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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Jul 19, 2010 4:45:56 GMT -5
Suceava name is not of Hungarian origin, it's another shit promoted by Hungarians like almost everything that involves that pathetic people. Also on Wiki at Suceava page is presented the false thing that Cantemir wrote in Description Moldavie that Suceava is from a Hungarian Sucsvar or something. Here is ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Descrierea_MoldoveiYou can find the book also in Latin as it was written originally in Latin and in a couple of different translations and none presents such a ridiculous thing as Suceava from Sucsvar. Concerning Suceava, Cantemir wrote that the city was named after that of the river Suceava that passes through the city and the fact is there is always the norm that regions and cities are named after the rivers that passes through them and not vice versa. There are a lot of examples in Moldavia, even the name of the country is taken after a river. To bad for Wiki that such pest like Hungarians exists and they foul everything with their nomadic stupidity.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 19, 2010 8:17:56 GMT -5
Botosani In this article it says it was named after Batu Kahn www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/botosani/Botosani.htm - Szatmar is not of Romanian origin, its pure Hungarian. The name satu mare was invented in 1925 so it would have a meaning in romanian (big village). Your historian or whatever he was Cantemar even states that Sucsvar is of Hungarian origin. Catcher in the Rye doesn't use reliable source material. The name is of Hungarian origin, being derived from Szűcsvár which means "Town on the skin-workers", this etymology being given in Dimitrie Cantemir's Descriptio Moldaviae. www.experiencefestival.com/dimitrie_cantemirYour link is really readable, reliable and unbiased, isn't it? Kocsonya (pig feet in gelatin) 2 1/2 or 3 lbs. of small or medium sized pigs feet, scrubbed clean and split 2 medium sized oinions, peeled 2 large carrots, sliced 3 cloves of peeled whole garlic 2 tsp. of Hungarian paprika 2 tsp. of salt 1 Tbs. of mixed spice Put pigs feet into 2 quarts of water and bring to a boil. Throw away water. Wash off feet in cold water. Add another 2 quarts of cold water and the onions, carrots, garlic, paprika, salt and mixed spice. NOTE: If you like a very firm jelly or aspic, add some veal bones when you cook the feet. Cook for about 3 hours or until feet become tender. Keep skimming the water to keep the broth clear. Put feet into a serving dish that will fit into the refrigerator. Strain the broth and then pour over the feet, and chill. Sprinkle with some paprika. Serve with a good hearty bread, pickled peppers and good beer. Its very good.....Don't knock it until you try it
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Jul 19, 2010 9:30:27 GMT -5
Botoşani is a place name formed with the suffix -ani, a Romanian suffix used in many Romanian place names. It's obviously a Romanian place name. Also since there was attested the estates of a boyar named Botoş, the etymology of Botoşani is clear. That what you called "unreliable source" is the very book that supposedly mention Suceava from Suczvar. There is not such thing in that very book so that bulls**t on Wiki is of Hungarian origin. Cantemir did mentioned though that the city Suceava was named after the river Suceava. Also i forgot to wrote the fact that in Romanian Suczvar will never give something close to Suceava but something like Sucioara acording to Temesvar/Timisoara or Segesvar/Sighisoara, so even if Cantemir would have wrote such a thing that would have been wrong but Cantemir was an educated person he didn't make such a ridiculous affirmation. Also, that site: www.experiencefestival.com/dimitrie_cantemirwww.experiencefestival.com/a/Suceava_-_History/id/5493339Adapted from the Wikipedia article "History", under the G.N U Free Docmentation License. Please also see en.wikipedia.org/wikihas as source Wikipedia (hard for a moron to notice though) who in turn has as a source all sort of idiots especially when Hungarians, a puny people who think themselves as the center of Earth (as in fact they are the center of the but hole of the Earth) are involved. BTW, what does Szatmar means in Hungarian if it's a Hungarian name? That name comes in fact from a German colonist called Zothmar. PS Something close to that recipe is called in Romania "răcitură" or "piftie" but we don't use hoofs and paprika but pepper. It's delicious but it's for winter.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 19, 2010 10:00:04 GMT -5
Well with a population of over 90% Magyar when it was given to you historically inept Romanians after WW1, I'd have to say it was a pure Hungarian city. Historical facts are hard for Romanians to swallow. I suggest you study abroad and become a more intelligent and well rounded individual. At least this anittas person seems to have some historical knowledge. btw pigs have no "hoofs"
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Post by lvl100 on Jul 19, 2010 13:34:39 GMT -5
. Historical facts are hard for Romanians to swallow. I suggest you study abroad and become a more intelligent and well rounded individual. btw pigs have no "hoofs" Most even-toed ungulates (such as sheep, goats, deer, cattle, bison and pigs) have two main hooves on each foot, together called a cloven hoof I suggest you study abroad and become a more intelligent and well rounded individual
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Post by dezboy on Jul 19, 2010 16:21:58 GMT -5
wow, did you find that out all by yourself? now put it in your own words. Nobody calls it "Pig hoofs"unless you're some type of hillbilly, in other words "cioban"
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Post by lvl100 on Jul 19, 2010 17:09:49 GMT -5
Have you eat your traditional "pig hoofs" again ? Becouse you surely sound more constipated than usually .
Go watch some Magyar Garda DVD . I `ve heard that they are best substitute for a laxative available on market.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 21, 2010 6:56:09 GMT -5
follow my advice...study abroad, not only history but grammar too
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Post by Anittas on Jul 21, 2010 8:47:03 GMT -5
Ungaro is trying to revive his old flame: the Ro forum.
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Post by lvl100 on Jul 23, 2010 8:06:12 GMT -5
Fat chance. Lezboy doesn't have all the required traits for that.
Sure , you may say , he lacks a lot in the intelligent thought and logical reasoning department. And this as we all know is a good recomandation for a flamer.
But sadly he doesn't have enough imagination to stir up the posters around here.
Like Averil and her posts about how some Austrian lawyer found a way to legally nullify Trianon.
Now that was some fun stuff.
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Post by Anittas on Jul 23, 2010 15:25:27 GMT -5
Chill out, Catalin.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 24, 2010 14:31:55 GMT -5
I came here for a little good natured fun and conversation and all you people do is mock, insult and name call. With replies like the ones above I'm surprised you're even able to spell the word intelligent, I'm outta here, you're all beneath me.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Jul 24, 2010 20:37:06 GMT -5
Hungarians certainly not the centre of the earth.
But on an international level Hungary is known for Gyulas, Budapest, Puskas, Zsa Zsa, Rubix Cube, Paprika, Liszt and several other classical composers,Monica Szeles, Tokaj wine, several Nobel prizewinners in fields of science ,physics,mathematics etc.
Internationaly what is Romania known for besides from the Dracula fairytale and Vampires , and a famous female Gymnast that had a Hungarian coach.
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Post by lvl100 on Jul 24, 2010 23:54:14 GMT -5
Hungarians certainly not the centre of the earth. But on an international level Hungary is known for , Budapest Well it makes sense I guess. It would be a shame for Budapest not to be known since like 90% of Hungary`s population lives and/or works there. Dracula.Stop.In terms of fame abroad is more known than everything Hungary created since Szent Istvan. ;D
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Post by Anittas on Jul 25, 2010 6:49:38 GMT -5
Hungarians certainly not the centre of the earth. But on an international level Hungary is known for Gyulas, Budapest, Puskas, Zsa Zsa, Rubix Cube, Paprika, Liszt and several other classical composers,Monica Szeles, Tokaj wine, several Nobel prizewinners in fields of science ,physics,mathematics etc. Internationaly what is Romania known for besides from the Dracula fairytale and Vampires , and a famous female Gymnast that had a Hungarian coach. Let's not start comparing dick size again. We have known composers as well, such as Enescu and Porumbescu. In the literature field we have Eliade, Ionesco, Tristan Tzara and so on. George Emil Palade received the Nobel Prize in biology... Henri Coanda gave way to the invention of the jet engine. If Hungary is better known to foreigners, it has to do with your ability to better promote your country and the West being more receptive to your culture and achievements.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 25, 2010 11:34:53 GMT -5
I have to interject here again. How can the west be more receptive to Hungarian culture when the language is non indoeuropean and isn't understood anywhere in Europe. I believe the world knows about Hungary because of our achievements and longevity, many Hungarians are world known, while those Romanians you mentioned were great contributors but aren't really known by the average person, only people in your country or in the field. If any of you have read the original Dracula by Stoker, nowhere is he associated with Tepes (we all know who he was in the novel), this is a modern promotion. We really shouldn't compare "dick sizes" because there is no comparison.
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Post by lvl100 on Jul 26, 2010 3:55:52 GMT -5
Erm... so the magnetic properties of atoms researched by Nobel prize winner Isidor Rabi are of Hungarian nature ? Whats the level of "magyarness" in Rubik`s toy ? How much of Zsa Zsa Gabor`s Hollywood movies are filled with Szent Istvan legacy ?
more receptive to Hungarian culture How can you not love this kind of sophism.
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Post by Anittas on Jul 26, 2010 7:26:01 GMT -5
I have to interject here again. How can the west be more receptive to Hungarian culture when the language is non indoeuropean and isn't understood anywhere in Europe. I believe the world knows about Hungary because of our achievements and longevity, many Hungarians are world known, while those Romanians you mentioned were great contributors but aren't really known by the average person, only people in your country or in the field. If any of you have read the original Dracula by Stoker, nowhere is he associated with Tepes (we all know who he was in the novel), this is a modern promotion. We really shouldn't compare "dick sizes" because there is no comparison. It has nothing to do with language--it has to do with image. Eliade is well known in the literature circles in USA. The same can be said about Brancusi and Enescu. Some of those dudes mentioned by Oskar are not that well known and I wouldn't be bragging about Zsa Zsa. Let me put it this way: the Europeans were greatly influenced by the Arabs: poetry, mathematics, philosophy, music theory, medicine, and astronomy were fields that the Arabs mastered and which the Europeans took from. How many Westerners do you think can name a single Arab philosopher or thinker? I'm not going to fight for the attention of the Westerner and his propaganda. It's pathetic. You guys go ahead and dance for the Westerner. Dance, boy, dance!
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Post by oszkarthehun on Jul 26, 2010 8:28:36 GMT -5
To be honest I was just making a retort to AofG's comments bout us puny horrible Hungarians.
its true fame and popularity doesnt always equal greatness a perfect example would be Mcdonalds.
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Post by dezboy on Jul 26, 2010 8:28:56 GMT -5
I think the proper word here is celebrity. There are many more Hungarians and people of Hungarian origin living in the west that have become well known for their accomplishments than Romanians. Propaganda has nothing to do with it, Hungarians are well known here in the United States. There are large Hungarian communities that flourish and contribute to society positively which creates a good image for Hungary.
lvl100 you really have serious hangups about Hungarians. Your replies speak volumes, and to tell you the truth, I can't think of a single Romanian that carries on the legacy of buribesta. I'm sorry Hungary doesn't fit into your little category of obscurity like Romania and Bulgaria
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