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Post by highduke on Jan 20, 2009 20:05:13 GMT -5
You can still redeem yourselves as a people by subverting the dominant, foreign Chechen-Shqiptar element for the subordinate & supressed but nobler Anatolian-derived Balkan-Dardanian Element, with origins in the Troad. Illyrians were Slavicized, Dardanians were Chechenized & the Turks engineered the dominance of the Chechen element that never forgot its Muslim roots, outbred the Dardanians, whose language they learned & assimilated the R1a & I2b Serbs around them, hence your blondness, donnie
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Jan 20, 2009 20:17:51 GMT -5
I think Albanian is corruption of Arbanian
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Post by highduke on Jan 20, 2009 20:39:49 GMT -5
im certain that it comes from the albanoi & that similarity with cauc. albania is coincidental, the chechen-shqiptar migration only reinforced the name by association up to modern times & whereas arberesh derived from the arbon natives, shiptar is from the chechens: contrast the elemental etymology of shqip with epirioti's superb post in Reply #14 ('those who can understand') with the chechen name for themselves - 'the people'
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jan 20, 2009 20:59:00 GMT -5
Alban-ia (Albin) means white or Light.
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Post by highduke on Jan 20, 2009 21:25:26 GMT -5
Thats true
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 20, 2009 22:23:28 GMT -5
I dont understand why you wast time with gypsies from tajakistan/ossetian (serboi tribes) who want/imaginy to be like Albanians. serb that mean slaves...and slave never will be a normal man. Mos u prekni kot sa per ta ofenduar kete maxhupin e shkinise
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 20, 2009 22:25:51 GMT -5
Albanian - White Man Arbanian - Sun man Serbian - Slaves man
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Post by highduke on Jan 20, 2009 22:54:01 GMT -5
Thats the Shqiptar-Chechen Element showing its dominance. Btw, consider that the foundations of your sinful collective opportunism lie in the fact that your Caucasic founders had only been Muslims for a short time before they left the Caucasus as a band of mercenaries (not a tribe) under Orthodox Byzantine tutelage, then were transported to Alb under Catholic Roman tutelage after decades of living in Sicily, explaining why Albs are multi-religious & why there are so many Latin words in Shqip
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Jan 21, 2009 3:17:46 GMT -5
lol this guy is a funny twister of history
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Post by highduke on Jan 21, 2009 7:31:01 GMT -5
Im not twisting history, its just that the gloss, toponyms, scripts & medieval documentation, supported by 2 of your most beloved, most-quoted albanologists is setting history straight & a paradigm shift on your part is required to understand that because these Western Albanologists are PAID to write what you wanna hear while your cause is politicaly popular & when it isnt, the truth comes out
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Post by libofshe on Jan 21, 2009 7:34:23 GMT -5
You wanna know the truth? There is no Sciponius the f*ck's wrong wit u?
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Post by highduke on Jan 21, 2009 8:27:38 GMT -5
i explained that in Reply #37
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Post by sotneser on Jan 21, 2009 10:14:25 GMT -5
i explained that in Reply #37 the "intelligent" farmer explained it...hahahahaha
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 21, 2009 11:05:38 GMT -5
Some say that Albania derives from Alb, which in Latin/Romanian means white. Now you say it derives from "arë" which means arable land. In Romanian we have "ara" from Latin "arare." It means to plough. Probably no connection, though. No connection. ;D Just to let you know Anittas, we werent the ones who lost out paths. We are the ones who kept to it. Your the Romanized ones, we are the survivors. You failed... ;D
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Post by Duke John on Jan 21, 2009 11:07:03 GMT -5
You wanna know the truth? There is no Sciponius but there are 2 detailed studies by 2 beloved albanologists of a medieval Byzantine document chronicling the the migration of Caucasics to Sicily & from there to Albania (not Epirus) & a scan of it is coming. Epirus & Sciponius was thrown in to give you false hope & demoralize. Donnie, theres no trace of pre-Ottoman Islamic culture because 'the shpata' had a new 'feja' & that famous Albanian mentality toward religion is old Why do you write some bulls**t like that? why do you humiliate your self? dont you have no selfrespect? Dident you know that the Chechens were pagans, and converted to Islam only in the "18th and 19th centuries"? and dident you know that Chechens dident get the Islam from Ottomans but from chechen named "Sheikh Mansur" who converted to islam and trained in Dagestan and brought it to the land of Noxche and converted pagan chechens to islam? you are such an amater, chechens converted to islam only in 18th and 19th centuries, so what you tell about that? your claims are so weak that they can be demolished with some very basic things. Makes no sence atall, the fictionistic migrations of chechens thru cicily or what ever to Albania at that time, chechens were pagans and had no connection with islam, your every caim flops.
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Post by malsor4life on Jan 21, 2009 12:31:40 GMT -5
highduke wrote: "im certain that it comes from the albanoi " Perhaps. The same word Ptolemy in 1 AD uses for the Albanoi tribe of illiria.
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Post by highduke on Jan 21, 2009 13:25:49 GMT -5
The documentation speaks of Caucasic 'native mercenaries from throughout the range' of no particular tribe or language. i use 'chechen' for the same purpose i used sciponius & epirus, however: though alb & checen have cognates, so will other Cauc. languages, based ALSO on the distribution of alb toponyms throughout the entire region, as well. Dyke Jane, Muslim armies were in the Caucasus by the 10th century, the eurochechens left a century later. REPLY #47 should be re-read with that in mind
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Post by highduke on Jan 21, 2009 13:36:15 GMT -5
Also consider that their description as scattered mercenaries of different etno-tribal affiliations would have re-enforced the necessity of a lingua franca or common language that would have been provided by the Latin dialect of S. Italy, another thing to consider when re-reading Reply #47
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Post by rex362 on Jan 21, 2009 13:41:41 GMT -5
ITS OVAH !!!
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Post by Duke John on Jan 21, 2009 13:43:12 GMT -5
blablablabla, you have FAILED! now go away. Your Fictional Cognates FAILED! Your Fictional migration of Chechens to Albania and returning to their previous religion have FILED!
Now you are in a dead end! now you begin to soften your "chechen" thing soon as you realised that chechens adopted very late islam and because of that your claims hold no truth in claiming chechens were already islamic when they arrived to Albania, f**k sake your whole s**t is a joke, Highdukes SCI-FI! hahahah
Im pretty sure every Albanian in these forums are enjoying your humiliation, thanks for such big joy that you offer to us, disproving serbs fictions with such basic points, and viewing you as seljak.
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