Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 24, 2010 17:51:48 GMT -5
Do Tourkoalbs wear a fustanella..... What does fustanella mean in Albanian and did Kastrioti wear one?
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 24, 2010 17:53:48 GMT -5
hahaha like Karagiozides image !!
Fustanella is a Greek costume not Albanian !!
Fustanellas !! translate Greece wearing kilt !!
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Post by bato2 on Oct 24, 2010 18:00:47 GMT -5
Do Tourkoalbs wear a fustanella..... What does fustanella mean in Albanian and did Kastrioti wear one? Got angry, old man?.... First Fustanella- fustan(dress in Albanian) About Scanderbeg we have to ask his personal photographer if he's got any pictures of him wearing fustanelle   From Illyrian tomb |
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Post by logjiktek on Oct 24, 2010 18:02:00 GMT -5
I'm just curious, do Pontic Greeks wear the fustanella?
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Post by bato2 on Oct 24, 2010 18:03:44 GMT -5
hahaha like Karagiozides image !! Fustanela is a Greek costume not Albanian !! Again Karta....you got knocked down with facts, documents and proves Go and do your homework now....stop being amateur all your life C'mon man you can do better than that  |
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Post by bato2 on Oct 24, 2010 18:07:56 GMT -5
I'm just curious, do Pontic Greeks wear the fustanella? Here you have the Pontic traditional dress, similar with Nisiotiko and Cretan(That was very common in Greece before they borrowed from Albanians)  |
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 24, 2010 18:11:48 GMT -5
are they of turkish minority? they look turkish
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Post by bato2 on Oct 24, 2010 18:15:04 GMT -5
Pontic from Georgia or Armenia
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 24, 2010 18:21:35 GMT -5
are they a recognised minority group?...let me rephrase, is there any such thing as a recognised minority group in greece?
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 24, 2010 18:24:23 GMT -5
Fustanella is a Greek costume not Albanian !!Fustanellas !! <Etymology> or translate Kilt of Greece,Greek kilt or Greece,Greek men wearing kilt !!
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Post by mansterofsouli on Oct 24, 2010 18:33:58 GMT -5
I'm just curious, do Pontic Greeks wear the fustanella? To answer your question, YES! Some did wear the foustanella I believe. Check out the videos below of Pontians wearing foustanella. SERIOUSLY LOOK AT ALL THESE PONTOI WEARING FOUSTANELLA! |
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Post by donnie on Oct 24, 2010 19:12:47 GMT -5
LOL. Logjiktek asks whether Pontians wore the fustanella. Manster first answers;
then, in the very next sentence;
;D ;D
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Post by mansterofsouli on Oct 24, 2010 19:15:49 GMT -5
Hey, I am no expert on the topic unlike you self proclaimed Albo historians as if Albo and historian can mentioned in the same sentence. I provided some videos with Pontians wearing foustanella. I did my part in trying to help an Albanian member find out if Pontic Greeks wore foustanella. I believe the answer is yes as is shown in the videos of Pontoi wearing foustanella.
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Post by mansterofsouli on Oct 24, 2010 19:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 24, 2010 19:26:04 GMT -5
bato2 your are knocked out Goodbye Propagandist of FUSTAN-ELLAS Fustanella is a Greek costume not Albanian !!Fustanellas !! <Etymology> or translate Kilt of Greece,Greek kilt or Greece,Greek men wearing kilt !! |
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Post by bato2 on Oct 24, 2010 19:48:52 GMT -5
Karta you remind me those bad deja vu songs that play in the radio repeatedly
Lord Byron:
“The Arnauts, or Albanese, struck me forcibly by their resemblance to the Highlanders of Scotland, in dress, figure and manner of living. The kilt, though white; the spare, active form; their dialect, Celtic in sound, and their habits, all carried me back to Motven.
No nation are so detested and dreaded by their neighbours as the Albanians;
“The fustanella, or white kilt, of the traditional Albanian is as
common in the streets of Athens as the private soldier’s uniform in London”
(The classic and the beautiful from the literature of three thousand years – Page 395
by Henry Coppée – Juvenile Nonfiction – 1895 page 395)
“The philhellenes of America, Britain and Western Europe had called for a free Greek state in a romantic passionate attempt to bring to life the Hellenic culture of the past. Little did any of them know of what extreme changes had taken place in the region of what was once the Greek City States. ‘Naturally, many travelers and philhellenes were shocked at the Greeks’ lack of sophistication, and the ABSENCE OF A PHYSICAL RESEMBLANCE TO THE HELLENES of their classical imagination”.
~”The Balkans, Nationalism, War and the Great Powers” by Misha Glenny, page 33
“Throughout Rumelia, the Peloponnese and the islands, there were large Albanian communities –most of them Orthodox Christians althoug Muslim Albanians predominated in the Epirot centre of the rebel pasha, Ali Pasha”
(’The Balkans, Nationalism, War and the great Powers’, page 25)
This myth required excavators on the Acropolis during the 19th century to erase Ottoman traces and purify the site as the crucible of classicism. The Erechtheion had been a harem, the Parthenon a mosque. “But Greek archaeology has always been a kind of fantasy,” Antonis Liakos, a leading Greek historian, noted the other day. The repatriation argument, relying on claims of historical integrity, itself distorts history.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 24, 2010 20:00:03 GMT -5
Greek 1234 sou dino prothesmia na diorthosis to lathos sou gia pia notia Albania mou milas more otan proketai gia tin Epirus pou mas tin f*gane oi albanoi !! bato2 you don't need to repeat again with false proves !! it's called Fustanella ;D  Fustanellas - Kilt of Greecebato2: accept it you are albanians who wearing greek mode fustanella and like to sing and dance greek music and resample the greek freedom fighter of 1821 !! copy and falsification of greek history is in action !!
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Post by greek1234 on Oct 24, 2010 20:09:48 GMT -5
It seems the issue of the origins foustanella is debatable. Someone really need to clear things up. One thing that annoyed me was, one of the Albanians posted a page from a book that mentions some guy called Colocotronis, and that he was an Albanian.
If your talking about the great Theodorus Kolokotronis from the Morea this is an insult. The black mustached Kolokotronis was Greek inside out. His origins had nothing to do with Arvanites or Vlachs. He was Greek one hundred per cent. Please have some respect for the man, he is a national hero in the Morea.
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Post by mansterofsouli on Oct 24, 2010 20:34:29 GMT -5
^^^^
Dude they think any great hero of Greece worth mentioning was Albanian. They have what the world calls "illusions of grandeur".
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 25, 2010 0:43:10 GMT -5
It seems the issue of the origins foustanella is debatable. Someone really need to clear things up. One thing that annoyed me was, one of the Albanians posted a page from a book that mentions some guy called Colocotronis, and that he was an Albanian. If your talking about the great Theodorus Kolokotronis from the Morea this is an insult. The black mustached Kolokotronis was Greek inside out. His origins had nothing to do with Arvanites or Vlachs. He was Greek one hundred per cent. Please have some respect for the man, he is a national hero in the Morea. i think that if you conduct some serious unbiased research and ignore the propaganda bullsht on either side you will find that fustanella is a tosk traditional costume and kolokotroni was of albanian stock, whether he regarded himself as a greek or lived life like one is of no importance to me, we are talking are origins. there are foreign respectable authors that have written these things and i have enough sense to look past regional squabblings and listen to an external source for the truth |
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Fustanellas - Kilt of Greece