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Post by terroreign on Sept 14, 2011 1:01:52 GMT -5
^do you want a baby? albanians like offering babies for income
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Post by Moe Lester on Sept 14, 2011 1:45:58 GMT -5
albanians aren't illyrian either, they're a creole nation The closest thing to Illyrians in the Balkans are the Albanians.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 14, 2011 8:19:30 GMT -5
At the same time, they come from Caucasian Arran aka modern day Azerbaijan those God damn Muhammed Alis!
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Post by darkness on Sept 14, 2011 10:16:51 GMT -5
At the same time, they come from Caucasian Arran aka modern day Azerbaijan those God damn Muhammed Alis! says the dark asian boerka wearing nutjob
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Post by darkness on Sept 14, 2011 10:18:56 GMT -5
^do you want a baby? albanians like offering babies for income how can i argue with a retard now?
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Post by darkness on Sept 14, 2011 10:20:29 GMT -5
offcourse you are LOL now go to bed Offer me hot Albanian girl, then I'd go to bed. do you depend on me to get a girl?that's sad dude,really danm sad
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Post by mordid2 on Sept 14, 2011 15:09:19 GMT -5
^do you want a baby? albanians like offering babies for income how can i argue with a retard now? Saying Albanians are Illyrian make you retard.
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Post by mordid2 on Sept 14, 2011 15:10:51 GMT -5
Offer me hot Albanian girl, then I'd go to bed. do you depend on me to get a girl?that's sad dude,really danm sad True, no girl likes you because you're fat turk that smell like kebab. Not very cool.
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Post by greek1234 on Sept 15, 2011 7:08:43 GMT -5
The closest thing to the ancient Illyrians are the Serbs.
The Albanians entered the Balkans in the 11th to 12th century - that is the earliest.
Albanians never had there own medieval kingdom like the Greeks/ Byzantines - The Serbs or the Bulgarians. The Albanians came out of no were. They are a pseudo creation based on lies and propaganda.
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Post by Moe Lester on Sept 15, 2011 7:22:19 GMT -5
Albanians lived in the general Balkan area before Slavs.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 15, 2011 12:38:53 GMT -5
At the same time, they come from Caucasian Arran aka modern day Azerbaijan those God damn Muhammed Alis! says the dark asian boerka wearing nutjob Yeah i'm so dark with my light tanned skin light hazel eyes and medium brunette hair what a Paki
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Post by uz on Sept 27, 2011 21:37:57 GMT -5
albanians aren't illyrian either, they're a creole nation The closest thing to Illyrians in the Balkans are the Albanians. According to linguist V. Georgiev, the theory of an Illyrian origin for the Albanians is weakened by a lack of any Albanian names before the 12th century and the relative absence of Greek influence that would surely be present if the Albanians inhabited their homeland continuously since ancient times.[62] According to Georgiev if the Albanians originated near modern-day Albania, the number of Greek loanwords in the Albanian language should be higherMany linguists have tried to link Albanian with Illyrian, but without clear results.[61][64] Albanian belongs to the satem group within Indo-European language tree, while there is a debate whether Illyrian was centum or satem. On the other hand, Dacian[64] and Thracian[65] seem to belong to satem. Additionally, more recent research suggests that there was a process of satemization by which non-satem languages slowly acquired characteristics, and this characteristic has found parallels in the modern development of many Western European languages. For example, in terms of the pronunciation of the word for one hundred ("centum" kɛntʊm in Latin and "satem" satəm in Avestan, an Ancient Iranian language- hence the names for the isogloss), French could be considered semi-satemized, as the pronunciation of French cent, sɑ̃t, is actually closer to "satem" than "centum"There is a lack of clear archaeological evidence for a continuous settlement of an Albanian-speaking population since Illyrian times. For example, while Albanians scholars maintain that the Komani-Kruja burial sites support the Illyrian-Albanian continuity theory, most scholars reject this and consider that the remains indicate a population of Romanized Illyrians who spoke a Romance language(AADmin has a thread on this). Recently, some Albanian archeologists have also been moving away from describing the Komani-Kruja culture as a proto-Albanian cultureand the list goes on...
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Post by Moe Lester on Sept 28, 2011 2:20:55 GMT -5
^It sure does.
The national name Albania is derived from Albanoi,[45][46][47] an Illyrian tribe mentioned by Ptolemy about 150 A.D.
From what we know from the old Balkan populations territories (Greeks, Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians), Albanian language is spoken in the same region where Illyrian was spoken in ancient times.[48]
There is no evidence of any major migration into Albanian territory since the records of Illyrian occupation.[49]
Many of what remain as attested words to Illyrian have an Albanian explanation and also a number of Illyrian lexical items (toponyms, hydronyms, oronyms, anthroponyms, etc.) have been linked to Albanian.[50]
Borrowed words (e.g. Gk (NW) "device, instrument" mākhaná > *mokër "millstone" Gk (NW) drápanon > *drapër "sickle" etc.) from Greek language date back before the Christian era[49] and are mostly of Doric dialect of Greek language,[51] which means that the ancestors of the Albanians were in Northwestern part of Ancient Greek civilization and probably borrowed them from Greek cities (Dyrrachium, Apollonia, etc.) in the Illyrian territory, colonies which belonged to the Doric division of Greek, or from the contacts in Epirus area.
Borrowed words from Latin (e.g. Latin aurum > ar "gold", gaudium > gaz "gas" etc.[52]) date back before the Christian era,[53][44] while Illyrians in the today's Albanian territory were the first from the old Balkan populations to be conquered by Romans in 229 - 167 B.C., Thracians were conquered in 45 A.D. and Dacians in 106 A.D.
The ancient Illyrian place-names of the region have achieved their current form following Albanian phonetic rules e.g. Durrachion > Durrës (with the Albanian initial accent) Aulona > Vlonë~Vlorë (with rhotacism) Scodra > Shkodra etc.[44][49][51][54]
The characteristics of the Albanian dialects Tosk and Geg[55] in the treatment of the native and loanwords from other languages, have led to the conclusion that the dialectal split preceded the Slavic migration to the Balkans[56][57] which means that in that period (5th to 6th century AD) Albanians were occupying pretty much the same area around Shkumbin river[58] which straddled the Jirecek line.[44][59]
But, like your post, this is form wikipedia, so it's best to be skeptical.
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Post by uz on Sept 28, 2011 11:35:18 GMT -5
Yep, but I think the strongest "non-documented" fact is that the Albanians themsevles never referred themsevles as to be Illyrian untill later, when foreigners told them of the possibility, feuling hate towards the "Slavic-invaders" because prior to this Illyrian crap, Slavs and Albs got along fairly well.
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Post by odel on Sept 28, 2011 13:06:59 GMT -5
Yep, but I think the strongest "non-documented" fact is that the Albanians themsevles never referred themsevles as to be Illyrian untill later, when foreigners told them of the possibility, feuling hate towards the "Slavic-invaders" because prior to this Illyrian crap, Slavs and Albs got along fairly well. Are you seriously blaming the theory about Albanian autochtony (which is supported by all academia) being the reason Slavs and Albanians don't get along well? That's so wrong for so many reasons. Just to clear on thing out: Albanians don't get along badly with Slavs, just Serbs and to a lesser extent Macedonians. Also, we've never referred to ourselves as Illyrians, not now or ever. We don't claim to be Illyrian either; we do claim to be descended from the Illyrians however and so does most scholars in the field. Those who don't claim that we're Illyrians claim that we're Thracian/Dacian.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 28, 2011 15:26:09 GMT -5
Thracians are Gothanized Greeks
Dacians Caucasian Romania?!?
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Post by srok on Oct 22, 2011 4:43:06 GMT -5
Thracians are Gothanized Greeks Dacians Caucasian Romania?!? Thracians were Thracians, Dacians were Dacians and missanthropology is wannabe european.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 22, 2011 6:58:21 GMT -5
Thracians are Goth Greeks they are Greeks mixed in the Bulgars the Greek part in them is Ionian
Dacians come from Caucasian Romania Dacians are to do with the Romanians
If I am Caucasian that's all you need the skull shape and Eurasians aren't borderline same with the Georgians Western Turks and Circassians etc I am European you idiot, the term White has a genetic term not a geographic term and Europeans do not look the same.
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 22, 2011 12:09:22 GMT -5
Just coz youre a gypsy you dont need to hate others no wonder lebanon treats womans like cows biches like you deserve this kind of treatment cover them up and use them for sex and children making cant belive a middle east hoe hating albanians.
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