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Post by terroreign on Apr 8, 2008 16:20:35 GMT -5
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Kanaris
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This just in>>>> Nobody gives a crap!
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 8, 2008 17:20:09 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Apr 8, 2008 17:31:06 GMT -5
Dude F you! lol I stuck this in the Montenegro forum not here
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Kanaris
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This just in>>>> Nobody gives a crap!
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 8, 2008 18:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by fannoli on Apr 8, 2008 19:34:56 GMT -5
Montenegro has the hottest women in Balkans.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 8, 2008 19:39:43 GMT -5
Very very True, Right on!
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Post by atlantis on Apr 8, 2008 19:47:24 GMT -5
Last year I spent my vacation time in budva . It was really nice and I had a really good time there.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Apr 8, 2008 22:56:45 GMT -5
Why do u lock my people up
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 3:38:11 GMT -5
Oh please stop with the conspiracy theories....
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Apr 9, 2008 4:08:53 GMT -5
acroding this book img69.imageshack.us/img69/4888/raspopoviccgorarusijaaq5.jpgimg87.imageshack.us/img87/1368/vladdaniloruskomcaru1vf4.jpgimg87.imageshack.us/img87/7048/vladdaniloruskomcaru2cd4.jpgVladika Danilo Petrović Njegoš in oktober 1711 triet to create union state with Albanians and Montengerins and consideratet both people just brothers Hey terro can you translate this article in english (because i dont know montengrin language): Iz knjige: Radoslav Raspopović: Crna Gora i Rusija Vladika Danilo Petrović Njegoš smatrao Crnogorce i Albance jednom političkom cjelinomOdlomak iz pisma Vlad*ke Danila ruskom Caru od 12/23 oktobra 1711. godine. U pismu Vladika Danilo Petrović Njegoš objašnjava ruskom caru Petru Velikom đe se prostire njegova duhovna vlast. On u pismu navodi i brojna albanska plemena i gradove i traži od ruskog cara da "ogradi" te gradove da se drugi "kraljevi ne bore i ne ratuju za njih". Ispada po njegovom viđenju sa početka 18. vijeka, da je smatrao da Crnogorci i Albanci treba da žive u jednoj političkoj zajednici. Istina, znamo da Crnogorci i Albanci imaju mnogo istovjetnih običaja, uređenja društva (plemensku organizovanost), oba naroda su ratnički narodi, rat im je vjekovima bio takoreći jedini posao ... Ipak iznenađen sam bio kad sam naišao na ovo, Vladika Danilo očito smatra da Crnogorci i Albanci treba da žive zajedno. Ovo je bio početak 18. vijeka, moderne nacije su počele da se stvaraju stotinak godina kasnije, srpsku naciju je u 19. vijeku konstruisao Vuk Karadžić. Ovaj način razmišljanja, sa početka 19. vijeka bio je bliži srednjevjekovnom nego modernom, ljudi su očito više imali srednjevjekovnu svijest nego savremenu - koja je zasnovana na konceptima političkih nacija iz 19. vijeka. Da li su Albanci tada bili saglasni da ruski car i njih ogradi "da drugi kraljevi ne ratuju na njih"? Naravno, ovaj dokument kao i brojni drugi iz crnogorske istorije, strogo je sakriven od crnogorske javnosti, da se ne bi štetile svetosavske bajke i mitovi.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 4:35:48 GMT -5
Okay, Let's see...
Iz knjige: Radoslav Raspopović: Crna Gora i Rusija
Vladika Danilo Petrović Njegoš smatrao Crnogorce i Albance jednom političkom cjelinom
Vladika Danilo Petrovic Njegos supported Montenegrins and Albanians to be in one political union.
An insert from the writings of Vladika Danilo to the Russian Tsar from October 12/23 1711. In the writings of Vladika Danilo he explains to the Russian Emperor Peter the Great where to spread his rule.
In his writings he describes the many albanian tribes and cities, looking for the Russian Emperor to include these cities, so that other kings would not fight and war for them.
By the begining of the 18th century, he begins to believe that Montenegrins and Albanians must live together in a political union.
The truth, we know that Montenegrins and Albanians have much of the same traditions, clans (tribal organizations), both peoples are warrior races, war for many centuries was their only activity...
Still I was suprised when I found this, that Vladika Danilo believed Montenegrins and Albanians had to live together.
This was the begining of the 18th century, modern nations were created 100 years later, the serbian nation was in the 19th century constructed by Vuk Karadzic.
This form of thinking, from the begining of the 19th century was closer to middle-ages instead of modern times, people had a medieval mindset instead of modern - which was created on the concept of a political nation from the 19th century.
Did the Albanians agree back then for the Russian Emperor to include them in Montenegro, so that other kings wouldn't war with them?
Of course, this document like many others from Montenegrin history was hidden from the Montenegrin public, so that it wouldn't endanger Saint Sava's(Serbian Saint) followers.
Very Interesting stuff, not too surprising considering how close we were!
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Apr 9, 2008 4:54:54 GMT -5
thanks terro, very interesing article
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Post by benzino on Apr 9, 2008 14:04:51 GMT -5
hey terro, is this picture of Velika?
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Post by kasso on Apr 9, 2008 14:22:26 GMT -5
Montenegro should return Ulqin back to Albania if they want to prove their friendship to us.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 15:31:10 GMT -5
Kasso - Now you're acting like a non-albanian/traitor Benzino - I believe it is Andrijevica
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Post by kiki on Apr 9, 2008 15:41:18 GMT -5
terror- and his , love and brotherhood towards his (stoka) albanians, can only account for a very small% of montenegrins. the rest want nothing to do with them. so stop preaching your bs.!
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 16:00:00 GMT -5
kiki - are you that blind to the facts? Did you not see that our very own Vladika Danilo wanted to unite Albanians and Montenegrins in a political union?? Similar to the long ago "Serbia and Montenegro"?
Heres what my pal Njegos has to say about our brother Albanians!
“Grmi vatra, da oči ispadnu, pala živa muka na junake: množ Turčina, malo Crnogorca, Arbanasi krvavi junaci, ne daju se lako potisnuti.”
- Petar II Petrovic Njegos, 1847
Hmm, Heroes, I guess that makes two of us! Score 1 for the Montenegrins, 0 for kiki!
Must I go into the story of Sokol Baco? The Albanian General in the Montenegrin army, who was hand-picked by our King Nikola? And was a celebrated general on the streets of Cetinje?
How dare you call heroes "stoka" you neobrazovna little girl! There is much for you to learn!
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Post by kiki on Apr 9, 2008 22:42:12 GMT -5
Albanian or English, please!
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 22:50:35 GMT -5
Albanian or English please!
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Post by kiki on Apr 9, 2008 23:09:35 GMT -5
Albanian or English please!
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