Rhezus
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Post by Rhezus on Nov 12, 2007 5:14:34 GMT -5
Everybody is invited to give his/her oppinion. Vote about what is a known fact - concerning the true origin of today Bulgarians. (BG Turks can vote here as well..). As for Ruse and Kubrat - I know where you votes will be placed (I shall not take that into consideration).
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Post by depletedreasons on Nov 12, 2007 6:09:46 GMT -5
It seems to me as if Ruse and Kubrat are related to the Mongolians even though most of the modern Bulgarians are related to the Thracians.
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Post by ioan on Nov 12, 2007 6:12:59 GMT -5
mainly thracians, but not only (slav, bulgars, greeks, turks, avars, romans etc.)
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Post by rusebg on Nov 12, 2007 10:12:36 GMT -5
This poll is wrong. I voted for the Bulgars, of course, but it is not sure at all they were steppe people. That first. Second, this is the most totalitarian poll I have ever seen. It would be the same if I start a new one with the following question: Is Rhezus an idiot? Option 1: yes. Option 2:no and then specify it is only me and Kubrat whose votes will be taken into consideration. You are pathetic, Rhezus. Undergrown boy with autoritarian mentality.
And Thracian lovers, don't forget that: whoever Bulgars were, were they living here or in the steppes or they were both here and some came later from the steppes, does not matter at all. They were the one who founded your today's country and fought and died for it. End of story. You can stick your domestic heritage in the darkest places of your anatomy where sun never shines. That includes the ridiculous Janni as well.
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Post by superman on Nov 12, 2007 11:33:53 GMT -5
Rhezus is not an idiot as you suggestes, as a matter of fact your deletion of my post Ruse, that's idiocy. When I support the idea that Bulgarian of today are just proto-romanians with bulgarian language you don't have to delete my post, you have to argument. You're not balanced Ruse, as it seems.
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Post by Kubrat on Nov 12, 2007 15:21:20 GMT -5
rhezus, is this how you vote in sweden?
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Post by ioan on Nov 12, 2007 15:22:26 GMT -5
whoever Bulgars were, were they living here or in the steppes or they were both here and some came later from the steppes, does not matter at all. They were the one who founded your today's country and fought and died for it. I agree with this sentance. Yet we have to respect all our ansestrors, including the Thracians, of which, according to genetics, we are heirs (mainly). We have to give the due respect to all the tribes that contributed to our formation and above all to the Thracians, the Slavs and the Bulgars.
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Post by rusebg on Nov 12, 2007 16:14:30 GMT -5
If you are so kind to notice, it is not me or Kubrat who humiliates ones of our undoubtful ancestors. The very ones who somehow gave the name to your country.
And do you know what is really interesting? That Rhezus hates Bulgars because they are steppe people. At the same time he warships Turks, who, unlike Bulgars, have an undispurtable steppe origin, because he thinks they are Thracians. If this is not a confused person, I don't knowwho is. And he dares to tell me he is right and I am wrong?!
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Post by Rhezus on Nov 12, 2007 18:13:14 GMT -5
Ruse, don't try to speculate like that... And what's this "give name" - when there was already a real, wellknown name?! I tell you this instead: Thrace probably would be a much better place if Bulgars did not "give a name" etc. here. That name is so confusing and making all our heritage much more complicated to understand. Ppl even start denying their true origing and mixe it all up with the stepp-Bulgars. Ok.. would you like to call them the Alpine-bulgars may be?! ;D Ruse, I've heard that before... I only informed ppl that two of the votes about being steppe-Bulgars will be you and Kubrat (which I don't care about). What matters here is the perceptions of the others about what they think is the origing of modern Bulgarians! You were begging for it by saing that it's me (only) who thinks Thracians are the main factor of our ethnicity. So make a reallity check now! Haha... no comment! Ruse trying some Hollywood tactics - playing with people's hearths. Think if they never came here - Thrace would still be a fantastic place! And I'm sure, ppl would fight and die for Thrace. ;D Ruse, you are really freaking out.. Yes, I'll stick to what I find reasonable to believe - Thracians are domestic and steppe Bulgars are not. The other thing about "warshiping" Turks is wrong too. As I said... many ppl can't handle the fact we were under an Ottoman domination for such a long period. Trying to show their hate in different ways here, shows your weakness. If we were brave and strong enough (and wanted to be free from them), we should not allow them to rule here for 5 centuries. Saying such kind of facts is something else than warshiping. I am trying to stay objective - that's all, Ruse.
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Post by Kubrat on Nov 12, 2007 20:35:14 GMT -5
rhezus, go say all that to a Bulgarian in Bulgaria, he would beat the snot out of you. once again, you have managed to insult a whole country and all it's peoples, you are officially a disgrace to Bulgaria and Bulgarians. you are not being objective, you are actually being very ignorant and insulting
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Post by superman on Nov 13, 2007 1:09:47 GMT -5
I have to support Rhezus in this one!
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Post by depletedreasons on Nov 13, 2007 3:25:40 GMT -5
And Thracian lovers, don't forget that: whoever Bulgars were, were they living here or in the steppes or they were both here and some came later from the steppes, does not matter at all. They were the one who founded your today's country and fought and died for it. End of story. You can stick your domestic heritage in the darkest places of your anatomy where sun never shines. That includes the ridiculous Janni as well. Touching really. ;D
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Post by ioan on Nov 13, 2007 5:28:10 GMT -5
Ruse, don't try to speculate like that... And what's this "give name" - when there was already a real, wellknown name?! I tell you this instead: Thrace probably would be a much better place if Bulgars did not "give a name" etc. here. That name is so confusing and making all our heritage much more complicated to understand. Ppl even start denying their true origing and mixe it all up with the stepp-Bulgars. I disagree. Although we are Thracians+Slavs + Bulgars, the Bulgars had crutial role in nowadays formation. They created a state in 681, which later established the Slavic (or Old Bulgarian) language as official. Thus in the end we became the first slavic country (culturally and linguistically). We have strong country that is proud rival of Byzantuim, tnx to the Bulgars. I think we wouldnt be who we are today if it wasnt for them. To hate them means to hate ourselves.
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Post by rusebg on Nov 13, 2007 5:42:25 GMT -5
Eastern Roman Empire.
They not only gave name, they established a state. A good and prosperous one according to those times standards. And no 'probably', please. If my aunt had a dick, she would probably be my uncle. Btw, how do you know it would be a better place since it was after the Bulgars established their state, the invasions of different peoples stopped? Have you thought about that? I doubt it. You are blinded buy your funny hatred.
Haha. I'll post in 50 minutes. I hope I will be able to stop laughing after that brilliant display of your sense of humour.
And five of the rest belong to you, Ioan, Boni, Bottomani and Yahac. With the exception of Ioan, the rest are of no interest to me.
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Post by superman on Nov 13, 2007 6:18:14 GMT -5
And would I be no interest to you? You're closesed to Romania from all the others, you're supposed to know your friends better!
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Post by rusebg on Nov 13, 2007 14:28:06 GMT -5
Bonele, don't identify Romanians with your person only.
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Post by superman on Nov 13, 2007 14:59:19 GMT -5
I'm not even Romanian. Ask Anittas...
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Post by Illyrian_Bosniak on Nov 13, 2007 18:38:54 GMT -5
Bulgarians stem from Turkic tribes
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Post by Rhezus on Nov 13, 2007 19:17:23 GMT -5
Bulgarians stem from Turkic tribes Hahaha... ;D ;D You mean Bulgars, right.
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Post by ioan on Nov 14, 2007 0:02:28 GMT -5
Bulgarians stem from Turkic tribes And the Bosniacs are pure Iliriyan I guess? (because I ve read such teories on your boards, some of our Pomaks also think of themselves as some preserved ancient Thracian tribe). Then why do u speak Slavic? Who are u? Why do u think u re domestic? As for Bulgarians, I m sure u havent read an article on the subject, so do u reserch before posting. Bulgarians of today are mixed people: maily of Thracian origin, but also of Slavic, Bulgar (for which origin there are lots of theories), Greek, Turk, Germanic, Celt origin. As for Bosniak for me they are the Serb analog of the Bulgarian pomaks (Bulgarians with muslim religion).
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