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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 22, 2008 6:35:42 GMT -5
To the Greek mods:
Please excuse me as this will be my last response to these bulldust, l sometimes cannot cope listening to Albanian or Vardarian lies!.
"Novi seriously you have not idea about nothing, do you understant what is concept of Nation? and what is State? ...After invasion of Roman first Albanian state was in 1347 and second state was 1444...read history boy."
No, Albania never was a state until 1912, the ottomans helped with the Albanianisation of peoples during their time in the Balkans because they were loyal subjects to the sultan.
"Serbians are not yet Nation you are fake people...Albanians are perfect what should be one Nation."
You are a nation created by the Austro-hungarian empire in 1912 because they extremely feared a serbian state gaining access to the adriatic.....Albania was to serve as a buffer.
"for what rivers, mountains you are talking...? who said your srpski hajduke or burovic?"
I do look:
Bastrice Bezani + Belgrad Belice Belje Belove Belovode Berzeste Bistric Biserka Bistrica Bistrice Blace Bobostice Bodin Bodriste Bordani Borici Borje Borova + Borovjani Bradosnica Bratomira Breska Bresnik Brezdan Brostani Budisa Valjana Valjusa Varvara Veles Veljcan Gora Vernica + Vila Vodica Vojnika Vranista Vranista Vrepska Vulcani Gabrica Glava Gline Golem Golemi + Golik Goloberdo Goljovisti Gorica Goroselj Gostiviste + Grabom Grabova Grabove Grabovice Grabovo + Gradac Gradec Gradiste Gradiskije Grazdani Grazdenik Graliste Gracen Gracani Grace Grozdani Gruda Darda Debrova Desmira Dobra Dobric Dobruna + Dragan Dragavoja Draginje Dragobija Dragostun Dragove Dragus Draci Dracove Drasovice Drenove Drovjani Drugana Dusmani + Dvoran Oeriste Zepa Zupiste Zagora Zagorican Zagradec Zagradi Zagradcani Zapat Zaradiste Zavaljan Zvezda Izviri Izgara Izgoralec Jablanit Janjan Jezerces Jerka Jubica Kamare Kamenica + Kamicani Kamnik + Kapica Karista Kilaziste Klena Klenja Klisari Kovaci Kovaciste + Kovacica Kosina Kosmaci Kosovec Kosovo Kosteni Kostenja Kostican Kotor Kosarista + Kosovica Krajni Krasta Krstac Kula Lepusa Leskova Leskoviku Leskovinu Lesnica Lestice Livadasi Livadi Likova Lisan Lovina Lozani Logavista Lopusa Lubinja Ljivadi Ljubonje + Mali Mucalj Maliseva Malina Mecka Milica Miljusi Mirovna Mocani Moglice Mogra Monastir Negovani Nepravista +Nivice Novasela Novoselo Oblika Osojna Padina Pastani Pepeli Pestani Plana + Plovista Podgora Podgorani Podgori Podgoria Podgradec Pogradec Pojata + Polidani Poposina Porobani Potkozani Prekal Prekali Prenista Prodani Radan Radicina Radimiste Radimniste Rajce + Rahovice Rastan Rec Redi Recit Rodokalj Rovica Sama Sanista Sebista Selca Selec Seleka Selence Selenica + Sepetova Slabinje Slatina + Slova Sopot Sovjani Stani Staravec Stare Starov Starova + Stebilova Stranik Strelca Suha Suhodoli Ternova Topljana Torovica Trasani Trebinje Treske Tresova Trosan Tuceni Ulova Ustinje Cerkovica Cernjeva + Siroka Sistevac Stit Sticeni Sumica
"who said illyrian genes are strong in Croata/Bosnia? give me source or any getenic?...fact have been proved that Albanians have pretty strong Illyrian genes."
no they don't infact where ever the albanians are the illyrian gene is low. There is a gene map that shows the Bosniaks and Croats having the highest percentage!.
"Like Luma said you serbs dont have nothing about Balcan, you were slaves of Byzantines who later occupied our land...you are foreign/Alien people of Balcan."
Your land, pfft, no you are occupying serbian land. You Albanians are really Albanianised undifferential slavs and serbs!.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 7:14:13 GMT -5
Please excuse me as this will be my last response to these bulldust, l sometimes cannot cope listening to Albanian or Vardarian lies!. always you do like this novi because you can't responce and you justificy like crying child. No, Albania never was a state until 1912, the ottomans helped with the Albanianisation of peoples during their time in the Balkans because they were loyal subjects to the sultan. 1) Serbs were never state until 1878 2) Serbs are newcomers/nomadic/slaves and dont have nothing with Balcan. serb in asian language mean Slave. Othomans helped more Serbs after Brankovic allied with them to occupy Albanians and Hungarians..Albanians did alot rezistance againt Othomans unlike serbs, I said before if Skanderbeg and Leke Dukagjini would had not resistance Othomans, today Serbia would called Arberia. You are a nation created by the Austro-hungarian empire in 1912 because they extremely feared a serbian state gaining access to the adriatic.....Albania was to serve as a buffer. I said before go learn what is meaning of Nation...Albanians are nation what should be while serbs are fake. But Serbia who createt?...yourself? "for what rivers, mountains you are talking...? who said your srpski hajduke or burovic?" I do look: Bastrice Bezani + Belgrad Belice Belje Belove Belovode Berzeste Bistric Biserka Bistrica Bistrice Blace Bobostice Bodin Bodriste Bordani Borici Borje Borova + Borovjani Bradosnica Bratomira Breska Bresnik Brezdan Brostani Budisa Valjana Valjusa Varvara Veles Veljcan Gora Vernica + Vila Vodica Vojnika Vranista Vranista Vrepska Vulcani Gabrica Glava Gline Golem Golemi + Golik Goloberdo Goljovisti Gorica Goroselj Gostiviste + Grabom Grabova Grabove Grabovice Grabovo + Gradac Gradec Gradiste Gradiskije Grazdani Grazdenik Graliste Gracen Gracani Grace Grozdani Gruda Darda Debrova Desmira Dobra Dobric Dobruna + Dragan Dragavoja Draginje Dragobija Dragostun Dragove Dragus Draci Dracove Drasovice Drenove Drovjani Drugana Dusmani + Dvoran Oeriste Zepa Zupiste Zagora Zagorican Zagradec Zagradi Zagradcani Zapat Zaradiste Zavaljan Zvezda Izviri Izgara Izgoralec Jablanit Janjan Jezerces Jerka Jubica Kamare Kamenica + Kamicani Kamnik + Kapica Karista Kilaziste Klena Klenja Klisari Kovaci Kovaciste + Kovacica Kosina Kosmaci Kosovec Kosovo Kosteni Kostenja Kostican Kotor Kosarista + Kosovica Krajni Krasta Krstac Kula Lepusa Leskova Leskoviku Leskovinu Lesnica Lestice Livadasi Livadi Likova Lisan Lovina Lozani Logavista Lopusa Lubinja Ljivadi Ljubonje + Mali Mucalj Maliseva Malina Mecka Milica Miljusi Mirovna Mocani Moglice Mogra Monastir Negovani Nepravista +Nivice Novasela Novoselo Oblika Osojna Padina Pastani Pepeli Pestani Plana + Plovista Podgora Podgorani Podgori Podgoria Podgradec Pogradec Pojata + Polidani Poposina Porobani Potkozani Prekal Prekali Prenista Prodani Radan Radicina Radimiste Radimniste Rajce + Rahovice Rastan Rec Redi Recit Rodokalj Rovica Sama Sanista Sebista Selca Selec Seleka Selence Selenica + Sepetova Slabinje Slatina + Slova Sopot Sovjani Stani Staravec Stare Starov Starova + Stebilova Stranik Strelca Suha Suhodoli Ternova Topljana Torovica Trasani Trebinje Treske Tresova Trosan Tuceni Ulova Ustinje Cerkovica Cernjeva + Siroka Sistevac Stit Sticeni Sumica who is author your famous historian pyschoHajduke? ;D, i was responsed you about this issues but you still post same copy-paste like loser. no they don't infact where ever the albanians are the illyrian gene is low. There is a gene map that shows the Bosniaks and Croats having the highest percentage!. in your own vain brain ;D I said before give me Link, Source, Authors? who said just one evidence? "Like Luma said you serbs dont have nothing about Balcan, you were slaves of Byzantines who later occupied our land...you are foreign/Alien people of Balcan." Your land, pfft, no you are occupying serbian land. You Albanians are really Albanianised undifferential slavs and serbs!. Fact is Serbs are just bunch of Iranians/Avars, Vllachs, Slavs, ALbanians (Karagjorgjevic tribes, Pavlajic, Piperi ect)... Albanians lived with clan organization (patriacal) at least 800 years we know who are we...but majority of serbs dont know from which tribes came and who are...guest why? because you have assimilatet others people (after creating fake nation Iranian/Avar with Slavs -- Srpski narod).
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Post by Duke John on Jul 22, 2008 7:31:49 GMT -5
I could give you many sources, this illyrianism is completely wrong. Tell me Luma, the name Albania is what outsiders call you, but you call yourself shqiptar. Serbs used to call their albanianised serbs 'arnuats' and Temperley said the arnauts are the bitterest foes of the serbs. Aaaah, the name Albanoi, weren't they a celtic tribe that inhabited today's albania. Luma, don't forget that the Byzantines mentioned you as a people in the 11th century or 1041. I know that the serbs forefathers are the wends (sorbs) of germany, they are still alive today. The illyrianism is wrong to you, its the main fustration that serbs suffer knowing that they came very late into the balkans, The name Albania is logically used to describe us shqipetars beacause thats what outsiders called my ancestors back in 2 century records, how they were a celtic tribe? ok lets say they were celtic tribe but still outsiders call us with that name and not you which means that your celtic albanian tribe were already in balkans much earlier than your ancestors, you dont seem to understand why we call our selfs Shqipetar and what it means and when it came to use, shqipetars are the same people who use to call their selfs as arbërs/arbanit or as slav neighbours use to call us arbanasi, shqipetars are arbanasi and native epirots and that forms the shqiptar nation and it begins from scanderbeg era,i am very aware when we are mentioned as nation but the fact is that our nation is decendants of native balkans population illyrians and epirotes, at the time when my ancestors were illyrians and epirotes your ancestors were somewhere on the other side of carpathian mountains.
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 8:10:01 GMT -5
Albania and the Albanians are a modern pseudo creation. All Albanians have been brainwashed for nationalistic purposes just like the Skopjians.
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libofsha
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 8:26:51 GMT -5
enuff said!
greek1234 is the truth!
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Kanaris
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This just in>>>> Nobody gives a crap!
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 22, 2008 9:08:16 GMT -5
You guys kill me.
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Post by diurpaneus on Jul 22, 2008 11:20:04 GMT -5
Kastorianos, wir mussen die Partei fragen ob die Wlachen Rumaenen oder Griechen sind.
Alle wissen dass die PARTEI IMMER RECHT HAT!
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 22, 2008 12:19:54 GMT -5
Haha yes surely, thats also why the Partei is there, where it is today.
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Post by c0gnate on Jul 22, 2008 12:22:25 GMT -5
Vlachs are descended form the gods.
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Post by Kassandros on Jul 23, 2008 13:22:55 GMT -5
Diurpaneus, ich werde eine Partei gründen und du wirst nur von mir Befehle erhalten. Mein erster Befehl lautet; Sage 100 mal den Satz: Die Wlachen sind Griechen. Mein zweiter Befehl folgt, sobald ich mir einen ausgedacht habe....
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Post by Kastorianos on Jul 23, 2008 13:32:57 GMT -5
Haha good one. Go Diur say it. ;D
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Post by c0gnate on Jul 23, 2008 17:03:55 GMT -5
Aromanian is definitely not a Romanian dialect. The Aromanian phrase Tse hiį tini, Armîn įa Grek sounds in Romanian Ce esti tu, aroman sau grec. Ts=ce (pron. tshe) hiį (hiy?)=esti tini=tu a=sau These are words belonging to the basic vocabulary and all of them are different from their Romanian counterparts. As one can see even the conjugation of the verb to be differs greatly. Be careful here, Serban. The differences you show are real, but the words are connected through straightforward phonetic and grammatical shifts. Evidently Aromanian and Romanian dialects (including here the dominant, literary, political form of the language) are descended from a common ancestor. This ancestor itself is descended from Latin, but is different from it. The differences between Aromanian and (literary) Romanian are in the the range of the differences between some southern and northern dialects of Italian. Whether something is a dialect or a language is largely a political question.
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Post by diurpaneus on Jul 25, 2008 3:15:42 GMT -5
Haha good one. Go Diur say it. ;D Nö. Die Wlachen sind eine romanischsprachige Volksgruppe: Dakorumanen, Aromunen/Mazedorumanen Istrorumanen Meglenorumanen basilmacedon: I am loyal to my peasants partyKastorianos, do you live in the "Ost"? Did you get to know the good old DDR times?
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Post by serban on Jul 25, 2008 3:45:42 GMT -5
Aromanian is no Romanian dialect. The grammar is different as well as the vocabulary. For instance instead of sunt -(I) am- they say esc They used the perfect simplu instead of perfect compus which is absent from their language. The mai mult ca perfect is formed like in the Western Romance languages: avusesem -(I) had had- is aveam futa (literally aveam fost(a)) The Istro-Romanian is even more influenced by foreign languages than Aromanian. It even has perfective and imperfective verbs like Slavic languages (thanks to Serbo-Croatian influence)
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Post by terroreign on Jul 25, 2008 4:28:39 GMT -5
PrijesDardanian - please dont put piperi or other montenegrin tribes in the same boat as the serbalijes...
Serbs never had tribes, it's an alien concept to them. Their traditional culture is Peasantry...
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