post by tito on Feb 4, 2009 16:37:38 GMT -5
So my idea has always been this: 1) A de-centralized nation with a national/federal govt, two entities, and canton structure. Most of the powers would be spread to the entities and cantons giving them great scope and jurisdiction. We have all of that today.  |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 7:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 8:19:46 GMT -5
Opet iste kozmeticke promjene i legalizacija genocida, onaj Gargamel stvarno nije normalan, hoce da ga opet Haris rasturi ;D
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 8:25:00 GMT -5
Opet iste kozmeticke promjene i legalizacija genocida, onaj Gargamel stvarno nije normalan, hoce da ga opet Haris rasturi ;D If he doesn't split up the federation, I support him, and so do many Bosniaks. Tihic was on some program, and people were voting in, and he beat Haris by a bit. I think Bosniaks are split on this. |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 8:32:09 GMT -5
Opet iste kozmeticke promjene i legalizacija genocida, onaj Gargamel stvarno nije normalan, hoce da ga opet Haris rasturi ;D If he doesn't split up the federation, I support him, and so do many Bosniaks. Tihic was on some program, and people were voting in, and he beat Haris by a bit. I think Bosniaks are split on this. Don’t be silly, the Bosniak people voted Gargamel OUT. And the SDA should have removed him right then in 2006. He lost and he will lose again because this new cetnik plan is even worst then the first one. |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 8:36:55 GMT -5
If he doesn't split up the federation, I support him, and so do many Bosniaks. Tihic was on some program, and people were voting in, and he beat Haris by a bit. I think Bosniaks are split on this. Don’t be silly, the Bosniak people voted Gargamel OUT. And the SDA should have removed him right then in 2006. He lost and he will lose again because this new cetnik plan is even worst then the first one. Why do SDA keep winning more seats in elections? |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 8:43:32 GMT -5
Don’t be silly, the Bosniak people voted Gargamel OUT. And the SDA should have removed him right then in 2006. He lost and he will lose again because this new cetnik plan is even worst then the first one. Why do SDA keep winning more seats in elections? You should know that in Local elections people vote for Local politicians. Gargamel should go back to Samac, I’m sure that the local cetniks will vote for him. |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 8:47:02 GMT -5
Why do SDA keep winning more seats in elections? You should know that in Local elections people vote for Local politicians. Gargamel should go back to Samac, I’m sure that the local cetniks will vote for him. Well, you can say what you want about Tihic, but his son actually leaves in Samac, and so does his whole family. Unlike the patriot Silajdzic who didn't even live in the country prior to his initial run for presidency. |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 8:54:23 GMT -5
You should know that in Local elections people vote for Local politicians. Gargamel should go back to Samac, I’m sure that the local cetniks will vote for him. Well, you can say what you want about Tihic, but his son actually leaves in Samac, and so does his whole family. Because they know that they are now safer among cetniks then the defenders of Bosnia. Anyone who openly acts like a cetnik is safer in RS then FBiH. |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 8:57:36 GMT -5
Well, you can say what you want about Tihic, but his son actually leaves in Samac, and so does his whole family. Because they know that they are now safer among cetniks then the defenders of Bosnia. Anyone who openly acts like a cetnik is safer in RS then FBiH. yeah ok, if any other Bosniak moved back to where they are from in RS..you would say they are doing it because they feel more safe with Serbs? People returning to Srebrenica means they are hardcore cetniks? |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 9:00:55 GMT -5
Because they know that they are now safer among cetniks then the defenders of Bosnia. Anyone who openly acts like a cetnik is safer in RS then FBiH. yeah ok, if any other Bosniak moved back to where they are from in RS..you would say they are doing it because they feel more safe with Serbs? People returning to Srebrenica means they are hardcore cetniks? I clearly explained why members of Tihics family must feel safer in RS then FBiH. The guy acts like a cetnik so it is only natural that he sends his family back to the cetniks in Samac where they can feel more safe. |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 9:27:08 GMT -5
yeah ok, if any other Bosniak moved back to where they are from in RS..you would say they are doing it because they feel more safe with Serbs? People returning to Srebrenica means they are hardcore cetniks? I clearly explained why members of Tihics family must feel safer in RS then FBiH. The guy acts like a cetnik so it is only natural that he sends his family back to the cetniks in Samac where they can feel more safe. Silajdzic fights daily for the status quo. And the status quo includes RS. And he seems to not have concern for BIH getting stronger as soon as possible, so people can actually live there. He doesn't seem concerned that every day that passes, is potentially a worse situation for people living there. Tihic is actually fighting to change the status quo. |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 9:33:39 GMT -5
Tihic is actually fighting to change the status quo. For the worst that is |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 9:44:46 GMT -5
Tihic is actually fighting to change the status quo. For the worst that is The only thing that could make it worse is further division (ie an entity for the Croats) And I would disagree with that. Otherwise, there is only room to improve. Getting one president would be an improvement over having 3. |
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 9:54:55 GMT -5
The guy has actually agreed to have an ethnic census in BiH, that alone should get him arrested since it is probably the single most anti-Bosnian act that anyone has committed since the end of aggression. And not only that but he is openly giving away state property to Dodik. As for the 1 president BS clearly you missed the fact that that the president would still not be allowed to do s**t without both ethnic vice-presidents agreement. Cosmetic changes mean nothing else then legalization of genocide and further aggression on BiH.
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 10:35:55 GMT -5
The guy has actually agreed to have an ethnic census in BiH, that alone should get him arrested since it is probably the single most anti-Bosnian act that anyone has committed since the end of aggression. And not only that but he is openly giving away state property to Dodik. As for the 1 president BS clearly you missed the fact that that the president would still not be allowed to do s**t without both ethnic vice-presidents agreement. Cosmetic changes mean nothing else then legalization of genocide and further aggression on BiH. I am not for cosmetic changes either. But I am for changes that would make BIH function better. So that is how I will judge it. I believe the aprilski paket had just one president, and this is a step down from that. And in regards to the ethnic census. Is an ethnic census really wrong or is wrong because it would take place before people were allowed back in their homes? you see, that is the key. There is no problem with ethnic census as long as its after people go back to their homes. And to go back to their homes, things like RS police and the name of that entity has to change. |
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Post by manijak on Feb 5, 2009 10:39:37 GMT -5
And I would add something else as well.
I like Silajdzic as President. I don't neccesarily mind that. I think he is the only hope to get help from the West to get more interest in our situation. And I think that is why people vote for him.
But in terms of getting results, I think a lot of people are saying, vote for the SDA, get them a lot of seats, because they are the only ones negotiating.
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Post by tito on Feb 5, 2009 10:54:23 GMT -5
And in regards to the ethnic census. Is an ethnic census really wrong or is wrong because it would take place before people were allowed back in their homes? you see, that is the key. Those people are supposed to be allowed back in their homes according to DAYTON, only a cetnik would make new agreement which is worst then the first one. There is no problem with ethnic census as long as its after people go back to their homes. That is probably one of the stupidest thing you have ever said. Bosnia is ruled by the ethnic key and we all know that we cant returned even half of the people that where expelled or killed. So by agreeing to a ethnic census we are not only legalizing the genocide but we are also preparing the ground for another one. Because in case you have forgot this is what that cetniks use to find your home next time they decide to exterminate us:  Only insane people and enemies of BiH would ever again agree to have an ethnic census in BiH. And to go back to their homes, things like RS police and the name of that entity has to change. BS. |
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