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Post by Anittas on Sept 16, 2010 13:52:17 GMT -5
U know what i think Oszkar? I think the Hungarian armies were making a big mistakes using symestrical tactics, they should of use the asymestrical tactics, using more of guerilla-partisan warfare, the hit and run tactics. Because the Romanian armies were bigger in numbers, so therefore, guerilla could of work. In this way, Hungarians would have the chance to organise and increase their morality. Guerilla warfare works good in certain terrains and when your territory is occupied. If the Hungarians would've used that tactic in Transylvania, Romania could've advanced towards the Pannonian plains and force you to make a stand. Then you would've fought a guerilla war in both Transylvania and Hungary proper. Lolz.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Sept 16, 2010 18:03:57 GMT -5
Hit and run may have been better option, or perhaps even fighting defensive tactic waiting for the Romanians to attack.
Hungarian troops were at a disadvantage in that they lacked experienced soldiers. Much of the troops were made up of newly recruited volunteers.
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Post by wbb on Sept 17, 2010 1:31:14 GMT -5
ur right on that one, it wouldnt work on cities, that for bloody sure. guerilla warfare in cities is consider as Urban guerilla. But apart from that Hungary at that time did have enough perfect terrains to wage it. Well Hungarian territories were occupied, Romania and her little entente allies were occupying it, supported by the Frenchy fries. I dont think so Annitas, the Romanian armies tactic was the occupy and hold based on a 100% trench warfare system, dont forget it was still 1919, and most battles in WW1 was based on that tactics. The Austrians were occupying Sopron, and they used that tactics as well, the muslims in Hungarian uniform was playing a big part of it, liberating Sopron. Their Jihad was based on hit and run and the Allah Akbar destroy the disbelievers sentiment in which had been succeeded. Hasnt the muslims play their part, Sopron for sure would be under Austria by now. Anyway, i get some source about this. I dont think Romania would've been able to stand all that pressure coming from the guerilla warfare if that was carried out by the Hungarians. That pressure could causes chaos and anarchy throuhout Romania. Oszkar, if much of those troops were made of newly recruited volunteers then they shouldnt be serving as regular troops, their irregularity was the strongest that they should've been recruited as irregular units like Partisan or guerillas.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 17, 2010 15:08:01 GMT -5
You couldn't have waged a guerilla war. The Bulgarians tried that before WW1 and they had the terrain to their advantage. We kicked their ass. We would've kicked your ass, as well. We would've felt no pressure. No matter how you look at it, your ass was destined to be kicked by us.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Sept 17, 2010 23:14:09 GMT -5
You couldn't have waged a guerilla war. The Bulgarians tried that before WW1 and they had the terrain to their advantage. We kicked their ass. We would've kicked your ass, as well. We would've felt no pressure. No matter how you look at it, your ass was destined to be kicked by us. Considering Romania was fighting a predominantly ragtag poorly trained volunteer army under an unstable Gov that even the French predicted was bound to implode it is not completly suprising. In the end during that time the Romanian army was famously remembered the most for one thing their oppurtunistic thievery and robbery in Budapest.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 18, 2010 3:57:16 GMT -5
You keep repeating the same shit over and over again. I told you: that was in retaliation for your looting of Bucharest in WW1. We looted from your heavy industry and infrastructure, such as locomotives. We didn't rob some old lady. We should've looted all your women and let you homos rule Pannonia by yourself. Now stfu.
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Post by wbb on Sept 18, 2010 4:05:36 GMT -5
Kicked by us? It was Romania's decision to pull out their troops from Hungary cause they feared that Horthy's regime which was a much more organised regime than Kun's communist regime was about to wage a guerilla against the Romanian troops. Of course Romanians made their propaganda that they help to install Horthy's regime in power which is bs, because Romanians never wanted any patriotic-nationalist in power. Romanian occupation of Budapest in 1919 what had actually provoked the nationalist Hungarians to resist against the foreign troops. So the Romanians had feared the rise in resistance and upcoming militancy cause by those nationalist Horthy regimes, therefore Romania quickly pulled their troops out of Hungary.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 18, 2010 4:30:13 GMT -5
No, fool. We didn't want to leave, but the Western powers started to threaten us. Those that you say were our allies. Otherwise, we would've remained there ad infinitum.
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Post by diurpaneus on Sept 18, 2010 5:42:42 GMT -5
This thread needs more Austria, the same Austria that gave Hungary civilization.
From 1301 Hungary has been led by franco-germanic, polish and bohemic dynasties. Oszkar, lazboy, ungaro... your country was civilized by germans. Better accept the truth and stop bragging about the "role of Hungary in this part of Europe". If your kings weren't franco-germans you would be as backwards as Bulgaria.
And Sopron belongs to Austria so gief it back pl0x.
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Post by dezboy on Sept 18, 2010 7:20:40 GMT -5
anita and catcher, you 2 are the fools. Do you think because your little army was on the eastern bank of the Tisza that you weren't on Hungarian soil? You were on our territory when you first stepped foot into Transylvania as invaders, so you provoked any attack and started the conflict. The only threats that were made, were to Kun and his communists, to lay down their arms or face invasion. How easy it is to say that you beat Hungary in 1919 when you had czechs occupying northern Hungary, and serbs southern Hungary, with a backup of french troops just in case. So you were hardly alone. Read Paris 1919, its an unbiased account of the treaties. its very unflattering, it describes Kun and the shape of his communist army and it perfectly describes Bratianu and the Romanians, read it if you dare.
So diurpaneus, you say Sopron belongs to Austria....Sopron was the only area that held a legal plebiscite after WW1 were the population was able to vote and decide which country they wanted to belong to...its called self determination. If it would have been allowed in Transylvania all those beautiful cities Romanians like to brag about would still belong to Hungary. You know jack-s**t about history.
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Post by wbb on Sept 18, 2010 7:37:21 GMT -5
yeah sure, that's a 100% bs. Ur allies never supported Hungary, they were controlled by the dikhead freemasons, even Kun Bela himself was a freemason. And like i said, if Romania stayed there longer, romanian armies would have face much pressure from the hungarians. Loool Diurpy bacsi is still talking about Austria garbage again. Austria never gave Hungary civilisation, Austria brought Germanisation to Hungary. It was the Turks that gave civilisation to Hungary. All Austria did, was bringing all that low ethnics garbage into the country. Franco-Germans contributed nothing to Hungary but the disease of Pan-Europeanism into the spirit of Hungarian people. And Bulgaria isnt backwards as u may think, Romania is more backwards than Bulgaria. Being under the Ottoman dynasty who accepted Szapolyai was far more better than any other dynasty. Szapolyai was the only patriotic hungarian noble during the Kingdom of Hungary's history, the rest was all garbage. Sopron will never belongs to Austria, the same how Istanbul will never belongs to Greece. It's ours forever. Even the Austrians that lived in Sopron wanted to remain in Hungary rather than Austria. Sopron is known as the most loyal city of Hungary.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Sept 18, 2010 9:29:37 GMT -5
hehe Anittas its kind of entertaining to hear you getting your knickers in a knot, ok how about this then ...
oh yes you mighty brave gallant and fearless Romanians the greatest soldiers to come out of Europe what an unbelievable job you did in 1919 all by yourselves to get the better of Hungary who had never been stronger.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Sept 18, 2010 9:36:35 GMT -5
Hungary was ruled by Arpad dynasty for 300 hundred years if it wasnt for that dynasty Hungary would not have been one of the most powerful nations in the region at the time , some of those Central and West Euro Kings that later ruled Hungary also had Arpad lineage Royal Hungarian blood in the veins from ancestral intermarriages.
As for Sopron the Hungarians and the Austrians there decided to stay with Hungary.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 18, 2010 9:56:44 GMT -5
Man, you declare war on us and then moan about being weaker. Well, freaks, don't declare war then! We kicked your ass in the Middle Ages with out peasant army. And you had knights and s**t. Then again, we also kicked Teutonic ass, so there you go.
wbb, bring your ass over here. I promise I won't kick it. I'll just stimulate it to this song:
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Post by diurpaneus on Sept 18, 2010 10:32:48 GMT -5
So diurpaneus, you say Sopron belongs to Austria....Sopron was the only area that held a legal plebiscite after WW1 were the population was able to vote and decide which country they wanted to belong to...its called self determination. If it would have been allowed in Transylvania all those beautiful cities Romanians like to brag about would still belong to Hungary. You know jack-s**t about history. Barbarian! Give Oedenburg back to Austria now. It's a part of Burgenland! Austria turned Hungary into a civilized region of it's empire and now you ungrateful twat throw mud in Austria's name. That's right, Hungary was just a REGION in the Habsburg Empire. Learn to live with it.
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Post by dezboy on Sept 18, 2010 11:06:41 GMT -5
Bela Kun's communist army attacked invaders, like any normal country would. Except Romania, you bowed to the invading Turks as you did to the soviets. I can't recall one instance where Romanians fought for their freedom and independence. Oh, Posada you say....Those Cumans had to lead the way as did Tokes.
diurpaneus read Paris 1919, you'll learn history, yeah, Hungarians will give back Sopron, when you (Romanians) give back Arad, Kolozsvar, Nagyvarad, Szatmar, Brasso, Marosvasarhely, Temesvar, Szegesvar, Nagyszeben and the countless villages that were all Hungarian majority. Who gave Romania civilization? you're still waiting.
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Post by wbb on Sept 18, 2010 11:53:39 GMT -5
lol what a funny dude, hey everyone, we got an anti-Turk crusader here!!! He is still want to kick my TURK ass even if the blood of Attila the Hun flows through my vein. Annitas, name me a place buddy. loool I wouldnt risk it if i were u, u even admited that u got Cuman, Pecheneg, Hungarian blood on ya. So that wouldnt be a Hungarian vs Romanian battle, but a traditional Turk vs Roman-Romanyised Turk battle based on pure tribal and clanish mentality. Rather u have to give up being ROMAN and re-TURK yourself by accepting the philosophy of Turanism This is my response to Annitas.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 18, 2010 13:27:36 GMT -5
I don't know what you dudes smoke, but I want some of it too. Ungaro, you lowclass trash (lolz)... you know very well we fought the Turks on and off for 500 years. When you make these crazy lies, you lose all credibility. If you don't know how to tell lies and how to manipulate, then tell the truth instead.
WBB, I'm flattered that you want me to be your brother, but no: I got no Hungarian blood in me. Not that that would be a bad thing.
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Post by dezboy on Sept 19, 2010 10:41:55 GMT -5
This ungaro, is this some kind of infatuation? who is he?. So with the Turks it must have been off again, since you were under their thumb until the 1870s. Tell me why do you hate the Russians now? They gave you northern Transylvania in 45, They taught you communism real well. You fought side by side in WW2, you provided them tanks,weapons and access to Hungary in the 56 revoloution. Why do Romanians bite the hand that feeds them?
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Post by Anittas on Sept 19, 2010 13:55:30 GMT -5
I don't hate Russians. In fact, I like them. I have a Russian pal and all the Russians I met were really nice to me. Then again, Russians and Romanians have the ability to seperate politics from everything else.
Now that I think of it, the Hungarians I met were also very nice. When I arrived at the Prague airport, I called a taxi. The driver was Hungarian. We spoke about our countries and shit and when I arrived at the hotel, he wanted to give me a discount. I refused and gave him a nice tip instead. We departed as great friends.
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