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Post by greekslav on Jan 10, 2008 0:28:19 GMT -5
Actually, Alexander was taking on the Persian culture, learning the language and how to dress Persian. His Macedonian troops were not pleased.
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 0:28:41 GMT -5
Good Morning, Luma. I know that "Checkmate" comes from Farsi and means "The King is dead". We use it in chess.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 10, 2008 0:31:21 GMT -5
as far as how heavy was Greek influence on Rome lets look at Greco-Roman relations
Greeks had settled in Southern Italy and Sicily since the 8th century BC. In this way, Italian tribes came into contact with Greek culture very early on and were influenced by it. The alphabet, weights and measures, coinage, many gods and cults (see interpretatio Romana) as well as the building of temples were derived from the Greeks.
The Romans came into contact with Greek culture a second time during the conquest of Greece and the "Hellenistic countries" (countries that had been marked by Greek culture and language) in the 2nd and 1st centuries BC. The Romans, who had defeated Carthage but were still a society of peasants, saw in Hellenistic cities that daily life could be more comfortable than theirs. Formerly sparsely-ornamented houses acquired columns, statues, mosaics on the floors, tapestries and paintings on the walls. One didn't have dinner while sitting anymore, but while reclining, according to Greek custom.
The Romans gained from the Greek influence in other areas: trade, banking, administration, art, literature, philosophy and natural science. In the last century BC it was a must for every rich young man to study in Athens or Rhodes and perfect their knowledge of rhetoric at the large schools of philosophy. It was also a must to speak Greek as well as one's mother tongue in Rome.
There were some who resisted this Greek influence on every aspect of life. For example, Cato the Elder prophesied Rome's demise; he considered everything Greek to be suspect; he even mistrusted Greek doctors, claiming that they only wanted to poison Romans.
Indeed some Greeks might have had every reason to hate the Romans, who had devastated their home, robbed temples and public buildings, decimated the population and brought many Greeks to Rome as slaves. Aemilius Paulus, the victor of the Battle of Pydna in Greece in 168 BC, is said to have sold 150,000 Greeks to Rome as slaves all by himself.
In the imperial age, these events were in the distant past. Romans matched the Greeks in terms of culture, partly because of the Greeks who voluntarily or involuntarily lived in Rome. Greek cities like Ephesus or Athens flourished during the long era of peace (Pax Romana) more than ever. Because of the general prosperity, there was no revolt against Roman rule; quite to the contrary, it was seen as a positive thing. As for the Greek slaves, that had been common amongst Greek cities already. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Roman_relations
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 10, 2008 0:36:01 GMT -5
Greek influence on Rome
It is likely that the Romans first came in contact with Greek civilization through the Greek city-states in southern Italy and in Sicily (both of which formed Magna Graecia — "Greater Greece"). These colonies had been established as a result of Greek expansion that took place in these two areas beginning in the eighth century BC. There is a remarkable commonality between the world of classical Athens and the classical world of Magna Graecia. As proof of this, one need look no further than the Greek temples in Akragas and Silinus in Sicily and the Parthenon of Athens to see that they partake of the same style of architecture at virtually the same level of architectural refinement. Thucydides documents the substantial political and military contacts that the Greek city-states of Sicily had with Sparta and Athens during the Peloponnesian War, and how the Syracusans allied with Sparta were able to defeat the military forces of Athens as they laid siege to Syracuse.
This, inasmuch as trading, as well as the mere day to day interaction between peoples of different cultures, provided opportunities for the Romans to gain exposure to Greek culture, literature, architecture, political and philosophical ideas, religious beliefs and traditions. There was a great sharing of ideas and culture among the peoples of the Mediterranean Sea while Rome was developing into the dominant power in the area.
The Latin alphabet was certainly influenced by the Greek alphabet, and the Latin language itself contains many words of Greek origin. Latin literature was also influenced by the Greeks as well. Early Latin plays were sometimes translations of Greek plays, and different types of poetry often were modeled after their counterparts, such as Virgil's Aeneid on the Homeric Epics. It was not uncommon for wealthy Romans to send their sons to Greece for the purpose of study, most notably in Athens. This Roman passion of Hellenic culture would increase over time.
Greek and Latin became the lingua franca of the eastern half of the Mediterranean area. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic#Greek_influence_on_Rome
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Post by Teuta1975 on Jan 10, 2008 0:36:58 GMT -5
Thank you. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 10, 2008 1:51:08 GMT -5
SlavoBulgarian I'm sorry your right it's Bulgarian. One of many on the FYROMian propaganda machine's pay-role is Vasil Ilyov. Vasil Ilyov has claimed to have deciphered the markings (that according to him, represent the Bulgarian dialect spoken in FYROM..)on a wooden tablet that was found at the archeologic site of Dispilio at Kastoria and dated by the method of C14 at the 'Dimokritos' research center to 5260 BC. See hereHere Slav it was in page 2 of this topic, have a look there is even a picture of it. And have a look at your countries claims to itYou still haven't removed your offending signature, FYROM is no Macedonia. When Greek members have asked you to remove it yet you ignore with disrespect. Talk about Trolling without providing sources hypocrite and instigator
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 10, 2008 1:57:06 GMT -5
Ajax, do you really believe I visit those fanatical nationalistic ROM sites? Yes that's why you were banned from www.macedoniaonthweb.com for posting such propaganda material from FYROM sites, you got caught. I must admit you were insulted unfairly though. But given your actions on here I can see the reasons as to why you got banned
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Post by Duke John on Jan 10, 2008 2:09:07 GMT -5
Greek influence of Greek Persia Alexander the Great brought the Greek culture and the high Greek civilization i do not understand what you mean with all that, and what is "Greek Persia"?
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 10, 2008 2:30:54 GMT -5
The most important lexical influence on Latin was that of Greek.... an that is still spoken, and the direct or indirect influence of its alphabet, lexicon, syntax, and literature has been and continues to be immense..
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 2:55:27 GMT -5
stratige
Decent discussion of Stratigos ephialtes
You are the on attacking once you have been proven wrong. Why should I go? I am still here waiting to debate. If you can.
P.S. you behavior is so typical: when the going gets hard the instigator gets going. we have seen that so many times....
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 3:09:04 GMT -5
What does the glory of ancient Greece have to do with the Kurd-Armenian-Slavic-Albanian-Georgian-Syrian people who have maintained an old dialect of Greek and whom now refer to themselves as Greeks? Just curious.
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 5:02:27 GMT -5
Hello Anittas
Greek richest language in the world
how are you? I was just hoping that an experienced member like you could stay in topic.....
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 5:05:28 GMT -5
Hello Anittas Greek richest language in the world how are you? I was just hoping that an experienced member like you could stay in topic..... The topic is not about linguistic research, but about Greeks bragging about their language and putting down other nations. And in response...
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 5:13:01 GMT -5
Greek language is the richest language in the world with 5,000,000 million words
that is the topic. nobody is bragging. Instead I see certain people stating the contrary without evidence.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 10, 2008 5:39:36 GMT -5
I found aadmins contribution to this topic fascinating....if greek had influence on latin and then latin influenced english, in reality that 6% of influence of greek for english should be way higher.
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 5:51:08 GMT -5
Greek language is the richest language in the world with 5,000,000 million words that is the topic. nobody is bragging. Instead I see certain people stating the contrary without evidence. No language has reached over 1 million words, as some of the posters here have showed us. The Greeks xxxxxxxxxx that they take into account the various "verbal types." LOL! Buta Rum. ======================= Easy with the choice of words.
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 6:20:56 GMT -5
Annitas if you have a problem with that talk to the ppl that set up this www.igogreece.com/en/GreeceReviews.asp?revCateg=4&id=31or the University of California. the difference between you and me is that I do not write sth just to create impressions. There has to be evidence. And to prove you that you've been had once more: Could you please provide us with a link supporting your claim "No language has reached over 1 million words"?
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 8:05:51 GMT -5
Sorry, but I refuse to engage in serious debates in threads started by Karta. If the guy would at least learn a fraction of English words, out of the total words that the Greek language possesses over, this forum would feel blessed.
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Post by grksdied4you on Jan 10, 2008 8:10:38 GMT -5
We do not annoy we simply show up your fallacies in syllogistic reasoning... You are a moron and should be banned. You in almost every post use some kind of instigatory remark. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED.
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 8:11:34 GMT -5
once again Annitas
do not refuge to excuses. Write the truth: You cannot debate. You have nothing.
Karta pasted sth in Greek and he did not participate in the debate that followed. So......
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