Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 9, 2011 19:11:50 GMT -5
I see you have given up also... by insulting me... I knew Albanians can't converse without insults.. it's the only way to take the spotlight off the subject..which is there is no proof of you before 1200..Adios amigos... you have been relegated to the loony bin too...
Anyone else want to take a crack at it?
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Post by Duke John on Apr 9, 2011 19:21:26 GMT -5
I see you have given up also... by insulting me... I knew Albanians can't converse without insults.. it's the only way to take the spotlight off the subject..which is there is no proof of you before 1200..Adios amigos... you have been relegated to the loony bin too... Anyone else want to take a crack at it? I made it clear in this thread, you have been disproved, have a nice day. |
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Apr 9, 2011 21:48:18 GMT -5
That's what your mother is not me. you are a mixture of the entire balkans. Prove it... Bring here an Anthropologists or Geneticists who say so... |
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 9, 2011 22:32:22 GMT -5
It's so easy.... when there's nothing written about you.... I feel sad..Oh well.....
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Post by albo7 on Apr 9, 2011 22:53:07 GMT -5
Who cares? Really, if we are or we are not. It does not make a difference in my life. lol
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 9, 2011 23:34:02 GMT -5
Who cares? Really, if we are or we are not. It does not make a difference in my life. lol True... it's what you make out of your life that counts. |
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Apr 10, 2011 3:36:14 GMT -5
let me contribute...
My girlfriend invited me to her house. I found her sister alone in the house, she was unbelievably sexy and whispered in my ear, "I have feelings for you, shall we have sex?", I immediately turned around and walked to the front door to go to my car. I found my girlfriend standing there, she hugged me and said: "You've won my trust"....... Moral of the story: always keep your condoms in the car..
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Apr 10, 2011 9:35:28 GMT -5
My girlfriend invited me to her house. I found her sister alone in the house, she was unbelievably sexy and whispered in my ear, "I have feelings for you, shall we have sex?", I immediately turned around and walked to the front door to go to my car. I found my girlfriend standing there, she hugged me and said: "You've won my trust"....... Moral of the story: always keep your condoms in the car..
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Post by bato2 on Apr 12, 2011 5:58:55 GMT -5
Again another moronic thread...Will be moved to Balkan Circus
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on May 15, 2011 7:37:17 GMT -5
Alexander the Great wearing a kind of fustanella that is ancient Greek and not "albanian", there was not any "albania" in the Blakans/Haimos back then, there was only one Albania in the Caucasos area, from were the "Illyrians" also migrated in the Balkans.  The Caucasian race spread towards all directions. In the peninsula of Balkans/ Haimos becomes known as the Illyrian nation. (photo from "The origin of the
Hellenes" by the Ethnologist Demetrios P. Demopoulos).Albanians are from the Caucasus, originally. Caucasian Albania The Albanicus or ARNAUTICUS as they have been known !!Whether the albanians are the descendants of Illyrians is a matter of*great debate, it is questianable and controversial. Some Albanians nationalists and fanatics would like to think so however. Similarly the Slav Skopians, would like to think that they are macedonians, Turks would like to think they are Europeans and several other ridiculus misconceptions. The common element between all those races is that they are currently occupying Greek land; with the Turks occupying the majority of Greek land. Historians know that Albanians came from the Caspian Sea, near Caucasus. And that they mixed with Illyrians. Of course, Albanians tend to overlook that detail and assume they descent directly from Illyrians. The Albanians are from the Caucasus, originally. Caucasian Albania was located on the eastern area of the Caucasus between the Caspian sea and the tips of the mountain ranges. Old Albania was known only for wild dogs and baren snow covered mountains, for which it received the name Albania by foreigners (Alba-white). One of the GREATEST PROOFS that Albanians do come from the Caucasus and that THEY ARE NOT the descendants of the Ancient Illyrians is the Turkish name for the Albanians. "Arnauti", which means "those who have not returned" in Arabic, for the Turks were aware of the origins of the Albanians. And they truly did not return, they stayed in Serbian and Byzantine lands. In turn, the Albanians did not use any of those names for themselves, but called themselves "shqiptari". The word "shqip" has many meanings in Albanian. It can mean "eagle" or "rocky hill". Austro-Hungarian anthropologists and philologists in early last century attempted to give the Albanians a noble character nd theorized that the "eagle" was the root meaning and totally ignored both modern Albania and Caucasian Albania as rocky, baren and poor places, which would allude to the notion of the former as being the root meaning for naming themselves. Is this just a greater Serbian quasi-history to cover up the noble Illyrian roots of Albanians? Not according to a contemporary od Maniakos, the Byzantine ruler who brought the Albanians to northern Epirus. Michael Ataliotos describes the events in his chronicle: "Historia, Corpus Scriptorum Historiae Byzantinae. Impensis ed. Neberi, Bonnae". In the republic of Georgia, in the Caucasus, on the terriory of the former Caucasian Albania, from where the Avar Khanate once had its capital, there is a village named: "Arnauti". This is the name by which Serbs, Greeks, Turks, Fyromians and Montenegrin Serbs refer to Albanians in their respective langauges. There is also village in Georgia named "Bushati" - which is the name of an Albanian tribe ("fis") around Lake Skadar. There are three villages named: "Geguti", "Gegeni" and "Gegi". "Ghegheni" is the name designated to Albanians who live north of the Shkumbi River in Albania proper. The Albanians call themselves "Shqip-tari". This name is not Indo-European in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix "ar" or "tar". Much like: "Khaz-AR", "Av-AR", "Magy-AR", "Bulg-AR", "Hung-AR", "Ta-TAR" - "Ship-TAR". Taken together with the Shqiptar-Albanian toponyms on the territory of the former Caucasian Albania, this theory on the etymology of "Shqipatr" becomes more plausable. When Aleander the Great conquered Asia minor, he took with him the great leader of the Albanian tribes and gave him as a present an Albanian dog. Among other things, Caucasian Albania did not attract conquerors, because of its poverty and difficult terrain. With the comming of the Arabs, they converted the Old Albanians in the 8th century to Islam. But meanwhile, at the time, the Arabs were waging campaigns in Sicily, dividing it into two parts, (hence there was the Kingom of the two Sicilies). In order to populate their part of Sicily, the Arabs brought with them Old Albanians from the Caucasus. To this day, their descendants live in Sicily. Then in 1042, the Byzantine Empire attacked the yong Serbian state after having defeated the Arabs in Sicily and having brought the Sicilian Albanians under their command and christianizing them. The leader of the Byzantines who led the Albanians was named Georgius Maniakos. Maniakos brought Albanian mercenaries from Sicily to fight the Serbs and they settled in two waves in modern day Albania, first the mercanaries came, and then came the women and children. After the defeat of Maniakos, the Byzantines would not let the Albanians return, thus the Albanians requested that the Serbs let them stay on the land. They settled under mount Raban and the city of Berat and from this, the Serbs called them "Rabanasi" or "Arbanasi". The city of Berat was known as Belgrad also, before the Albanians came to settle there. They mostly tended sheep and cattle and lent themselves out to Serbian nobles as brave soldiers. The original URAL-ALTAIC speaking Caucasian Shqiptar-Albanians were part of the AVAR KHANATE which had one of its early capitals in Caucasian Albania (hence Albanian topnyms there, the possible Ural-Altaic etymology of the suffix in the word "Shqip-tar" and the similarities in national costume with Caucasian peoples - the non-Indo-European Georgians, in particular). The original Shqiptar-Albanian group of AVARS settled in Northern Romania and subjugated the Latin speaking peoples of that area when the Avars entered Europe and conquered most of its Eastern part. Over time they assimilated most of the Latin language of the people they conquered, but imposed their name on their new subjects - just like the Bulg-AR tribe did in Thrace. This explains why modern Albanian has simmilarities to the Romance languages of Romania. This Ship-tar Av-ar tribe, I believe, moved south as far as Epirus from where the Avars are recorded as staging their failed attack on Constantinople. So, by the time the Avar Khanate was defeated by the armies of Serbs and Croats and Charles the Great in the 7th century, the Avars had reached south as far as EPIRUS from where they based this failed attack on Constantinople!!! In Epirus, this Shqiptar-Avar tribe assimilated the Illyrians and Hellens of Epirus, as they had done to the Latin speakers of Northern Romania more than a century earlier. While the Avars were driven out of Europe by Charles the Great and killed off by Serbs and Croats in the Balkans in the 7th century, the Serbs NEVER REACHED the south of the Shkumbi until the LATE DARK AGES. The Shqiptar-Avars in Epirus and south of the Shkumbi were left unharmed. Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. - Euripedes (480 ? 406 BC).
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Post by Hellenas on May 30, 2011 14:53:48 GMT -5
Carleton Stevens Coon: The Asiatic Dinarics, who appeared early in the Metal Age, were apparently Alpine-Cappadocian hybrids; many of those went to Europe and settled in widely separated places, including sections of the Dinaric Alps.So the Asiatic Dinarics of Albania and of the Dinaric Alps, were Alpine-Cappadocian hybrids who settled in widely separated places of Europe. They were both Asiatics and Cappadocians, meaning modern "turks". the principle of hybrid inheritance which produces Dinarics in Europe has also produced Papuans in New Guinea, the Arii aristocrats in Polynesia, and many American Indians. It is to be noted that among these Dinarics, patently the descendants of pre-Germanic and pre-Slavic mountain peoples.So the Dinarics were pre-Slavic mountain peoples and they were there before the Slavs of Albania. Who is not mixed with Slavs now? The Albanian language, a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements, reflects the ethnically composite origin of the Albanians. The composite racial origin of the Albanians as Carleton Coon says is that of a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements. Who is not mixed now? carnby.altervista.org/troe/12-13.htm |
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Post by Hellenas on May 30, 2011 14:54:10 GMT -5
A nice video for Albanians:
And a funny one:
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 31, 2011 3:34:27 GMT -5
Carleton Stevens Coon:Greeks are the mulattos of europe, probality mixed with ethopians, turks, gypsies and armenians. Some whiteness got from Albanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians and Vllachs. carnby.altervista.org/troe/12-34.htm
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Post by Anittas on May 31, 2011 5:13:07 GMT -5
Albanians are not Illyrian, but they hail from them. Enough with this lousy propaganda. They are native to this region. Deal with it.
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Post by Hellenas on May 31, 2011 14:35:01 GMT -5
The only mulattos here are the moslem alibabanians, Carleton Stevens Coon never said anything of what you posted about the Greeks and you can't prove anything of what you say, therefore you are just a liar, while I posted exactly what C.S.C said about albanians. PrijesDardanian you fall in the category of those who say(without proving anything) that most of Greeks are mixed racially...Nazis, some Turks, Scopjans(never "Macedonians"), Sionists, Leftists, some north-western Europeans etc, they just are anthropo-trash as well, they do not represent the Scientific world.The peoples of Balkans/Haimos, of Anatolia, Caucasos, central and southern Italy, Spain and Portugal, parts of northern Africa and even parts of north-eastern Europe always had pale/white skin color:Skin Color Map from Coon circa 1982. From "Racial Adaptations", 1982.  |
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Post by Hellenas on May 31, 2011 21:01:44 GMT -5
Albanians are not illyrians:
Modern Albanian Historians prove that Albanians are not Illyrians:
Albanians are actually Arabs (German documentary):
(Funny video for Albanians.)
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Post by terroreign on Jun 1, 2011 23:16:08 GMT -5
it's all a big joke, this thread should be destroyed
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Post by Hellenas on Jun 2, 2011 0:25:27 GMT -5
Thanks God you are not a moderator here, the thread must stay, start thinking of free speech as well...
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Post by terroreign on Jun 5, 2011 1:46:55 GMT -5
hellenas im sorry i am not so democratic in this situation. but these kinds of threads feel more like hate speech attempted to be justified with facts and numbers
what really defines a european anyway? do you consider israel to be asia? do you know in the USA 'asians' mean strictly those of the mongolic race? what if these mongolic nations attempted to delegitimize the caucasoid asians and say they are not asians but europeans?
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Post by ushtari on Jun 5, 2011 6:00:09 GMT -5
Carleton Stevens Coon: The Asiatic Dinarics, who appeared early in the Metal Age, were apparently Alpine-Cappadocian hybrids; many of those went to Europe and settled in widely separated places, including sections of the Dinaric Alps.So the Asiatic Dinarics of Albania and of the Dinaric Alps, were Alpine-Cappadocian hybrids who settled in widely separated places of Europe. They were both Asiatics and Cappadocians, meaning modern "turks". the principle of hybrid inheritance which produces Dinarics in Europe has also produced Papuans in New Guinea, the Arii aristocrats in Polynesia, and many American Indians. It is to be noted that among these Dinarics, patently the descendants of pre-Germanic and pre-Slavic mountain peoples.So the Dinarics were pre-Slavic mountain peoples and they were there before the Slavs of Albania. Who is not mixed with Slavs now? The Albanian language, a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements, reflects the ethnically composite origin of the Albanians. The composite racial origin of the Albanians as Carleton Coon says is that of a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements. Who is not mixed now? carnby.altervista.org/troe/12-13.htmLittle greek, why do you take texts completely out of context? wich you cant even comprehend? Coon does nowhere state that Albanians are racially asiatic dinarics, on the contrary, he clearly states that Albanains are Dinarics in the classic and proper sense.  "Mountains of Giants: A Racial and Cultural Study of the North Albanian Mountain Ghegs - Carleton s Coon, p.61" |
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