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Post by filomen on Jun 3, 2008 6:19:22 GMT -5
but im curios to know what think about the number of greecs in albania the greeks pop. of this forum and du y relly think that albanian will stay forever a poor pop. so to be sold and denied their identity for money ?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 3, 2008 7:47:16 GMT -5
Funny how you always seem to take the viewpoint of a Turk in nearly every matter. Hmmm... coincidence? I think it is hilarious that you think the U.S is supportive of Albania??? NOBODY IN THE US gives a s**t. 99 percent could not even locate it on a map!!! Not because we are dumb, but there was never a single reason throughout all of history to even bother looking to Albania. If you ask any normal and average American they will be able to tell you zip about Albania. Why??? There is not reason. Nada en especial! Remove your lips from the American d**k. I think most Americans know where Serbia is though...and where Afghanistan is...guess why?! It is not a crime for average Americans not to know Albania, a tiny country in another continent. It is a shame for Greeks (with such a huge history) to compare with Albanians, who were busy with pushing the oppressor from their lands all along! That's what they were doing; they were not usurping other's lands, but they have been doing the most sublime act: trying to free their country! Why should any American know about that? First of all why would anyone care about Serbia? And you are wrong, because Americans did not and still do not know that we bombed Serbia. I am a special case because I am Greek and followed this event. """"""""It is a shame for Greeks (with such a huge history) to compare with Albanians, who were busy with pushing the oppressor from their lands all along! That's what they were doing; they were not usurping other's lands, but they have been doing the most sublime act: trying to free their country!""""""""" I almost laughed at what you wrote, because not ONCE have I ever seen an Albanian take the side of*greek during a Greek Turkish conflict. I can back it up with one of your members statements about how all ALBANIANS take the side of Turks. Coincidence??? Heres what Toskali said. """Thats not a coincidence. I have always supported Turks over Greeks, I dont know an Alb that wouldnt."""" I am sorry but that hardly sounds like the words from an opppressed people. We all know that the Greeks lived under oppression from the Albanians and Turks for 400 years and not the other way around. Ask Hoxha. He will always steer you in the right direction.
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Post by Mimi on Jun 3, 2008 9:34:26 GMT -5
We did not back up Turkey in the past, as it was our enamy back then but time has changed now they are our alley(they have showed their support), its always good to have support when your in a bad situations. none has to feel they are alone(like we did) as none can concure everything ecp when your small and your having all those big countries occipying you and trying to take over your country, not letting you breath and trying to make us disappear, they have tried it so hard to do that but they will never succeed, they did not back then and they sure wont now either. we will survive everything. the albanian people will live on forever like it or not.
You would have to be a messed up albanian to back up Greece over Turkey!!thats its just WRONG for so MANY reasons.
time for us to move on to the next step, build a normal and a stabil life for our people like everyone else. we/they deserve it.
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 4, 2008 23:00:14 GMT -5
Greek parade in Boston America this year.
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Post by Toskaliku on Jun 4, 2008 23:25:43 GMT -5
A whole nation is now terrified.
I agree 100%.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 5, 2008 7:58:22 GMT -5
A whole nation is now terrified. I agree 100%. So you think it is better to back up Turkey??? See that is exactly why your a xxxxxxx albanian. Are you sure your not Turkish? Soulmates? TourkoAlvanoi? ============================ Ela. Let's be more calm. .
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Post by donnie on Jun 5, 2008 8:45:45 GMT -5
A whole nation is now terrified. I agree 100%. So you think it is better to back up Turkey??? See that is exactly why your a xxxxxxx albanian. Are you sure your not Turkish? Soulmates? TourkoAlvanoi? ============================ Ela. Let's be more calm. . Why must you be a "Turk" if you support Turkey over Greece? Are you Kurdish just because you support the PKK and the Kurds over Turkey? Are you Serbian because you support the Serbs over us Albanians in the matter of Kosova?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 5, 2008 8:53:14 GMT -5
Why must you be a "Turk" if you support Turkey over Greece? Are you Kurdish just because you support the PKK and the Kurds over Turkey? Are you Serbian because you support the Serbs over us Albanians in the matter of Kosova? So you think it is better to back up Turkey??? See that is exactly why your a xxxxxxx albanian. Are you sure your not Turkish? Soulmates? TourkoAlvanoi? ============================ Ela. Let's be more calm. . Is it a coincidence that most Albanians always seem to take the same viewpoints as a Turk. Not to mention most are Turkophiles. Why is this? I am starting to believe you guys have some sort of spiritual connection or something.
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Post by donnie on Jun 5, 2008 9:03:36 GMT -5
So you think it is better to back up Turkey??? See that is exactly why your a xxxxxxx albanian. Are you sure your not Turkish? Soulmates? TourkoAlvanoi? ============================ Ela. Let's be more calm. . Is it a coincidence that most Albanians always seem to take the same viewpoints as a Turk. Not to mention most are Turkophiles. Why is this? I am starting to believe you guys have some sort of spiritual connection or something. No you don't. You just want to talk sh-t. It's got nothing to do with "spirituality", rather common sense. It is logical that Albanians support Turkey over Greece. That doesn't have to make us "Turks" any less than it makes you "Serbs" when you support them in Kosova ... or Bosnia for that matter (although in Pyrros' case this might be the truth, since it seems he is more in touch with 'his' Serbian nationalism than his Greek equivalent).
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 5, 2008 9:07:22 GMT -5
Why must you be a "Turk" if you support Turkey over Greece? Are you Kurdish just because you support the PKK and the Kurds over Turkey? Are you Serbian because you support the Serbs over us Albanians in the matter of Kosova? The KLA were once upon a time in the world terrorist list "associated with Bin Laden", the PKK are freedom fighters in their own lands. When America told the KLA to abandon Bin Ladin and the Taliban then they were off the Terrorists list. The case David Hicks sound familiar to you
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Post by donnie on Jun 5, 2008 9:11:58 GMT -5
Why must you be a "Turk" if you support Turkey over Greece? Are you Kurdish just because you support the PKK and the Kurds over Turkey? Are you Serbian because you support the Serbs over us Albanians in the matter of Kosova? The KLA were once upon a time in the world terrorist list "associated with Bin Laden", the PKK are freedom fighters in their own lands. When America told the KLA to abandon Bin Ladin and the Taliban then they were off the Terrorists list. The case David Hicks sound familiar to you PKK is also listed as a "terrorist" organization .. atleast in the KLA's case, this was reversed and our guys were saluted as freedom fighters. But that is besides the issue, which is that you mustn't be a "Turk" if you support Turkey over Greece ... just as you're not a 'Kurd' just because you express your sympathy with a marxist organization that aspires to create an independent Kurdistan.
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Post by Mimi on Jun 5, 2008 9:25:47 GMT -5
NO but isnt it abvious why we support Turkey over Greece? Turkey support us and are there for us. they are friendly and are on our side, they even recognized us despite having problems with kurds and last and not leased they are not serbs best friends ;D its a easy choice.
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Post by whatever on Jun 5, 2008 9:53:56 GMT -5
Hey if you like turkey so much, I think you should migrate there instead of Greece. They will make good turks out of you as they have done so in the past (as well as some Greeks and Bulgars).
I suggest all albanians leave Greece and head for turkey. We will all be happier.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 5, 2008 10:07:16 GMT -5
Yeah funny how these Albanians are immigrating to Greece in record numbers yet they hate Greeks and Greece so much. Or am I being misled by some Turks posing as Albanians in this forum. Walks like a Turk, talks like a Turk, and acts like a Turk, it must be a Turk. I am sorry, but I have trouble reading between the lines. When something resembles a Turk so well, I fail to differentiate.
By the way, you should know better that Greece does not and has not supported Serbia's stance on issues irregardless of the circumstances. Although I would be quite flattered if you called me a Serb, being that they are great people.
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Post by Mimi on Jun 5, 2008 12:56:57 GMT -5
dont tell me that, i dont live in Greece so i am not your problem ;D
well they imigrated to Greece mostly bcz it seemed as the best option back than, they did not think they way we are now they were desperate for jobs so they could fed their family, they were people in need. that did not have anything to do with politics but to make a livin.
try to understand that its natural and logical for us to support Turkey over Greece, Turkey support us as well, they are there for us when we need it. you cant say the same thing for Greece?(in fact greeks hates us as much as serbs if not more) so its really not hard to understand why we have a good relationship with Turkey.
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Post by whatever on Jun 5, 2008 14:57:10 GMT -5
'Try to understand' that it's natural for us to dislike you for the above statement. Albanians for centuries have supported turks (don't try to tell me different). also 'Try to understand' why so many Greeks don't want you in Greece for your criminal ways.
Hey...we may be gay.....but at least we are not thieves, criminals, rapists, murderers, pimps etc
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Post by Mimi on Jun 5, 2008 17:29:45 GMT -5
NO i am not gonna argue with you about that, i could care less what greeks thinks about us, we know our own history you dont have to tell us that, it does not matter what you say.
and we dont care that greek dislike us either(we never expect you to like us, i never asked you to), esp me, i live in sweden i have nothing to do with you its like OK whatever who are you again.
hey i did not say anything bad about Greece/greeks and your trying to provoke me but i am not gonna get into that now, we have been there before, we have talked about this so i am not gonna repeat myself again. i am gonna be a better person and let it be, i am not gonna insulting you/your people back, its a waste of time anyway, nothing good comes out of it.
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Post by whatever on Jun 5, 2008 18:29:02 GMT -5
mimi, this was directed toward all of the alb members in here. I think you have all made gay and middle-east statements in here including you. Suck it up like a good girl.
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Post by Mimi on Jun 5, 2008 19:55:59 GMT -5
yeah but this thread was not about that, cant we discuss at leased sometimes without calling each other names?
i admitt i did make that comment but only bcz i was being provoked he got me mad and wanted to give it back but i did not insult your intire nation though. i have tried not to let anyone provoke me as i have not been that rough to greeks, i havent been that bad i have hardly said anything bad about greeks.
things were said about albanians also, a lot of bad things and then albs gives back and then the greeks fires back, like a bad circle but i rather not hate anyone though but its not easy to control yourself efter everything you read in here.
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 5, 2008 20:51:39 GMT -5
By memory.
Just heard on the radio, that Greece has informed the European Union that it cannot take any more immigrants and that due to economies being affected by possibly a world recession, has no choice but to start to possibly deporting these illegal Albanian immigrants who take up the jobs of the real Greek citizens.
The spokesman stated we take the needs of the Greeks citizens into consideration FIRST.
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