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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Nov 26, 2008 7:33:04 GMT -5
You are ridicoulous Serban, i don't have the time to waste to replay to some of the fake things you wrote there only the bigest fake, Cyrillic alphabet (not ever called Bulgarian) is actually a variant of the Greek alphabet, latin alphabet on the other hand is quite distinct this is not the case of the Cyrillic one; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Cyrillic_alphabetLook at that link all the signes are from greek albhabet almost identic with the addtion of signes from the glagolitic alphabet created by the greeks Cyrill and Methodius.
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Post by ioan on Nov 26, 2008 7:51:35 GMT -5
^so what did Serban lie Adrian? He said Old Church Slavonic was based on Bulgarian Thesalonikian dialect, which is a historic fact and of course latin has some letters from Greek alphabeth. If you start thinking for yourself, you ll see that Bulgarians and Romanians have the least resons to hate each other, actually we have cooperated alot through the centuries and my oppinion is that culturally we are hard to distinguish. Budapest looks like a bigger Sofia. People from bg and ro look like each other. Actually we are result of mixing of the same people: Thracians, Slavs, Bulgars, Petchenegs, Cumans, Celts etc.
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Post by Kefalus on Nov 26, 2008 8:59:02 GMT -5
So Budapest is the capital of Romania? ;D
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Nov 26, 2008 9:14:40 GMT -5
^so what did Serban lie Adrian? He said Old Church Slavonic was based on Bulgarian Thesalonikian dialect, which is a historic fact and of course latin has some letters from Greek alphabeth. If you start thinking for yourself, you ll see that Bulgarians and Romanians have the least resons to hate each other, actually we have cooperated alot through the centuries and my oppinion is that culturally we are hard to distinguish. Budapest looks like a bigger Sofia. People from bg and ro look like each other. Actually we are result of mixing of the same people: Thracians, Slavs, Bulgars, Petchenegs, Cumans, Celts etc. Budapest doesn't look like a bigger Sofia. I don't have the time to reply more but we had over time a lot of problems with you. You were always our enemies at lest in the modern times beginning with the Bulgarians colonized in S Bessarabia who were and are agents of Russification and Russian slaves with Vogoride who was a faithful servant of his Turkish masters and a Turkish Russian slave, with the fate of the Romanian minority in Bulgaria, with the many insults you throw toward us with every occasion and I can go on for a while.
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Post by serban on Nov 26, 2008 9:23:27 GMT -5
For Adrian: You are the one who's ridiculous: Latin alphabet is based on the Greek one, everybody know that. Please do not reply to any of my post from now on. I don't have time to waste.
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Post by ioan on Nov 26, 2008 10:49:59 GMT -5
OFFFFFFFFFFFFF SORRY I MEAN BUCHAREST NOT BUDAPEST!!!!!
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Nov 26, 2008 12:58:18 GMT -5
For Adrian: You are the one who's ridiculous: Latin alphabet is based on the Greek one, everybody know that. Please do not reply to any of my post from now on. I don't have time to waste. Latin alphabet is deriving for the Greek one who is in term deriving from the Phoenician alphabet while Cyrillic one is the Greek alphabet plus some ligatures and characters from Glagolitic alphabet. And don't tell me who i should reply to, this is a free forum moron.
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Post by serban on Nov 27, 2008 4:14:15 GMT -5
Hey Adrian watch your language oligofrenule! So what if the Bulgarians/Cyrillic alphabet has more Greek letters than the Latin alphabet? This is not a contest of which alphabet has the least Greek influence. Don't reply to my posts ever again. You are very stupid and ignorant.
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Post by Kefalus on Nov 27, 2008 5:24:44 GMT -5
Chill out this guys this is a forum not a battle ground.
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Post by arize on Nov 27, 2008 7:30:51 GMT -5
Lol this Adrian kid is really hard headed and stupid I have to agree with Serban, Romania was all Bulgarian land back in the day thats a fact! Sleep on it sweetheart.
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Nov 27, 2008 14:54:55 GMT -5
____________________________________________________ was your mouth out with soap and then you are welcome back.
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Post by ioan on Nov 27, 2008 15:47:48 GMT -5
^adrian are you 10, because you sound like it. why does serban sound like sucking "exotic dicks"? because he doesnt hate us? well i new splash to you: i like romanians, they ve been our friendliest neighbour. now get your hatred and go to the hungarian forum, i know u dont like each other. you wont find hatred toward romanians in this forum and we dont want it towards us.
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Post by serban on Dec 2, 2008 5:22:40 GMT -5
Can any of you Bulgarians help me out with the translation of Bulgarian village names from my district, Mehedinti? In the list below I will put all the Bulgarian names plus the villages names that I suspect to be Bulgarian but I'm not sure they really are and also the partly Bulgarian names. (* stands for any Bulgarian vowel or "ya" diphthong). The letters in caps means they are stressed.  and Î are the renditions of Bulgarian y (schwa) 1. StrehAia (root word: str*h) 2. BãlãcIþa (root word b*l*k, belachitsa?) 3. BãlþAþi (partly Bulgarian from "bAltã"-blato? "bãlþAt"-pystyr) 4. BÂcleº (not sure if Bulgarian, root word b*lk? or b*kl*?) 5. BibAn (a type of fish, not sure if Bulgarian) 6. Bus (not sure if Bulgarian) 7. ClEAnov (Klenov or Klyanov, what does "klen"/"klyan" mean if anything? could be also "hlen"/"hlyan" because "hl-" in difficult to pronounce in Romanian) 8. Corz (kroz, korz?, not sure if Bulgarian) 9. DObra 10. GIUra-VlãdIca (pronounced Dzhyura-Vlydika, giura-Serbian word? vladika-Bulgarian, what does it mean? ruler?) 11. GolinEAsa (from golina-nakedness, nudity?, "-easa"-Romanian suffix of Latin origin like in Bulgarian "mutresa", English "goddess" etc.) 12. GvardEniþa (sounds Bulgarian but I don't know what it means, root word: gv*rd, kv*rd?) 13. Higi (pron. hidzhy, hear "y" means palatalization, doesn't seem to be a Serbian word, hið?, definitely not Bulgarian) 14. MalUmnic ("malovnik"?, root word m*l*m) 15. PirIa (root word "pir", doesn't seem to be Bulgarian or Serbian) 16. POdu-GrOsului (partly Bulgarian from "pod"-most; tavan in Romanian, "gros" means thick, Latin word) 17. RocºorEni (root word r*ksh, r*shk, could be a diminutive from "rok"-godina, with the diminutival suffix "-ºor" (Latin suffix), "-eni" means "-ntsi" (Latin suffix), Rocºoreni could mean "Rokchantsi", "Rokchentsi" but very unlikely 18. ScorIla (from "skoro" with the suffix "-il(a)", don't know the origin of the suffix but it seems to be present in Bulgarian too, Stoil? probably not Bulgarian though) 19. SlAºoma (root word sl*sh*m, probably Slavic, Bulgarian or Serbian, because in Romanian there are no words of Latin origin beginning with "sl-") 20. SmAdoviþa (root word sm*d) 21. StãnEºti (=Stanovtsi from stan (I don't know what "stan" means but I know it's a Bulgarian word, Stanko, Stancho) 22. StIgniþa (root word "st*g" from "stiga", "pristigam"?) 23. SumAndra (probably not Slavic) 24. VarOdia (probably not Slavic, root word v*r*d) 25. BasIci (pronounced basichy, "y" here means palatalization, Serbian basiæ, root word b*s, probably not Slavic though) 26. BãzãvAni (root word b*z*v) 27. BârzEscu (from byrz=fast, quick, "-escu" is a Latin suffix meaning "-antsi", "-entsi") 28. BOca (root word b*k) 29. CojmãnEºti (root word k*zhman, k*zman?, k*z(h)?) 30. CorcOva (root word k*rk, kr*k) 31. CorobÃile (root word k*r*b) 32. CovrIgi (covrig means gevrek, probably a Slavic word, covrigi means gevretsi) 33. CrOici (pron. almost like kroiæ, root word kr*k, kr*?) 34. DrãgotEºti (from DrAgotã, from "drag") 35. Ercea (root word *rk, "ercho"?) 36. GâlcEºti (from gylcha?) 37. GârbovÃþ (grybovets, gyrbovets) 38. GordUn (root word g*rd*n, doesn't seem to be Bulgarian, although it might come from "gord" proud with unexplained "-un") 39. GovodArva or GovodArna (I'm not sure which is the actual name) (from "govedo"?, "-darva" seems to be Bulgarian too, root word dr*v, d*rv, or from davam, to give?) 40. Horúti (root word h*r) 41. ImOAsa (root word *m) 42. JIgniþa (root word zhig, zhiv or zh*k) 43. LeUrd (root word l*rd) 44. PârvulEºti (from pryv) 45. PloºtIna (from plosht?) 46. PoIAna (polyana) 47. RuncurElu (diminutive from RUncu, root word r*nk) 48. SamarinEºti (Slavic word, there is one village in Serbia called Samarinovac, root word s*m*r*n, s*m*r) 49. SeverinEºti (probably from sever) 50. SlivilEºti (from sliva with the suffix "-il" (what origin is this suffix) and the Latin suffix "-eºti) 51. StEIcu (root word st*k) 52. StejAr (stozher?) 53. StroEºti (root word str*, Stroe was a very common first name in Romanian and it is a common last name now) 54. SUra (root word s*r) 55. ªIAcu (root word sh*k) 56. TehomIr (=Tihomir) 57. ÞiriOI (root word ts*r) 58. ZegujAni (root word z*g*zh) 59. BAla (root word b*l) 60. BerEºti (root word b*r) 61. BratilOv (from brat with the suffixes "-il" and "-ov"?) 62. BrebIna (root word br*b, b*rb) 63. BuicAni (from Boyko?) 64. CanIcea (root word k*nk, k*n*k, k*n) 65. CãmuIEºti (root word k*m) 66. CÂrciu (root word k*rk, k*rk) 67. CErna-Vârf (from cheren unless from Thracian Dierna and vryh) 68. ClesnEºti (root word kl*sn*) 69. CloºAni (root word kl*sh, kl*s, k*lsh, k*ls) 70. CrAcu-MUntelui (from krak, munte=mountain, mount, Latin word) 71. CrAInici (pron. Krayniæ, root word kraynik, what does kraynik mean? end, extremity) 72. DÂlma (root word d*lm, dl*m) 73. DrãghicEºti (from Dragiæ) 74. GãrdãnEAsa (root word g*rd, gr*d) 75. GlOgova (root word gl*g, g*lg) 76. GodEAnu (root word g*d, "-eanu" is the Latin suffix meaning "-anets", "-enets", the same for "-escu") 77. GornEnþi (=Gornentsi) 78. GornOviþa (=Gornovitsa) 79. Izverna (from the prefix "iz-" and the root word v*r?) 80. IUpca (root word yup, *p?) 81. JormãnEºti (root word zh*rm, zhr*m, could be a simplified form of Giormãneºti, pronounced dzh...., Serbian word?) 82. LUdu (from lud=crazy?) 83. MalarIsca (root word m*l) 84. MArga (root word m*rg, mr*g, doesn't seem to be Bulgarian) 85. MolAni (root word m*l) 86. MOtru (probably not Slavic) 87. NadAnova (what does it mean, seems to be Bulgarian) 88. NegoIEºti (from the old male name NEAgu, probably Bulgarian) 89. ObÂrºia (means origin in Romanian, Bulgarian word, what word does it come from? obyrna?) 90. OhAba (?) 91. PAdeº (root word p*d? plus suffix "-eº", Slavic suffix?) 92. PodEni (probably from pod) 93. PonOArele (plural from ponOr, Bulgarian word?) 94. PopEºti (=Popovtsi) 95. PrEjna (pronounced prezhna, initial form could have been prejma, root word pr*zh, p*rhz) 96. ProitEºti (root word pr*t) 97. Rudina 98. SãrdãnEºti (root word s*rd, sr*d from syrdya, sreden?) 99. SchiþimII (pron. Skitsimiy, root word sk*ts*m, sk*t*m?) 100. SEliºtea (=Selishte) 101. SfOtea (root word sv*t) 102. StUdina (coldness? cold place?) 103. SupãnEºti (root word s*p) 104. ªIpot 105. ªirOca (=Shiroka) 106. ªovArna (?, root word sh*v, s*v, sh*g, s*g) 107. TitirlEºti (probably not Slavic) 108. TurtAba (probably not Slavic) 109. VidimirEºti (from Vidimir, Vedimir?, is there such a first name in Bulgarian?) 110. BrAniºtea (what does branishte mean?) 111. CearÂng (root word ch*r*ng, chr*ng, ch*r*g, chr*g?) 112. CujmIr (root word k*zh, k*z) 113. DârvAri (from dyrvo-wood) 114. DrIncea (root word dr*n, d*rn, drincho?) 115. GÂrla (gyrlo-throat, neck?) 116. GOAnþa (root word g*nts, g*nt) 117. IzImºa (strange name, Slavic?) 118. OpriºOr (from opiram? "a oprI" means spiram in Romanian, OprIº is a last name, possibly from "a opri") 119. PrisãcEAnca (Slavic word but I don't know what it means, prisAcã=pchelin) 120. PunghIna (root word p*ng, p*g) 121. Vrata 121. BatOþi (?) 122. BistrEþ (=Bistrets) 123. BurIla (?, suffix "-il(a)", from burya?) 124. CrIvina (=Krivina, what does kriv mean? bent, not straight?) 125. DãncEU (Dancho?) 136. DevesEl (Devet Sela???) 137. IzvOArele (=Izvorite) 138. JIAna (from Jiu, a river, Slavic version Zhil, does Zhil mean something in Bulgarian? Or zhel?, zhyal?) 139. MilEni (=Milovtsi) 140. Ostrovu-MAre (=Golyam Ostrov, partly Bulgarian name) 141. ScãpÃU (root word sk*p) 142. TismAna (root word t*sm, t*sn) 143. VrAncea (=Vrancho, what does vran mean?)
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Post by ioan on Dec 2, 2008 9:08:28 GMT -5
1. StrehAia (root word: str*h) there is a word in Bulgarian "STRYAHA", in some bg. dialects "STREHA", it means awning, roof. Sometimes used as home in RODNA STRYAHA for example. KLEN is maple in Bulgarian. It means good in feminine gender. Vladika means bishop in Bulgarian. Gol means NAKED in Bulgarian, gola-fem gender, golo-neuter gender We have GVARDIA in Bulgarian. I think its foreighn word (Romanian?). It means guards. MALOUMNIC means stupid person. Sounds Greek. POD in bg means floor. SLUSHAM means to hear. Stan means LOOM, but also it means CAMP in Bulgarian. It has two meanings. stigam means to reach smth. Burz means fast in bg. We have Bulgarian personal name KUZMAN. its cork in Bg. korab is ship. in Bulgarian its GEVREK we dont have KOVRIG. KRUG in bg means a circle. Dreag means DEAR. gulcha is scold. Grub mean back (the back of a body). yeah gord is proud. purvi means first.
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Post by serban on Dec 2, 2008 11:10:06 GMT -5
OK thanks but you have translated mostly the ones that I already knew. What about the other ones? Gvardeniþa is probably not from gvardiya. This is a new word in Bulgarian from French through Russian. Its initial form could be either kvardenitsa(because "cv" is difficult to pronouce by Romanians) The village must be much older than that. VlãdIcã means bishop in Romanian too. Old word for it. Now we use episcOp. We also have the first name Cosmin (pronounced kozmIn) but not Cusman or Cuzman (at leat not today). It is likely that it comes from Cuzman though. We also have the name Cosma (pronounced KOzma) PodEA means floor in Romanian. In my Romanian dictionary it says that "covrig" comes from Bulgarian "kovrig". It doesn't say what kovrig means. Stigniþa could have been Sticniþa at the beginning or more probably from stiglits (Stigliþa), although I can't understand why it would change from stigliþa to stigniþa. This is what my dictionary says: bãl=blond from old bg. bel bibAn=fish from bg. biban smead=pale-faced from old bg. smed stejAr (unknown origin, to be compared with bg. stezher) vrAnã-from bg. vrana
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Post by rusebg on Dec 3, 2008 15:43:52 GMT -5
I think stozher means something like 'oak' but I am not sure. In modern meaning it is something steady, fundamental.
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Post by Edlund on Dec 4, 2008 9:00:48 GMT -5
I will omit explanations about names, which you already know. There are some very short names, for which many etymologies are possible. I will write here about the etymologies, for which I'm almost sure. 10. GIUra-VlãdIca (pronounced Dzhyura-Vlydika, giura-Serbian word? vladika-Bulgarian, what does it mean? ruler?) Gyuro is a male name. It is accepted that the name comes from "Georgi". The Serbian version is Djuro. Bulgarian words starting with "gv" or "kv" are very rare. In Old Bulgarian there were only "gvozdii" and "kvas". On the other hand the word "guard" comes from French, but it didn't develop from a Latin root but from a Germanic one - "ward". In modern English there is also the verb "ward". In Bulgarian a verb with the same meaning is "vardya". In the Balkans there are placenames like Vardarac (guardian), Vardishte (guarded place), Vardino, Vardin, Vardichi, Vardaróftsa (this is in Greece). I didn't find a placename "Vardenitsa", but the suffixes here (-en and -itsa) are typical for the Slavic placenames. So it's very interesting how come such a placename developed this "g" in front of "vard", which happened also in French. For sure you know about Decebalus per Scorilo. The suffix in Bulgarian names -il was widely used, and sometimes also -ilo and -ila (Bratilo, Bratila, Stoilo, Stoila). So today there are names like Stoil, Boril, Strahil, Momchil, Mihail, Danail, Gavrail etc. and in the past there were many others. The last ones are byblical, but the suffix is -il. The same suffix is used as -ilo in modern Serbian names - Momchilo, Danilo, Dobrilo, Radmilo, and also Gavrilo, Mihailo etc. "Skoro" in Bulgarian means "fast". The male name Skoril is attested, and also other forms like Skoro, Skoran, Skoriko, Skorogost. There's a Bulgarian placename "Smyadovo". Back in time it meant something like "dark". In modern Serbian "smedja boja" means "brown colour". And a dark-haired woman has "smedja kosa". "Stanishte" in Old Bulgarian meant "shelter", Latin refugium, modern Bg "ubezhishte". "Kroya" means "to cut" in Bulgarian. There was Bulgarian male name Ercho, coming from Ero/Yaro, which is found in Yaroslav. There was this suffix for Bulgarian male names -un. Examples - Gorun, Dragun, Gostun. The form "Gordun" is unattested. It seems very probable that it comes from "Govedarevo". "Govedar" means "herdsman". It's the same suffix like in "Skoril". From "stroya" - "to build". "Bratil" was also a male name. Thracian "Cierna/Dierna" also meant "black". So this name is like Bulgarian Cherni vryh. There is a word "kloshar", meaning "a tramp, a vagrant", but I don't know the etymology. Yes. It's of the same root as Ukraine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KrajinaCould it come from "gradina" = "garden"? In the times before Old Bulgarian (before the so-called "tort/tolt metathesis") the word should have been "gardina" In Old Bulgarian there was the word "gryd" which meant "proud" (modern Bg "gord"). Since the "r" should have been vocalic here, in modern Bg it should have turned to "gyrd". The form "gord" comes probably from Russian. "Glog" means "hawthorn". It must come from the verb "izvira" - to spring, from the same root like "izvor" - spring. There was a male name Nadan. It is related to "nadezhda" = "hope", which in some dialects and in Serbian is "nada". Nega/Nyaga was an old word, from which developed modern Bg "nezhnost". There were names Nega, Negoslav, Negomir, Negota, Negoil, Negoi etc. Negoieshti comes from the last form. If it means "origin" in Romanian in the sence of "original, pattern", then it should come from "obraz". "Prezhna" in Bg means "previous, preceding". More often is used "predishna". "Ruda" means "ore", like in "gold-ore", "iron-ore". There are Bulgarian placenames Studena. The "i" could be related to Ukrainian influence, see here - www.fallingrain.com/world/a/S/t/u/d/i/Yes, there is, and also many others from the root "vid". "Viden" means "famous", and also some of those names could come from the verb "to see". "Bran" is an old word for "fight". "Branishte" means "wood, forest". There was a male name Drincho. "Preseka, presicham" as a verb means something like "to cross (the street)". There are placenames "Preseka" in all south-Slavic countries - www.fallingrain.com/world/a/P/r/e/s/e/, and also note Preseaca in Romania. However, Prisaceanca might not come from this word. There were names Buril, Burilcho. The form "Burila" is unattested but is logical. "Krivina" means "curve". There is a word "zhila" meaning a couple of things and there are also other similar words like the verb "zhilya" = "to sting". Check the dictionaries. Here are similar placenames: www.fallingrain.com/world/a/381/i/l/"Vran" is an old word for "black". There was male name Vrancho.
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Post by serban on Dec 5, 2008 16:03:19 GMT -5
Thanks a lot Edlund for the translations and for having searched for -otitsa names. Some observations 1. Bg suffix -cho has been rendered -cea in Romanian: Mircho=Mircea, Vrancho-Vrancea 2. Both Bg and Ro had names ending in -il and -ota suffixes Quote: 12. GvardEniþa (sounds Bulgarian but I don't know what it means, root word: gv*rd, kv*rd?) "Bulgarian words starting with "gv" or "kv" are very rare. In Old Bulgarian there were only "gvozdii" and "kvas". On the other hand the word "guard" comes from French, but it didn't develop from a Latin root but from a Germanic one - "ward". In modern English there is also the verb "ward". In Bulgarian a verb with the same meaning is "vardya". In the Balkans there are placenames like Vardarac (guardian), Vardishte (guarded place), Vardino, Vardin, Vardichi, Vardaróftsa (this is in Greece). I didn't find a placename "Vardenitsa", but the suffixes here (-en and -itsa) are typical for the Slavic placenames. So it's very interesting how come such a placename developed this "g" in front of "vard", which happened also in French." There are some French words with Germanic etymology: Guillaume (I hope I spelled it right)-William, guerre-war The name Gvardeniţa is probably older than the Bg word gvardiya. Quote: 18. ScorIla (from "skoro" with the suffix "-il(a)", don't know the origin of the suffix but it seems to be present in Bulgarian too, Stoil? probably not Bulgarian though) "For sure you know about Decebalus per Scorilo. The suffix in Bulgarian names -il was widely used, and sometimes also -ilo and -ila (Bratilo, Bratila, Stoilo, Stoila). So today there are names like Stoil, Boril, Strahil, Momchil, Mihail, Danail, Gavrail etc. and in the past there were many others. The last ones are byblical, but the suffix is -il. The same suffix is used as -ilo in modern Serbian names - Momchilo, Danilo, Dobrilo, Radmilo, and also Gavrilo, Mihailo etc. "Skoro" in Bulgarian means "fast". The male name Skoril is attested, and also other forms like Skoro, Skoran, Skoriko, Skorogost." Of course I know about Decebalus per Scorilo. I just didn't think the word come for the Thracian Scorilo Quote: 20. SmAdoviþa (root word sm*d) "There's a Bulgarian placename "Smyadovo". Back in time it meant something like "dark". In modern Serbian "smedja boja" means "brown colour". And a dark-haired woman has "smedja kosa"." smead means dark-skinned and pale in Romanian. It is only used when referring to the color of the face. However it should have been Smedoviţa not Smadoviţa. (ea/e shift similar to Bg ya/e) Quote: 21. StãnEºti (=Stanovtsi from stan (I don't know what "stan" means but I know it's a Bulgarian word, Stanko, Stancho) ""Stanishte" in Old Bulgarian meant "shelter", Latin refugium, modern Bg "ubezhishte"." No, it comes from the male name Stan + suffix -eşti. What does Stan mean? The one who resists, endures? Quote: 33. CrOici (pron. almost like kroiæ, root word kr*k, kr*?) ""Kroya" means "to cut" in Bulgarian." a croI means to make clothes. Bg word. CroitOr=tailor Quote: 53. StroEºti (root word str*, Stroe was a very common first name in Romanian and it is a common last name now) "From "stroya" - "to build"." Do you have the male name Stroe in Bg? It used to be a very common first name in Ro and now is a common last name. Derived from it is the last name: StroEscu (="Stroeski") Quote:102. StUdina (coldness? cold place?) "There are Bulgarian placenames Studena. The "i" could be related to Ukrainian influence, see here - www.fallingrain.com/world/a/S/t/u/d/i/" Studina has the Bg. suffix -ina like in visochina, Bukovina, shirochina, rodina. It probably means cold place Quote:119. PrisãcEAnca (Slavic word but I don't know what it means, prisAcã=pchelin) ""Preseka, presicham" as a verb means something like "to cross (the street)". There are placenames "Preseka" in all south-Slavic countries - www.fallingrain.com/world/a/P/r/e/s/e/, and also note Preseaca in Romania. However, Prisaceanca might not come from this word." The transformation of unstressed "e" in "i" in Ro was common. For instance we have a village called Prislav in Tulcea county (some say this is the old Bg Preslavets) Also întunEric/întunErec (=dark) Prisăceanca comes from prisăcEAn, adjective derived from prisAca + suffix -ca (Bg suffix used for the names of female inhabitants instead of simple Latin suffix -a. BucureştEAn-Bucharest male inhabitant, bucureştEAncă-Buch. female inhab. The initial form must have been prisEAcă, dialectal prisAcă (this is not the ea/e shift I told you about). So instead of PrisecEAnca (here you have the ea/e shift that is a counterpart to Bg ya/e shift) we have PrisăcEAnca (from prisAcă when a turning into ă-schwa- because it loses the stress) Quote:123. BurIla (?, suffix "-il(a)", from burya?) "There were names Buril, Burilcho. The form "Burila" is unattested but is logical." Burila is the feminine of Burilă (=Buril)
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Post by serban on Dec 5, 2008 16:38:46 GMT -5
I think stozher means something like 'oak' but I am not sure. In modern meaning it is something steady, fundamental. Stejar means oak in Ro In my Romanian dictionary it says that obÂrºie comes from old Bulgarian obrushiye. In an older dict. it is compared to Serb. obršiti.
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Post by serban on Dec 5, 2008 16:42:47 GMT -5
Episcop (bishop) is pronounced epIscop. The pronunciation episcOp for bishop is extremely rare although it is mentioned in the dictionary. EpiscOp also means 2 different types of optical devices. This is always pronounced episcOp.
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