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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 21:03:25 GMT -5
But you have to admit that you have lost this battle. And your racism against other minorities in your country is well known to others. [/quote]
That is because Americans defend Albanians and Macedonia like little countrie cannot fight with power like USA State
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 23, 2008 21:15:17 GMT -5
I guess Tito really didn't prepare you for the truth my dear Slavopean / Bulgar.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 23, 2008 21:16:08 GMT -5
The Intelligent American's Guide To Europe.
"The Intelligent American's Guide To Europe" by Erik von'Kuehnelt-Leddihn Arlington House Publishers, New Rochelle, New York, Copyright 1979.
From section, 30 / Yugoslavia, paragraph 14.
"Another constituent "nation" in Yugoslavia is the Macedonians; they have their own federal state, though ethnically a Macedonian nation does not exist - it is a creation of the leading Yugoslav politicians after 1945.
When the Serbs wrested Macedonia from the Turks and Bulgars in the first two Balkan wars ( 1912-1913 ), they declared the Macedonian Slavs, i.e. these West Bulgars to be "southern Serbs."
The Serbs of course, ignored the fact that the International Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO), dreaming of an independent multinational state of Bulgars, Greeks, Vlachs, and Albanians, had fought the Turks for decades. Bulgars had led that organization, and the number of Serbs in the region was insignificant ( although Belgrade had financed Serb schools ) The Serb claim to Macedonia was based on the short-lived domination by Stefan Dusan and his coronation in Skopje, The Macedonian capital. So the fight that IMRO had waged against the Turks now continued against the Serbs, who retaliated with mounting savegery. A methodical DENATIONALIZATION was attempted: even family names ending, as most of them did, in ...ov or ...ev ( rarely in ...ski ) were changed to to end in ...ic.World Wars I and II brought Bulgar occupations of Macedonia, but the Communists conceived a shrewder idea than the ridiculous one that Macedonians were "southern serbs" : they were declared to be Macedonians pure and simple, and the local Bulgar speech was adapted to Serbian typewriters and printing presses, which meant the elimination of four Bulgarian letters. Encyclopedias in Western countries were, as a rule, stupid enough TO FALL FOR THE TRICK;the Macedonians now figure in them as a brand-new ethnic unit. the trouble, however, is "Macedonian literature," since there is, needless to say, no such entry to be found in reference works for the period prior to 1945!
The Bulgars continue, of course, to claim Macedonia while the Belgrade government, with apparent cleverness, demands the "liberation" of southwestern Bulgaria, inhabited by "Macedonians." In this connection it should not be forgotten that the renaissance of the Bulgarian language came from Macedonia, which produced notable poets and writers.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 21:22:41 GMT -5
Belive me I not crazy to claim macedonian if i dont.But you now the family three speaks that all I know my father my grandfather and my father to my grandfather all I know they are claimed himself like Macedonian only Macedonian.And I cannot be Bulgarian or Serbian. PS I hate bulgarians because Bulgarians kill my grandmother because she claimed Macedonian Thats all
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 21:26:30 GMT -5
But American have twiced politics on balkan .look this map ,this map Americans is have in many university in USA citieshttp://www.americanhellenic.org/macedonia_is_greek/fyrom.jpg
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 21:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 21:46:46 GMT -5
I think you also know the truth of MACEDONIAN""" people but you are very nationalist and for that you can see the true.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 23, 2008 22:00:12 GMT -5
I think you also know the truth of """FYROMnian""" people but you are very nationalist and for that you can see the true. You dink ? Enjoy talking to your self. Must warn you though, keep all discussions civil in order to avoid a ban. I find you amusing.
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 22:05:09 GMT -5
I think you also know the truth of """MACEDONIAN""" people but you are very nationalist and for that you can see the true. You dink ? Enjoy talking to your self. Must warn you though, keep all discussions civil in order to avoid a ban. I find you amusing.
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 22:07:43 GMT -5
You have no fact and you must chanced the post.So you re deeply infectet with that greek propaganda so go fuck you.I think this the forum made by facts but because greeks have no facst they always must modify post with FACT.Go fuck off
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Post by iskender on Feb 23, 2008 22:08:06 GMT -5
I guess Tito really didn't prepare you for the truth my dear Slavopean / Bulgar ================== Don't misquote me.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 23, 2008 22:19:52 GMT -5
Fact. FYROM is the U.N name as per agreement btw Greece and FYROM so doggy your own leaders thanks. For selling you short Slavopeans.
Glygorov said " we are Slavs who have nothing to do with Alexanders legacy. And that we came around 600 AD"
Macedonia is where she is already along with Sparta and Thessaly = Greece. She's already in Nato and the E.U through Greece as a province of Greece.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 23, 2008 23:12:09 GMT -5
Hello iskender, I support your cause, and defend your right to protect your countries history from the Greeks.
The great Athenian statesman Demosthenes, spoke of Philip II:
"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave." Third Philippic, 31
Makedonija na Makedoncite! Za site dusmani begajte ili ke te vie da zagine!
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Post by ioan on Feb 24, 2008 2:10:19 GMT -5
Belive me I not crazy to claim macedonian if i dont.But you now the family three speaks that all I know my father my grandfather and my father to my grandfather all I know they are claimed himself like Macedonian only Macedonian. That is rediculous! There was NO such nation in 18 or 19 century! The "Macaronians" were Bulgarians they declared themselves as such! The writers that passed through fyrom described them as Bulgarian, your fyrom heroes called themselves Bulgarian (Goze Delchev etc.). At this point when your grandpa was born there were no such nation, but a geographical region. And Bulgars settled in Macaronia too (of Kuber) and mixed with the local Peopnians (thracian tribe) and the slav tribes. Same happened in Bulgaria, Bulgars of Asparuch, the Slavs and the local Thracians intermixed and thats why we were always Bulgarians. Macedonians are the northwest Greeks and they have nothing to do with fyrom. Denial is the worst thing a man can do. IF the Bulgarians did it, it must be round the 40ties. Then The Bulgarian authorities killed many Bulgarians from Thrace, Dobrudga, Macedonia, but not cause they were Macos, cause they never were, but cause they were Communists. READ REAL HISTORY AND USE YOUR BRAIN.
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 24, 2008 6:38:58 GMT -5
The motherland Greece.... killed my non armed relatives in my Macedonian village?? We had different last name? Really..? When? I think somebody would have mentioned that in my family emvironment.. lol lol Ah bre iskender.... Titto has smashed your brains..
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Post by iskender on Feb 24, 2008 12:27:34 GMT -5
[quote author=terroreign board=makedoniamacedonia thread=1203811464 post=1203826329]Hello iskender, I support your cause, and defend your right to protect your countries history from the Greeks.
The great Athenian statesman Demosthenes, spoke of Philip II:
"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave." Third Philippic, 31
Thank you brother for support.Pozdrav bilo koja nacionalnost da si.
Da gi go ebam mameto nivno rasisticko.
Makedonija na Makedoncite! Za site dusmani begajte ili ke te vie da zagine![/quote]
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Post by iskender on Feb 24, 2008 12:30:55 GMT -5
Belive me I not crazy to claim macedonian if i dont.But you now the family three speaks that all I know my father my grandfather and my father to my grandfather all I know they are claimed himself like Macedonian only Macedonian. That is rediculous! There was NO such nation in 18 or 19 century! The "Macaronians" were Bulgarians they declared themselves as such! The writers that passed through fyrom described them as Bulgarian, your fyrom heroes called themselves Bulgarian (Goze Delchev etc.). At this point when your grandpa was born there were no such nation, but a geographical region. And Bulgars settled in Macaronia too (of Kuber) and mixed with the local Peopnians (thracian tribe) and the slav tribes. Same happened in Bulgaria, Bulgars of Asparuch, the Slavs and the local Thracians intermixed and thats why we were always Bulgarians. Macedonians are the northwest Greeks and they have nothing to do with fyrom. Denial is the worst thing a man can do. IF the Bulgarians did it, it must be round the 40ties. Then The Bulgarian authorities killed many Bulgarians from Thrace, Dobrudga, Macedonia, but not cause they were Macos, cause they never were, but cause they were Communists. READ REAL HISTORY AND USE YOUR BRAIN. The your tribe is multiethnic with Tatars,Chuvashi,Kumani and Cherkezi and they are from Mongols tribe so I think you didnt use your brain because you dont have a brain
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Post by ioan on Feb 24, 2008 12:54:01 GMT -5
The your tribe is multiethnic with Tatars,Chuvashi,Kumani and Cherkezi and they are from Mongols tribe so I think you didnt use your brain because you dont have a brain pity the serbs brainwashed you to hate your kind. your grandparents should be horrified if they see this "nation".
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Post by iskender on Feb 24, 2008 12:57:29 GMT -5
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Post by ioan on Feb 24, 2008 13:07:26 GMT -5
Bulgarians (including the southwest that live in fyrom) are mixed people. Their ansestors are the Thracians (Peonians, Bessy, Missy etc.), the Slavs and the Bulgars (of Asparuch and Kuber). Deal with it!
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