ioan
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Post by ioan on Jan 5, 2010 15:24:37 GMT -5
I think as individuals Balkanians are intelligent. Even quite intelligent. As societies most Balkan counties are shit (excluding probably Slovenia). We are not social human beings, we are individualists but in the wrong way. We do not care about our personal advantage, we care about our neighbours disadvantage. Bulgarians have this saying - "I do not care if I am all right as long as Vute is not all right" And this resulsulsts into a very shitty society. We hate our states, we see them as our enemies, not our servants.
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Post by rusebg on Jan 5, 2010 16:13:51 GMT -5
Lol..Melty please go have a beer or whatever you drink. The general knowledge of any Balkanian is much higher to most of their Western fellas.
Of course, man. I wish you had a wife with that attitude, looking to screw someone before midday just because her husband is already drunk. Plenty of such examples I have witnessed with my own eyes. Really, I hope your future wife will be as open-minded as that. And before you kill her, remember what you have posted here and spare her life.
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Jan 5, 2010 16:43:08 GMT -5
Nations, just like people, aren't equal. I'm not sure about intellect but most significant the Balkan people have bigger balls than the Danes.
Also, the Dane is wrong, Romanians will never decide on the internal affairs of Denmark, as Europeans we only have the right to decide in the problems of Europe, problems that concern us. "Us" in spite of what he wants to believe, include Romanians, Bulgarians etc as well as Danes although I also think we don't have anything in common with such a strange people.
I don't think Danes should speak in the name of Europe, Europe means Italy and France, the rest just grew eating the leftovers at the table of the aforementioned nations. Denmark itself it's peripheral just like we are, for now.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 5, 2010 17:05:01 GMT -5
LOL!!! The most intelligent Balkanites are those who have been educated outside of the Balkans. The most educated Balkanites are culturally not Balkan at all.
If she is hiding it than clearly it shows that such acts are frowned upon. As if somehow these women cheat anymore than modern Balkan women. As if I want to village moron who only knows how to cook and sit quiet. I actually like some intellectuality in the person I will spend the rest of my life with and most Balkan girls dont have it... however German women and other nordic women do.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 5, 2010 20:54:16 GMT -5
Glad to hear, all the better to keep serbia away from the EU or third reich ;D
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 5, 2010 20:57:20 GMT -5
Germans made ur ppl civilized. Show some respect. Without Germans/Austrians, your rich northern Serbia would be made of huts and straws.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 5, 2010 21:18:23 GMT -5
^ why should l, they are the ones who hung us and played apart in the destruction of Yugoslavia. I know 99.999% of serbs are dying to go into this third reich, l would rather serbia join a club of nations who 'really' want serbia to prosper.
People who haven't learnt from the past will commit the same errors again!.
The Germans didn't make us civilised, its the ottomans who made us uncivilised. Prior to the Ottomans, the Serbs had one of the most advanced cultures in Europe during the time of Emperor Dushan, his Laws were considered to be highly 'advanced'. Prior to Dushans Serbia, the Serbs were struggling to survive because they had Presijam's Bulgars who kept a JEALOUS watch over the serbs and they did all they could to prevent to serbs from prospering. The Bulgars of Presijam's time can be compared to the Germanics of the 19th all the way through to the 21st century.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 5, 2010 21:30:59 GMT -5
Lol, form another Union... with Belorus... lol
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 5, 2010 21:56:59 GMT -5
^ Whatever union but not this third reich.
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Post by Kassandros on Jan 5, 2010 22:03:28 GMT -5
Germans made ur ppl civilized. Show some respect. Without Germans/Austrians, your rich northern Serbia would be made of huts and straws. Again that typical Albanian perception of civilization... pff.. For one more time; Civilization is not BMW, Mercedes, money and Classical music. I still imagine... a German officer.. going in his office in Auswitz with his Mercedes car.. drinking champaign... listening Chopen.. and watching the view from his window; the smoke from chimneys taking out from human bodies. Yeap! Thats civilization! A bre Ghjeki... ;D ;D
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 5, 2010 22:19:05 GMT -5
Who the fuck are u to define what civilization is? Tell me how great the best schools in Greece are? What rank does Selanik "Aristotle" University" have world wide? I bet Japan has greater Universities. Actually, China probably does as well.
In fact, your best school is probably mediocre when it comes to the middle German colleges and doesnt even compare to the top universities in England or USA.
And for that matter, genocides were committed just as horribly by your precious ancient Greeks. In fact their concept of "barbarian" was just as bad as the Nazi concept of inferior race... of which you were a part... for a reason.
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Post by Kassandros on Jan 5, 2010 22:33:16 GMT -5
Who the f**k are u to define what civilization is? Tell me how great the best schools in Greece are? What rank does Selanik "Aristotle" University" have world wide? I bet Japan has greater Universities. Actually, China probably does as well. In fact, your best school is probably mediocre when it comes to the middle German colleges and doesnt even compare to the top universities in England or USA. And for that matter, genocides were committed just as horribly by your precious ancient Greeks. In fact their concept of "barbarian" was just as bad as the Nazi concept of inferior race... of which you were a part... for a reason. In our best school.. maybe you cannot find teachers teaching about solar system the same way an American teacher trained in Nasa teaches... but for sure.. you can find teachers learning their pupils to respect human life more than money. Tell me know.. can you find that in Harvard or in any Anglosaxon University.. or in Gjeckeria? Just a simple question. Toskali.. you're just a byproduct of the cruel American capitalist system you belong to. Faster, stronger, harder. Die if you cannot rich the American dream. Money money money money money... and it fits to your Albanian culture. That is why you admire them. They have money and power. You're just a muslim Albanian. You both fit to eachother. I have never seen you to show admiration to various cultures around the world. You just admire rich guys of the world. Now.. do you still wonder why your forfathers converted so easily without ethos? A bre Gjek.. You're so Gjek.. ;D
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 5, 2010 22:42:29 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 5, 2010 22:59:52 GMT -5
"For one more time; Civilization is not BMW, Mercedes, money and Classical music. I still imagine... a German officer.. going in his office in Auswitz with his Mercedes car.. drinking champaign... listening Chopen.. and watching the view from his window; the smoke from chimneys taking out from human bodies. Yeap! Thats civilization!"
Basil, not too long ago (300yrs ago) the Germans were savages, unorganised scum, killing other germans, but once they found the love for each other they began to prosper. Look at Yugoslavia, now we are the savages killing each other. My point is brother, nations like Bulgaria who keep spiteing other nations instead of working together with them will never help to make our backyard prosper. Imagine if there was a unity like a balkan union, we would have much power in europe.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 6, 2010 0:07:47 GMT -5
Of course, man. I wish you had a wife with that attitude, looking to screw someone before midday just because her husband is already drunk. Plenty of such examples I have witnessed with my own eyes. Really, I hope your future wife will be as open-minded as that. And before you kill her, remember what you have posted here and spare her life. See? You are using tradition again.WIFE.What makes you think someone must or is going to have a wife? Its not for everyone
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Post by dusko1 on Jan 6, 2010 0:31:27 GMT -5
Despite the fact that some of what this man says is true, I can't help but feel that he says it with a typical northern European superiority complex. Honestly, nobody thinks more highly of Nordic people than Nordic people themselves. The way I see it, Balkan people have had to put up with a lot of crap for many centuries. While the rest of Europe were building up their societies in relative peace, we were under Ottomans oppression, then communism, etc. It takes time but I definitely see Balkan countries catching up with the rest of Europe at some time in the future. They are heading in that direction. This is true. People in the Balkans want to move forward. What do you mean by "we are not social human beings'? Yes true we are individualists but we are also very social people. More social than those in northern Europe that's for sure. And you're spot on with that stupid mentality of: "I do not care if I am all right as long as Vute is not all right". I see that with all Balkan & East European nations. Just imagine if we stuck together like Jews how strong & powerful our nations would be, but that's wishful thinking. Sure Balkan people can be somewhat conservative & traditional but that doesn't make us lower than Western or Northern Europeans. And by the way at least our people have balls which is something the Danes & other European nations don't really have. Even though I don't have nothing against others in Western or Northern European countries that's 100% true. We're tough & intelligent people. Give it some time & you'll see Balkan nations prosper.
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donnie
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Post by donnie on Jan 6, 2010 1:15:20 GMT -5
What a retarded comment by the Dane. The Scandinavian prosperity isnt owed to some superior intellect. The level of peace & stability enjoyed in the north has given Scandinavia unparalelled space to develop economically, culturally and politically. Naturally it will enjoy a headstart. The Balkans on the other hand has been devastated by ravaging wars, which was succeeded by communism, which in turn was followed by more wars. Poverty and war will naturally result in a more 'backward' mentality ... more easily manipulated masses, a more fragile democracy, a less stable economy, more corrupt leaders. Tradition gives stability, and Scandinavia has had time to build tradition. Much of the Balkans has only really begun in the 1990s.
Likewise, it is equally retarded to say "Scandinavians have no b@lls like we Balkanians" ... Scandinavians in general are very individualistic, and such dont fall as easy to group pressure as others do. They have a strong level of dignity and will most of the times not hesitate to speak out their mind. If them not being as likely to turn to fists for slightest effrontery makes them "cowards" ... well, that too is the legacy of their peaceful state and education where issues tend to be solved through words rather than violence (most of the times). If they too had been exposed to wars, they wouldnt be any less "tough" than us. Infact, if confronted, they'd whoop a*ss, much like Finland did to Soviet during the winter war.
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Post by insomniac on Jan 6, 2010 1:37:09 GMT -5
At this particular moment and time; the Dane is right.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 6, 2010 3:32:18 GMT -5
Donnie, its probably the very few times l actually happen to agree with you, well said.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 6, 2010 3:50:51 GMT -5
Yes,its not fair to compare to the Balkans with Northern Europe that way,but the truth is,the northern Europeans are progressive and more liberal and open minded than Balkanians and Eastern Europeans in general.
Ok,You can blame the ottomans and the communists as the causes,but what the Dane said is the current reality.
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