|
Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 9, 2008 1:52:47 GMT -5
Greek language is the richest language in the world with 5,000,000 million words Ðëïõóéüôåñç óôïí êüóìï ç åëëçíéêÞ ìå 5.000.000 ëÝîåéò »»» Ôï ÊÝíôñï Ìáêåäïíéêþí Óðïõäþí óôï ðëáßóéï ôùí åïñôáóìþí ôùí Ôñéþí Éåñáñ÷þí äéïñãÜíùóå ðñéí áðü ëßãåò çìÝñåò äéÜëåîç ìå èÝìá ôç óçìáóßá ôçò åëëçíéêÞò ãëþóóáò êáé ôïõ áëöáâÞôïõ ãéá ôç äéáôÞñçóç ôçò ðïëéôéóìéêÞò êëçñïíïìéÜò. Ïé êßíäõíïé, ðïõ åãêõìïíïýí áðü ôçí ÅõñùðáúêÞ Åíùóç, êáèþò ðïëëïß áêáäçìáúêïß ðáñáôçñïýí ðùò ç åëëçíéêÞ ãëþóóá áëëïéþíåôáé óçìáíôéêÜ ìÝóá áðü äéÜöïñåò äéáäéêáóßåò, üðùò ç ÷ñçóéìïðïßçóç ëáôéíéêþí ÷áñáêôÞñùí óôéò çëåêôñïíéêÝò áëëçëïãñáößåò, ç êáôÜñãçóç ôùí ôüíùí, ç ðåñßðôùóç êáôÜñãçóçò ôùí öùíçÝíôùí êáé ç ãåíéêüôåñç ÷ñÞóç ôïõ “é” ãéá ôçí áðëïýóôåõóç ôçò ãñáöÞò, Þôáí ôï êýñéï óçìåßï áíáöïñÜò óôç äéÜëåîç. Óýìöùíá ìå ôçí ïìïãåíåéáêÞ åöçìåñßäá “ÐñùéíÞ” ôçò ÍÝáò Õüñêçò óôçí ïìéëßá ôçò ç ê.ÂÜãéá Êáñáíôéíßäç, êëéíéêÞ øõ÷ïëüãïò, ðáéäïøõ÷ïëüãïò êáé äéåèíÞò åðéóôÞìùí ôçò áñ÷áßáò åëëçíéêÞò öéëïóïößáò, Ýêñïõóå ôïí êþäùíá ôïõ êéíäýíïõ ëÝãïíôáò ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêÜ ðùò «áí ï Eëëçíáò èÝëåé íá áíáäåßîåé îáíÜ ôéò öõëåôéêÝò ôïõ áñåôÝò, ðñÝðåé íá ìÜèåé ôï ðáñåëèüí ôïõ êáé ôç äéêÞ ôïõ ðñïúóôïñßá. Ï ëáüò ôçò Ýñåõíáò êáé ôïõ óôï÷áóìïý Ý÷åé õðï÷ñÝùóç íá ãíùñßóåé êáé íá ðåñéóþóåé ôïí ðïëéôéóìéêü ãßãáíôá ôùí ðñïãüíùí ôïõ êáé ðÜíù áð` üëá ôç ãëþóóá ôïõ». Ç ïìéëÞôñéá ðáñïõóßáóå éäÝåò êáé åñåõíçôéêÜ óôïé÷åßá ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôç óçìáóßá ôçò åëëçíéêÞò ãëþóóáò êáé êÜíïíôáò áíáëõôéêÞ áíáöïñÜ óôç äçìéïõñãßá ôïõ áëöÜâçôïõ êáé ôç óõãêåêñéìÝíç óçìáóßá ôïõ êÜèå óõìâüëïõ/ãñÜììáôïò, ôïíßæïíôáò üôé åßíáé ç ðëïõóéüôåñç ôïõ êüóìïõ ìå 5.000.000 ëÝîåéò êáé 70.000.000 ëåîéêïýò ôýðïõò, üðùò êáôáãñÜöôçêå óôï âéâëßï Guinness ôï 1990, åíþ ç áããëéêÞ Ý÷åé ìüíï 490.000 ëÝîåéò. Ôüíéóå äå ðùò üôáí áãíïåßôáé ç ó÷Ýóç ôçò áëöáâÞôïõ ìÝóá óôç ãëþóóá, ÷Üíåôáé ôï ðñáãìáôéêü íüçìá êáé ç âáóéêÞ åíÝñãåéá ôéò ëÝîçò, åöüóïí ôá ãñÜììáôá óõìâïëßæïõí óõãêåêñéìÝíåò éäéüôçôåò. «Ç åëëçíéêÞ ãëþóóá åßíáé ç ôñïöüò êáé ç âÜóç üëùí ôùí åõñùðáúêþí ãëùóóþí ìå ëÝîåéò ðïõ êáôÝ÷ïõí áðåñßãñáðôï ïðôéêü-ç÷çôéêü åííïéïëïãéêü êÜëïò. Ç ãëþóóá åíüò ëáïý åêöñÜæåé ôçí åðéêïéíùíßá ôïõ êáé ôç äéáëïãéêÞ ôïõ. Åßíáé áäéáíüçôï ìßá ãëþóóá, ðïõ ïìéëåßôáé ðÜíù áðü 5.000 ÷ñüíéá, íá îå÷íéÝôáé, íá ðáñáãêùíßæåôáé êáé íá õößóôáôáé ðüëåìï» ôüíéóå ìåôáîý Üëëùí ç ê. Êáñáíôéíßäç. Óôï ðëáßóéï ôçò ðñïóðÜèåéáò íá åðïõëùèåß ôï êáßñéï ðëÞãìá êáôÜ ôïõ åëëçíéêïý ðïëéôéóìïý ðïõ åêöñÜæåôáé ìå ãñáðôÜ êåßìåíá, ôï ÊÝíôñï Ìáêåäïíéêþí Óðïõäþí èá äéåõñýíåéò ôéò ðñïóðÜèåéåò ôïõ ìå ìéá óåéñÜ äéáëÝîåùí óå ðáíåðéóôçìéáêÜ êÝíôñá ôçò ÍÝáò Õüñêçò, ìå óêïðü ôçí åíçìÝñùóç áõôþí ðïõ äéäÜóêïõí ìáèÞìáôá óõíõöáóìÝíá ìå ôïí åëëçíéêü ðïëéôéóìü, åëðßæïíôáò íá ðåñéïñßóïõí ôçí ðáñáðëçñïöüñçóç êáé ôçí çìéìÜèåéá.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 9:52:58 GMT -5
I beg to differ!
It is generally recognized that of the 6,912 languages and dialects of the world, English has the most words. French for instance has less than 100,000 and German 200,000.
English has 500,000 words cataloged and half a million more awaiting cataloging, some authorities place the estimated total in the millions.
English is officially spoken in: Anguilla, Antigua, Bahamas, Barbados, Belau, Bermuda, Botswana, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Antigua, Australia, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, Bhutan, Botswana, British Virgin Islands, Brunei, Cameroon, Cook Islands, Dominica, Ethiopia, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Gambia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guam, Guyana, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Jamaica, Jersey, Kenya, Kiribati, Lesotho, Liberia, Malawi, Malaysia, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritius, Micronesia, Midway Islands, Montserrat, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, New Zealand, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Pitcairn, Puerto Rico, Samoa, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sri Lanka, St Helena, St Kitts-Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland, Tokelau, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, US Virgin Islands, Uganda, United Kingdom, United States, Vanuatu, Wake Island, Western Samoa, Zambia, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
The number of people believed to speak English as a second language is around 375 million.
More than 750 million people speak English as a foreign language.
More than a billion people are in the process of learning the English language.
One out of every five people on earth can speak English to some level of competence.
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 9:57:52 GMT -5
stratige
you have to stop making all this effort to diss anything Greek around you. here is a challenge: give us a source stating what you just wrote and then we are talking.
a hint "One out of every five people on earth can speak English to some level of competence."
this makes it less popular than chinese where 1 out of 3 speaks chinese........
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 10:07:34 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 10:21:54 GMT -5
ooops you got busted.
thats what happens when you do not read what you paste......
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 10:24:42 GMT -5
English is the medium for 80% of the information stored in the world's computers?
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 10:26:27 GMT -5
English is the main language used throughout the world on the internet.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 10:31:26 GMT -5
ooops you got busted. thats what happens when you do not read what you paste...... I read very well. So there are more Greek words than English. So f..in' what? My point is that the original post provided a very inaccurate number of words in the Greek language. For Greekness sake, why don't you try having a real discussion instead of hiding your inabilities with unfounded accusations? If you can not engage in meaningful discussion, then take your trolling ass out of here.
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 10:36:40 GMT -5
heheh stratige
you got busted and you know it. you stated without blinking that "English has the most words" and you disproved it with your next posting.
about computers tells that to microsoft that are looking into the Greek language for new sourse code since the word types with the english language are quite limited for fast computers.
read well before you paste
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 10:38:20 GMT -5
if this was your point then you should be more careful. Because when you "beg to differ" means that you are going to tell us the exact opposite.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 11:06:00 GMT -5
No. "Beg to differ" meant that I did not agree with something. I do not agree with the Greek language having 5 million words. That was my point. I did tell you almost the opposite. That the Greek language has 4.4 million less words!!!!.
Yes, the Greek language has over 600,000 words and the English language 500,000, but that was not my point. It was your point and you made that point seem very important when it amounts to squat. Who cares if the Greek language has more words than the English? It is irrelevant to this thread.
Stay focused, man! The thread states that the Greek language has over 5 million words. I responded to indicate that it is the English language that has the most words. I did not post this to "diss" anything, but only to provide more accurate information.
Yes, you are right. There are more Greek words than English. But there are 500,000 english words waiting to be catalogized. So, sooner or later, the English language WILL have more words than Greek. I say this only because it seems very important to you.
We all make errors in our posts. But you seem to thrive on these mistakes so you can use it to slam others. I am sorry that I let you down and made an error, but I am human. I am also the one trying to have a decent discussion with someone (you) that can not. I must be mad to try and have a discussion with someone that tends to divert from the topic to slam someone. I will have to remedy that.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 11:50:27 GMT -5
Kartadolofonos, would you provide us with a link to your original post? For many of us, it is in error to make a claim that ANY LANGUAGE has 5 million words.
I will agree that the Greek language has about 600,000 words, but not 5 million.
Does your post actually indicate a book or correspondence of some sort that has 5 million words of Greek text within it?
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 12:43:28 GMT -5
stratige I am not kart but a simple search gives www.igogreece.com/en/GreeceReviews.asp?revCateg=4&id=31where it is stated: The attributes of the Greek language prompted University of Irvine California to undertake this huge program in order to be able to use the Greek language's wealth. A huge database has been constructed, consisting of 90 million verbal types of the Greek language. In comparison the English language has in total 490.000 words and 300.000 technical terms. This is hardly 1% of the Greek language. The professors in charge of the program estimate that the Greek words will surpass 90 million, against 9 millions words of the Latin. The interest for Greek resulted from the ascertainment of scientists of information technology and computers that the advanced computers of the future will accept as a "meaningful" language only Greek. All the other languages are characterized as "manufactured".any comments?
|
|
|
Post by albanesehoney on Jan 9, 2008 13:02:38 GMT -5
The Number of Words in the English Language: 995,116 Estimated as of Monday, December 11, 2007 11:16 am Pacific www.languagemonitor.com/wst_page7.htmlHere's the total count for the English language.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 14:16:54 GMT -5
Yes, indeed. I get the same number, Albanese Honey.
So I was right the first time. English has more words than the Greek language. And see how fast that slowdent jumps on the "slam him" bandwagon?
Again, 5 million words for the Greek language (or any language for that matter), is preposterous.
But English will be the first to reach 1,000,000 words. Bravo.
Thanks for that information, Albanese Honey.
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 14:22:21 GMT -5
stratige I am not kart but a simple search gives www.igogreece.com/en/GreeceReviews.asp?revCateg=4&id=31where it is stated: The attributes of the Greek language prompted University of Irvine California to undertake this huge program in order to be able to use the Greek language's wealth. A huge database has been constructed, consisting of 90 million verbal types of the Greek language. In comparison the English language has in total 490.000 words and 300.000 technical terms. This is hardly 1% of the Greek language. The professors in charge of the program estimate that the Greek words will surpass 90 million, against 9 millions words of the Latin. The interest for Greek resulted from the ascertainment of scientists of information technology and computers that the advanced computers of the future will accept as a "meaningful" language only Greek. All the other languages are characterized as "manufactured".any comments? I have one Greek word for that: ìáëáêßåò Verbal types, words and technical terms are three different things, in which you can not compare one to the other. All you need to do is define verbal types and you will see what I mean. Again, μαλακίες!!!!
|
|
|
Post by meltdown711 on Jan 9, 2008 14:22:47 GMT -5
Actually, its not possible to measure the number of possible english words since there are many ideas and items that combine to words into a single -- new -- meaning. "Hot" and "Dog", but is "hotdog" a word? There hundreds of similar examples.
|
|
|
Post by slowdent on Jan 9, 2008 14:28:50 GMT -5
Mr Ephialtes
If you got issues, sort them out with the people owning the site. I am just the messenger
In the meantime, a Greek expression that suits you right now is: Κάνε γαργάρα
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 14:29:32 GMT -5
The definition of "word" is a meaningful unit of language sounds: a meaningful sound or combination of sounds that is a unit of language or its representation in a text.
"hotdog" is a word, as is "hot" and "dog".
|
|
|
Post by greekslav on Jan 9, 2008 14:31:41 GMT -5
Mr Ephialtes If you got issues, sort them out with the people owning the site. I am just the messenger In the meantime, a Greek expression that suits you right now is: Κάνε γαργάρα I see again that you simply can not engage in discussion. I guess that will always be with you. Please, get into the discussion instead of coming up with excuses. I am done with you.
|
|