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Post by Username on May 9, 2009 2:44:42 GMT -5
Are you being serious or just joking? Never knew you had Ustasa ideology in you Dont be ashamed of your Serb side. No jokes here. Just stating historical facts.
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Post by SKORIC on May 9, 2009 2:48:02 GMT -5
You cant rid yourself from your Serb side that easily. Sucked in you're stuck with us
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Post by zgembo on May 9, 2009 2:52:58 GMT -5
But regardless, my parents decided to hide the fact that I was half-Serb so: -I could fit into the Croatian-Canadian community (which I really can't say I cared much about) -and frankly because they were embarrassed. I only found out I was half Serb in my early teens. I remember crying the night they told me. That's pretty pathetic I have to say and by that I mean the mere fact you would be so ashamed of a grandparent or parent of yours. My grandmother is Croatian but I love her to death and I would never be ashamed of her. In my nationalistic teenage years I would just insist that she is a Catholic Serb. Mind you, she didn't care either way. She is incredibly loyal to her Catholic church, but she loves her grandkids even more (and would probably accept being Ethiopian if that is what we wanted). Anyway, in the end, the most important thing is how you feel. Two of my good friends have Croatian mothers, but are the most patriotic Serbs I know. I'll take patriotic 'half-breeds' like that over pure-bred Serbs who don't care any day. Someone like Ivo Andric or Sinisa Mihajlovic is going to be more dear to me than Cedo Jovanovic. I heard an interesting comment about this from someone way back. 620 years have passed since the Battle of Kosovo. That amounts to about 25 generations, or the person today having 24 generations of ancestors. If you add that up it works out to something like 16.7 million people (2 ^ 24). All of these people will not have been Serbs. One can only imagine how many different nations are present there. But if today you consider yourself Serbian and have been raised in the Serbian spirit, that's all that matters. That's what makes you similar to other Serbs. That's what forms a common bond in a particular nation.
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Post by SKORIC on May 9, 2009 3:10:25 GMT -5
My uncle found out he was 1/4 Croat like a few months ago and cracked the shits. He's in his 40's and never knew lol
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Post by Novus Dis on May 9, 2009 3:19:48 GMT -5
You cannot rewrite history. Bosnian Serbs are not real Serbs. They are Orthodox Croats. That map is somewhat inaccurate since it includes Orthodox Christian Serb vassals as a part of Croatia when they technically weren't. But still, even if all that was apart of the "Kingdom of Croatia" (and according to your logic) that would mean that all Croats are actually Magyars or Italians. I'll take patriotic 'half-breeds' like that over pure-bred Serbs who don't care any day. Me too.
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Post by srbobran on May 9, 2009 10:19:57 GMT -5
I think Serbs should stick to their own and marry within our ethnicity as MUCH as possible. I've no problem with marrying Croats or Bosniaks because they're basically the same as uswe definitely should stay away for marrying Westerners or God forbid Asians and all those other races. You're telling me you would accept a half chinese half serb child as a Serb?I sure as hell wouldn't.
Also, the VAST majority of inter ethnic Serb marriages have been with either Croats or Bosniaks so its fine.
---------------------------- That map is somewhat inaccurate since it includes Orthodox Christian Serb vassals as a part of Croatia when they technically weren't.
According to him, Dubrovnik is Serbian. Enough said.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 9, 2009 10:45:40 GMT -5
I agree with Srbobran. Have to make 100% sure that the children are raised Serb.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on May 9, 2009 12:50:51 GMT -5
But regardless, my parents decided to hide the fact that I was half-Serb so: -I could fit into the Croatian-Canadian community (which I really can't say I cared much about) -and frankly because they were embarrassed. I only found out I was half Serb in my early teens. I remember crying the night they told me. Da sam na tvom mestu ja bih se ubio. Nikad nije kasno. ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 9, 2009 15:32:04 GMT -5
zgembo is 100% right. whenever baby-boomer type greeks ask me with horror about some trip they plan to do via Serbia, i tell them one magic word that will solve all their problems: RESPECT.
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 9, 2009 15:52:30 GMT -5
Are/were there Inter-Ethnic Marriages between Serbs and Albanians? In the forums I've never come across anybody with Serb/Albanian background, while there are many with Serb-Croat background. There are occassional ones in Montenegro. Ive met one in my highschool a long while back. There was a lot of hostility between her and the other Albs when she told them that she was half Serb. She started to dislike Albs eventually and moved to a mostly Serb identity because of this...
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Post by L0gjICK on May 9, 2009 16:01:12 GMT -5
Melty, I would bet good money she came from an Albanian Catholic background. Anyways those of Serb/Albanian background usually call themselves "Yugoslavian."
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Post by soko on May 9, 2009 16:03:00 GMT -5
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Post by Alb_Korcar on May 9, 2009 18:46:51 GMT -5
if u live in America yea...not if u live in the balkans...unless u want to confuse the s.hit out of ur future kids
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 9, 2009 21:05:52 GMT -5
unless u want to confuse the s.hit out of ur future kids
not especially. kids will be essentially whatever they will see themselves to be. (it is all a state of mind anyway)
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Post by Alb_Korcar on May 9, 2009 22:13:22 GMT -5
unless u want to confuse the s.hit out of ur future kidsnot especially. kids will be essentially whatever they will see themselves to be. (it is all a state of mind anyway) not especially? lol i take back what i wrote...interethnic/interracial marriages are NEVER ok...even if u live in America !! some of my friends are mixed...1 of them is half black half white, and some are diferent ethnicities like half Albanian half Greek or half Chinese half Irish American etc and they are usually (but not always) confused because they want to embrace both cultures. but it works out in America because u can just be "American" or just another "white boy" maybe if the whoel world became Communist it would be ok, in reality it is not, and its pointless to mix especially if most peopel in the balkans look alike so theres no reason for interethnic marriages to occur.
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Post by Trazi Vise on May 9, 2009 23:03:14 GMT -5
^Theres nothing wrong with embracing other cultures. I am Croat but from different areas and slightly different language and cultures. Nothing wrong with being apart of both. Can't see a difference if they were from two seperate countries...same as being from two seperate regions of the same country really.
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Post by Username on May 10, 2009 16:21:03 GMT -5
But regardless, my parents decided to hide the fact that I was half-Serb so: -I could fit into the Croatian-Canadian community (which I really can't say I cared much about) -and frankly because they were embarrassed. I only found out I was half Serb in my early teens. I remember crying the night they told me. That's pretty pathetic I have to say and by that I mean the mere fact you would be so ashamed of*grandparent or parent of yours. My grandmother is Croatian but I love her to death and I would never be ashamed of her. In my nationalistic teenage years I would just insist that she is a Catholic Serb. Mind you, she didn't care either way. She is incredibly loyal to her Catholic church, but she loves her grandkids even more (and would probably accept being Ethiopian if that is what we wanted). Anyway, in the end, the most important thing is how you feel. Two of my good friends have Croatian mothers, but are the most patriotic Serbs I know. I'll take patriotic 'half-breeds' like that over pure-bred Serbs who don't care any day. Someone like Ivo Andric or Sinisa Mihajlovic is going to be more dear to me than Cedo Jovanovic. I heard an interesting comment about this from someone way back. 620 years have passed since the Battle of Kosovo. That amounts to about 25 generations, or the person today having 24 generations of ancestors. If you add that up it works out to something like 16.7 million people (2 ^ 24). All of these people will not have been Serbs. One can only imagine how many different nations are present there. But if today you consider yourself Serbian and have been raised in the Serbian spirit, that's all that matters. That's what makes you similar to other Serbs. That's what forms a common bond in a particular nation. Hahaha, I was kidding.. I was never embarrassed (or really cared anyways) that I am half Serb. But I'm more Croat than anything else. My family is proud of Croat background (we cheer on Croatia whenever we can - we even had a family member play on Croatia's national team, and he did quite well). We're extremely Catholic (although I cant say I care for organized religion too much), and we mingle with other Croats too.. so I can't really say that I have much, if any Serb, in me. I wouldn't even feel right saying that I'm Serb.. cause I don't see myself as one. Not saying there's anything wrong with it. I just don't see myself as one.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on May 10, 2009 21:31:31 GMT -5
^Theres nothing wrong with embracing other cultures. I am Croat but from different areas and slightly different language and cultures. Nothing wrong with being apart of both. Can't see a difference if they were from two seperate countries...same as being from two seperate regions of the same country really. of course there's nothing wrong with embracing other cultures...but there is almost always something wrong with being part of both. and...it is very different then being from 2 seperate regions. example: if a kid has a parent from Kosovo and one from Albania, sure some doofus might give him a hard time but for the most part he'll be accepted, and he can show off both sides because he knows in the end he is still Albanian. example 2: if a different kid has one Albanian parent and one Greek parent he can show off both sides by putting the Greek flag next to the Albanian flag in his myspace profile and writing "GreekAlbo" in his headline. but u know all the Greeks and Albanians who visit his profile are secretely laughing at him. then there are the wise guys who ask which parent is which, and depending on the answer, one side claims defeat and the other victory. example 3: Obama. he is half white. his mother is white. but he completely embraces his black side. even the white Americans that voted for him, voted knowing they were voting for a black man. example 4: you. you are a Croat. so you have completely disowned your other "parts" so whats the point of interethnic marriages then? Lol...see I still win.
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 10, 2009 21:40:19 GMT -5
And openly. I have read all the comments people live the kid's profile on youtube, Greek or Alb. I love each and everyone of their comments.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on May 10, 2009 21:44:33 GMT -5
^who's youtube, u have a link? LOL anyway i wasn't talking about anyon'es youtube, you're probably thinking about a different person.
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