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Post by lozonjare on Dec 13, 2008 16:20:48 GMT -5
LOL, hes probably the MOST BIASed Albanian here. What Rinia says is pretty much true. Here's how it works in Albania calling someone a "greek" in south albania is an insult just like in north albania you get called a "serb" as an insult. how am I biased? hopp off my dick, why would calling someone a Greek be an insult specifically in southern Albania? taht makes no f**king sense and i could give two s**ts less what is an insult in northern Albania because i dont know and dont care Grekes dont care either...ive heard insults about Greeks, never "si Grek" though the attention w**re made that up...but ive heard insults about Cams too and about maloket like u so waht? should i put u all in one basket now? by ur and Ali Toskut logic? guess waht the rest of the world doesnt care Why would it be an insult? Hmmmm gee I dont know, possibly for the same reason it's an insult when you call an Alb a Serb or a Turk. Essentially, you are calling someone a sellout/traitor. Whats next, your going tell us that the word "kaur" is used as a compliment? As for the fact that your biased, its blatantly obvious. Just look at what you write! Oh I dont conform to your ideas so Im automatically a "maloke", what a cliche... Your always writing some BS like "Korcars are perfect and superior to everyone blah blah blah" and "Northern Albanians are all ignorant", Im sorry, thats not being biased?
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 13, 2008 16:23:10 GMT -5
Ill drink at a caffee with anyone to have a convo, so long as they are prepared to deal with the opinions of a Turkophil Albo with significant nationalist views...
And Lozonjare... Korcars are pissed off because their Korca is on the verge of death... all the intellectuals are gone, the youth, gone...
And guess who will have to repopulate it
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Post by lozonjare on Dec 13, 2008 16:24:40 GMT -5
All I asked is that people like Patrinos stop bothering us as if we have something to apologize for or to be sad about. Don't bother.... I'm just surprised why a long established country like Albania has to act like newguys like Skopia, who base their existence on falsified myth-history... Ok,Greece too has national-myths, but we discuss them, we know them. Albanians, I suppose due to Hoxhocracy, think like they own the historical truth that they've kept it inside their borders for about 50 years and now that Albania opened its borders some anti-albanians just spread propaganda... What falsified nation-myths does Albania base itself on? Albania, if anything, is the most tolerant of the Balkan nations. I also love how you mention Enver Hoxha, who didn't care about any of this.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 13, 2008 16:28:59 GMT -5
I didnt know there arent other than political conversations...
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 16:32:56 GMT -5
Oh soooo scared
I dont like to start again this race "competition" because i am not that much in the good mood.If i will start to drink some raki maby. ..but according to the pics that you have shown here yes you are a pure Arian race ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 13, 2008 16:34:48 GMT -5
Mendor how can you have the audacity to comment others appearance if you have never ever posted a pic of yourself...I dont get it...I would never do that...your parents didnt educate you well..
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 16:39:29 GMT -5
Melty you are not the one to judge me because you grew up 21 years in america and me 27 in Albania.You learned albanian here in internet 3 years ago and i new english and greek since 21 years ago.
Ps:I dont live in greec since 7 years.
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 13, 2008 16:42:14 GMT -5
What falsified nation-myths does Albania base itself on? Albania, if anything, is the most tolerant of the Balkan nations. I also love how you mention Enver Hoxha, who didn't care about any of this. Which are your national myths? Pelasgoillyrian-indigenous stuff.(I agree with the Illyrian theory but i believe that any pelasgomalakies are clearly due to political-nationalist goals. I believe that you have no idea about your real medieval history...slavic and bulgarian migration, history of the religion in your area. Apotheosis of the Kastrioti's age history. Extreme ideas about the extent of Arvanites' real population, contribution to Greek history their view against their language-relatives. Lack of knowledge about the real role of Albanians during Ottoman period, and your contribution to the Ottoman state, and your position against Greeks the same period. Total false ideas about your stance towards 20th century's musafirides in Balkans,Italians and Germans. etc etc etc. PS. Btw I think that only Melty has knowledge about Albanian history,most of the Albos know only what they read on the internet. Mendor its your turn to post your photo, what are you afraid of? Ela more Liapi, min ntrepesai!
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 13, 2008 16:59:56 GMT -5
Lozonjare I'm sorry i was rude and yet ur surprisinegly nice i have nothing against northerners but i still think Korcars are superior lol. btw were im from kaur is an insult for Orthodox Albanians who say theyre Greek ;D Toskali ur right the "elite" Korcars have mostly left and the ones populating it are the villagers of Boboshtica, Bilishti, Maliq, Dardha etc in other words Korcar villagers. yes some of us city folks are somewht pissed about this ps: i have to chuckle because i know u think thyre being replaced by others, but sorry to burst ur bubble, its just Korcar villagers who are taking over the city now that the intellectuals are gonne. Mendor bravo i owe nje gode raki ;D Moraitis ur a bigger tool than Toskaliu if u think he has more knowledge of Albanian history than me and Mendor, he said himself hes a Turkofil and all his knowledge comes from the internet not the other way around, he doesnt even speak Albanian.
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 17:00:45 GMT -5
Here Moraiti i tryed to find the darkest foto of mine to prove mijn non Polish origine ;D In Greec summer 2000
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 13, 2008 17:07:01 GMT -5
Ti veshia einai auta re? ;D
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 13, 2008 17:11:26 GMT -5
Pianeis Nova? ;D
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 17:12:19 GMT -5
Ohi mega ;Etsi fenet sti fotografia
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 13, 2008 17:15:57 GMT -5
Gia patates isouna?
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 17:17:05 GMT -5
Ohi gia elies 10 hronia elies mazeva ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 13, 2008 17:17:16 GMT -5
Ahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 13, 2008 17:19:45 GMT -5
Poso itan to merokamato? IKA? ;D
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Post by lozonjare on Dec 13, 2008 17:20:01 GMT -5
What falsified nation-myths does Albania base itself on? Albania, if anything, is the most tolerant of the Balkan nations. I also love how you mention Enver Hoxha, who didn't care about any of this. Which are your national myths? Pelasgoillyrian-indigenous stuff.(I agree with the Illyrian theory but i believe that any pelasgomalakies are clearly due to political-nationalist goals. I believe that you have no idea about your real medieval history...slavic and bulgarian migration, history of the religion in your area. Apotheosis of the Kastrioti's age history. Extreme ideas about the extent of Arvanites' real population, contribution to Greek history their view against their language-relatives. Lack of knowledge about the real role of Albanians during Ottoman period, and your contribution to the Ottoman state, and your position against Greeks the same period. Total false ideas about your stance towards 20th century's musafirides in Balkans,Italians and Germans. etc etc etc. PS. Btw I think that only Melty has knowledge about Albanian history, the most know only what they read on the internet. Mendor its your turn to post your photo, what are you afraid of? Ela more Liapi, min ntrepesai! Those are the opinions of SOME Albanians, not the actual Albanian state. Most Albanians dont believe in the Pelasgian theory, I dont think its likely and you cant really prove it. This whole Pelsagian theory mostly only started with the Arvanite Aristidh Kola, who clearly had identity issues, he was trying to figure out the answer to "How can I be Albanian and Greek at the same time", so he made that all up. I dont understand what you're trying to say about Kastrioti. As for Arvanites, all we are doing is stating the fact that they are w/o a doubt of Albanian origin, but today have a Greek conscious and have mixed with Greeks. I would say that Greeks and especially Arvanites themselves are the ones who have romantic ideas more so than Albanians. Many of you try and claim that they were really "Vorio Epirots", not Albanians, but for some odd reason, they still kept the Albanian language for over 500 years. At the time of the Greek Revolution, most were monolingual and only spoke Albanian, how are you going to tell us that they had a Greek conscious back then when they didn't even speak the language. Nonetheless, the Arvanite issue is dead, we mostly bring them up to remind you to think twice before you talk down on us Albanians "savages", because some of you may very well have Albanian origins and you can thank Albanians to a large extent for your independence, thats all. As for Albanians relations during the Ottoman times, some Albanians were pro-Ottoman, but most were, without a doubt, anti-Ottoman. Some Greeks also worked for the Ottoman Empire, should we call you guys Turkgreeks because of that? If your going to bring up the conversion thing, how about all those Greek Muslims, what happend to them? If you really think we are so in love with Turks, then how come Albanians get offended when they are referred to as Turkalbanians? If Albanians are such Islamic extremists, then why dont they demand the opening of Mosques in Athens like the Paki immigrants do? As for the German/Italian subject, why would Albanians fight them if they sympathized with them...Ask yourself these questions before you make assumptions.
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Post by mendor on Dec 13, 2008 17:24:21 GMT -5
Arhiza me 2 hiliades ke eftasa 6 hiliades tin imera.Kali merokamato .Des aftes tis elies piso ego molis tis mazepsa sto kapsomeno ilio .us/img67/unulida7.jpg/1/] [/URL]
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 13, 2008 17:29:44 GMT -5
Gia Peloponniso to kovo to fonto, toulahiston notia Ellada. Haha, auto to mavrisma to leme alvaniko! Mavrisma me fanela!
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