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Post by tito on Jun 7, 2009 9:24:40 GMT -5
Slightly off topic (sorry) but; how strict are these muslims in Bosnia towards an Orthdox Christian like me? Would they treat me ok if I went for a visit or are they to the point of being against mixing/mingling with other people altogether? 99% wont discriminate you because of your religion, but if you turn out to be a supporter of the genocidal greater Serbia project then we have a problem that is based on politics and not religion.
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Post by Nikola on Jun 7, 2009 9:36:12 GMT -5
Ah, thanks. I have full respect for all people in the Balkans so I should be ok then.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 7, 2009 9:57:18 GMT -5
Slightly off topic (sorry) but; how strict are these muslims in Bosnia towards an Orthdox Christian like me? Would they treat me ok if I went for a visit or are they to the point of being against mixing/mingling with other people altogether? 99% wont discriminate you because of your religion, but if you turn out to be a supporter of the genocidal greater Serbia project then we have a problem that is based on politics and not religion. Problem is that u have such twisted thought about what genocide is.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 7, 2009 9:58:56 GMT -5
Slightly off topic (sorry) but; how strict are these muslims in Bosnia towards an Orthdox Christian like me? Would they treat me ok if I went for a visit or are they to the point of being against mixing/mingling with other people altogether? LOL at the end of the day I think most people are able to & do mostly judge people as individuals and give their persona the benefit of the doubt regardless of race, religion or ethnicity. I would say most would even go out of their way to extend even kinder graces during initial contact. That's the world I live in. Bosniaks live in a Christian continent, knowingly were once all Christians, are surrounded by & live with Christians so we should be far less confronting to them then they are to us.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 7, 2009 10:49:28 GMT -5
^ I don't remember, do you even live in Europe?
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Post by tito on Jun 7, 2009 10:57:17 GMT -5
99% wont discriminate you because of your religion, but if you turn out to be a supporter of the genocidal greater Serbia project then we have a problem that is based on politics and not religion. Problem is that u have such twisted thought about what genocide is. Useful Tourist Tips: When in visiting Israel don’t provoke the jews by denying or supporting the Holocaust. When visiting Bosnia don’t provoke the muslims by denying or supporting the genocidal greater Serbia project.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 7, 2009 11:03:05 GMT -5
Problem is that u have such twisted thought about what genocide is. Useful Tourist Tips: When in visiting Israel don’t provoke the jews by denying or supporting the Holocaust. When visiting Bosnia don’t provoke the muslims by denying or supporting the genocidal greater Serbia project.Well denying most of us dont. Why would we. Supporting, well thats a wide word, for u we are supporting genocide when we lift three fingers, for others supporting means "liking srebrenica, agreing with it" etc etc. But most bosniaks dont like Serbs because the fact that we are Serbs. Thats not even worth debating.
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Post by Zvone on Jun 7, 2009 11:12:21 GMT -5
^ So, do you agree that genocide happened in Srebrenica?
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 7, 2009 11:17:22 GMT -5
Indeed, our culture is just impregnated with hate for Orthodoxy, we hold that christianity is backward and alien to the balkans, we also claim the whole of Serbia, as recent history showed we seized all major Serb cities and even committed a genocide after ww2 in Europe.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 7, 2009 11:30:13 GMT -5
Slavko Maksimović: Pop iz Brčkog osumnjičen za zlostavljanje maloljetnice 17. 02. 2009. • 07:32
Advokat iz Sarajeva Duško Tomić izjavio je da je stavrofor Srpske pravoslavne crkve Slavko Maksimović seksualno zlostavljao 14-godišnju djevojčicu iz Brčkog. Tomić je za televiziju Federacije BiH rekao da je Maksimović pod istragom pravosudnih organa zbog prijave Z. Đ. da je sveštenik silovao u njegovoj vili u Dvorovima kod Bijeljine prije godinu i po dana.
Majka djevojčice je izjavila da njena porodica živi skromno i da je "pop Slavko njenoj kćerki obećao da će nabaviti školske knjige, ali joj je umesto toga od djetinjstva napravio pakao".
Ona je primetila promjene u ponašanju svoje kćerke, tvrdi da je postala sklona depresiji i da posljednjih mjeseci koristi i ljekove protiv depresije, tako da je dva puta pokušala da izvrši samoubistvo. Taj slučaj vodi se u Tužilaštvu u Brčkom.
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Thank God, the Holy Prophet never did anything like that. Fortunately, muslim haters choose only one hadith that suits them and disregard all the others, but it's an old trick no serious person takes into consideration.
If Islam(and Christianity as well btw) and secularism were two opposite things I'd agree, as you obviously don't know shit about the world your ignorant statements don't surprise me.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 7, 2009 11:52:40 GMT -5
^ So, do you agree that genocide happened in Srebrenica? Yes i do.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 7, 2009 11:53:42 GMT -5
Indeed, our culture is just impregnated with hate for Orthodoxy, we hold that christianity is backward and alien to the balkans, we also claim the whole of Serbia, as recent history showed we seized all major Serb cities and even committed a genocide after ww2 in Europe. kakve veze ovo ima sa Srbijom? Ako je iko "uzimao" gradove to smo mi Bosanci Hriscanske vjere. A to ne znaci da svaki Srbin slaze se u svemu sto se dogodilo. Nadam se da i ti se ne slazes sa svacim sto ste vi uradili, i ako je to bilo u "korist" bosne.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 7, 2009 12:21:15 GMT -5
Ja se slazem sa svacim sto je bilo u korist Bosne, sto podrazumjeva odprilike cijelokupnu nasu politiku tokom rata. One koje su djelovali protiv Bosne smo brzo poslali u Hag.
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Post by Username on Jun 7, 2009 12:43:28 GMT -5
Using one example is not exactly "proof"... There are many other states out there who are secular/atheist and functioning great.. I was not talking about the state. And seriously, I'm kind of concerned.. Based on what I've seen from you tito, you seem like a psychotic fanatic.. are you one of those people who is at risk of strapping a bomb onto themselves and killing innocent people? You seem to be a brainwashed lunatic. I don't know much about Bosnian society, but I sincerely hope that you are one of few who think the way you do.. otherwise Bosnia is doomed to fail. LOL, no and Bosnia cant fail as long as there is a Bosniak people to defend it. Okay so you are just a nationalist... better than a religious fanatic I guess. I really don't believe that's the way you think.. You seem to hate Serbs and Croats just because of who they are, and nothing to do with their beliefs. I hope that's not what Id see in the rest of Bosnia.
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Post by tito on Jun 7, 2009 12:58:03 GMT -5
Okay so you are just a nationalist... better than a religious fanatic I guess. I don’t see anything nationalistic or extreme about Bosniaks, Serbs or Croats who return to their religion, if anything it will make them better people and in best case scenario distance them from extreme nationalism and violence. I really don't believe that's the way you think.. You seem to hate Serbs and Croats just because of who they are, and nothing to do with their beliefs. I have no reason to hate any Serb or Croat who is not an enemy of Bosnia/the Bosniak people.
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Post by Zvone on Jun 7, 2009 13:51:22 GMT -5
Nationalism and religion are the main catalysts for ethnic hatred in BiH. Period. Exclamation point!
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Post by soko on Jun 7, 2009 14:06:11 GMT -5
Slightly off topic (sorry) but; how strict are these muslims in Bosnia towards an Orthdox Christian like me? Would they treat me ok if I went for a visit or are they to the point of being against mixing/mingling with other people altogether? LOL at the end of the day I think most people are able to & do mostly judge people as individuals and give their persona the benefit of the doubt regardless of race, religion or ethnicity. I would say most would even go out of their way to extend even kinder graces during initial contact. That's the world I live in. Bosniaks live in a Christian continent, knowingly were once all Christians, are surrounded by & live with Christians so we should be far less confronting to them then they are to us. actually Europe is a pagan continent, Christianity is a foreign element in Europe, introduced in it's current form by a roman emperor, who needed it for stabilization of his empire. Christianity and Islam are both in essence sects of Judaism, and Judaism has it's roots in even older semitic religions [jewish and arab]... Slightly off topic (sorry) but; how strict are these muslims in Bosnia towards an Orthdox Christian like me? Would they treat me ok if I went for a visit or are they to the point of being against mixing/mingling with other people altogether? eh.. are you joking? Are you talking about Bosnian Muslims, or are you talking about these muslims mentioned here? Have you honestly never met us? What have people been telling you, lol
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Post by tito on Jun 7, 2009 14:09:49 GMT -5
Nationalism and religion are the main catalysts for ethnic hatred in BiH. I would say lack of religion/tolerance towards other religions.
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Post by soko on Jun 7, 2009 14:25:54 GMT -5
The problem in the Balkans is the lack of a secular society, and the immense nationalism, organized crime, along with horrible social conditions, and the lack of proper schooling and health....
Most Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks who make a big deal out of their religion, do so in order to reaffirm their ethnic identity, seen as no matter what medieval history took place 500 years ago, the modern day Bosniak, Serb and Croat are essentially the same, apart from their religion, religion is just a way to show what ethnicity you belong to.. in exyu organized religion = nationalism
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 7, 2009 14:41:01 GMT -5
Ja se slazem sa svacim sto je bilo u korist Bosne,
Tako misle i oni koji su ubijali Srpske i Hrvatske Civile, isto tako za korist Bosne. i ako se ti neslazes sa tim.
Tako isto ja podrzavam neke stvar sto su srbi radili tokom rata, a dosta od tih stvari ne podrzavam. Da je narod birao nebi sigurno bilo rata. Ali eto o ovome smo pricali 1000000 puta i nevidim razlog opet da pocnemo.
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