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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 17:42:38 GMT -5
The anciet macedonian has not dissapiar.No, they have a multietnic live with slavs.That two nation has performed today macedonian nation.But because the antic macedonians has biggest and they show macedonian culturial riches and language.So today for that we call Macedonians=Slavs+anciet macedonian,and we speak antic macedonian and we have original macedonian culture [/u][/quote] If Alexander was Macedonian of Slavic origin, why is he not credited for spreading the great ancient Slavic culture of Macedonia, but the Hellenic culture? His cities were Hellenic, he was educated by a Hellene, why was he not educated by the great Slavic teachers of the time? In Ancient Greece, the city states were fiercely independant, micro nations by today's standards, who would ally with one another no differently than today's nations ally with one another, regardless of ethnicity. What is the most important argument is why Alexander would choose to spread Hellenism, and not the Slavic culture he might have been exposed too. Many cultures have adopted forms of Hellenism since Alexander's time; beginning with Rome, to the British Empire, and now with the United States of America. The birth of Hellenism was Ancient Greece, mostly attributed to the Ancient Athenians. When the term "Greeks" is used in the literature about ancient times, it is used very generally so that it may encompass either those city states which spoke some version of Greek or were Hellenic--Greek is the language, Hellenism is the ideas and culture of Hellenes, whoever these Hellenes may be ethnically. So, if one chooses to reject the Hellenistic foundation of Alexander the Great, then one must also reject Alexander the Great the man, and all his accomplishments in the spread of Hellenism. One cannot simultaneously embrace Alexander as being of Slavic origin yet, at the same time, be rejecting his love of Hellenism. Alexander the Great was a Hellene and the Kindom of Macedonia, was also Hellenic; rejecting this fact is the same as rejecting Alexander himself.
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 17:48:42 GMT -5
The Hellenism in that period was a culture and world language was a antic greek.But because greek language was a world language Alexander must to learned.Like today english,if you want to be a good busisman or politician you must know english or french
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 17:50:08 GMT -5
But that is not a prof for that because today in India official language is English but they are not English
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 17:53:06 GMT -5
Let's look at some facts.
According to the existing archives there was no objective reference to a "Macedonian" nation, in the beginning of the 20th century. Every official census reported only Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian populations and no "Macedonian" nation.
In 1877, according to a map (British E.Stanford 1877) the area of Macedonia was mainly inhabited by Greeks, and in smaller amounts, Albanians, Turks, Vlahs, Serbs, Bulgarians.
In 1904 the Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for Thessaloniki, Monastiri, Scopje doesn't report any "Macedonian" nation.
In 1906 the Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for the area of Macedonia doesn't report any "Macedonian" nation.
In 1926 the League of the Nations doesn't report any "Macedonian" nation in Southern Macedonia.
Suddenly, in 1948, the encyclopaedia Britannica publishes a census that has discovereded a hidden, for any previous census, "Macedonian" nationality (about 66.1% of the total population in FYROM).
If such a nation or ethnos ever existed, then there should be at least a 10% of "Macedonians" in every census (at least in the turkish census), shouldn't there ?
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 17:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 17:58:39 GMT -5
look the other true
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 17:59:33 GMT -5
That time has no Titoism and Comunism.The undepence was in 1903 year
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:03:57 GMT -5
That time has no Titoism and Comunism.The undepence was in 1903 year That's a lie, in 1903 Macedonia was still under the Turkish yolk. Its a poster from 1913 proclaiming the liberation of MacedoniaGreeks liberated Macedonia from the Turks in 1913.... .
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:07:12 GMT -5
That comes from Venizelos Elefterios and his Megali Idea.Which is very good propaganda
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:08:28 GMT -5
No it's not it's the truth. Did you think you freed Macedonia ? lol You must be joking. .
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:10:22 GMT -5
Maybe you heart for Lozana deal for exchange to people.Many greeks(about 500 000) has come from Minor Asia and Many macedonian(muslims) torbeshi has gone in Istambul
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:11:12 GMT -5
We can surqual just like we can but the truth is one
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:13:20 GMT -5
Maybe you heart about civil war in Aegean Macedonia whe thousands of Macedonians has with greek and britans air plane was kiling in Kostur with napalm bomb.Ha what say for that.Why you are kiling that people?Let me see because they are MACEDONIANS
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:17:08 GMT -5
There is only one truth and that is the Hellenic one.
Archaeological finding prove it, recorded writings prove it, the whole world knows it and so do you. Just be very brave to admit it.
Not the Illyden Bulgarian uprising at 1903. That just proves your Bulgarian origins.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:19:18 GMT -5
Ye ok I'm loving that George Soros the propagadist link proving your Bulgarian origins lol
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:22:32 GMT -5
I dont think so
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:23:16 GMT -5
^ From the above pic url and mine bellow. Bulgarian Slavs in Vardar welcome the Bulgarians as liberators, holding frames of Adolf Hitler and Bulgarian King Boris.Enough said Bulgar. .
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:23:37 GMT -5
You are fashist thats all.Just read my text for civil war
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 26, 2008 18:24:53 GMT -5
Good luck trying to prove your lies my chum.
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Post by iskender on Feb 26, 2008 18:25:05 GMT -5
I dont see any Bulgarian symbols on the Ilynden upsiring.I just see macedonian sun and macedonian teritory
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