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Post by ivo on Sept 6, 2011 10:31:30 GMT -5
Gyppooo enough with your gypppo BS.
So now you claim that the Macedonians are indeed confused? And poor 'ol Chentovist thought he could use you and your people as allies.
Anyway, it doesn't matter what we claim. What matters is what neutral scholars claim. And we already know what their standpoint is.
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Post by ioan on Sept 6, 2011 10:39:33 GMT -5
yes, they accept that bulgarians exist since 8-9 century.While Romanians were yet to appear miraculously.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 6, 2011 10:41:25 GMT -5
Some Macedonians are confused because you feed them with lies. Of course they belong to the native element in the Balkans. I feel sorry for them that they are connected to the worst people in Europe. I would be devastated if someone would do that to me. Who would want to be Bulgarian, anyway?
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Post by ioan on Sept 6, 2011 10:49:04 GMT -5
i suppose to be romanian is not considered prestigious too - check the moldovans.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 6, 2011 10:52:04 GMT -5
Check what? I am Moldavian. The current president of Moldova declared himself Romanian and said that if the two countries decide to reunite, nothing can stop them. Also, they now recognize Romanian as their official language.
Indeed, there were some who were hostile to the Romanian identity. One of them was a prime minister of Bulgarian origin. I posted about this a few years ago. Ruse didn't want to hear about it.
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Post by ioan on Sept 6, 2011 11:04:05 GMT -5
there are some macedonians that think they are bulgarians, but it doesnt not proove anything. moldova and romania are still separate states and it does not appear that this will change.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 6, 2011 11:06:52 GMT -5
Seperate states, of course. Who claimed otherwise? There are also two Koreas.
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Post by elemag on Sept 6, 2011 16:45:00 GMT -5
This forum is surprisingly entertaining. I had no idea there were people who shared such ideas. 1. When was a Serbian city and its population Serbian? All sources, no matter how different in the figures, have always stated that the main ethnicities in Solun were Bulgarians, Vlahs, Jews and Greeks. The order is irrelevant because Serbs were as significant as the number of porn theatres in Saudi Arabia. 2. What do you mean by 'so was Kiril and Metod'? A man with the name of Metod never existed, at least not someone who is connected with the creation of the Bulgarian alphabet. Is this a poor spelling of the English word 'method' or a pitiful attempt to spell the name of Methodius or Metodiy, as it is in Bulgarian? Furthermore, they were brothers, therefore, it would be 'so were ....". 3. Most probably is not a scientific statement, my friend, but a wishful thinking, which in your case is plain silly and absurd.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 6, 2011 19:16:39 GMT -5
The Romanian identity became clear between the 15th and 16th century. Before that, we still had a Romanian identity, but like most people in the days, the identity belonged to the elite. There is no clear Bulgarian identity. The Bulgarian identity is fake. The Bulgarians never really existed. The Bulgars did, but they were Asian. Much like the Macedonians--whom you claim belong to your race--you are confused. We are not confused. We are Macedonians, descendents of Slavic tribes, mixed with the remnants of the ancient Macedonians. It seems the rest of you are confused though...
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Post by Sokol on Sept 6, 2011 19:20:48 GMT -5
Much like the Macedonians--whom you claim belong to your race--you are confused. So now you claim that the Macedonians are indeed confused? And poor 'ol Chentovist thought he could use you and your people as allies.
in the balkans, the enemy of your enemy is your allie. you know this, which is why you allie with the shiptars, and more recently the greeks against the Macedonians. well, we too can play this game, and this is what worries you and the greeks the most...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 6, 2011 22:49:59 GMT -5
"man i am so happy you are back...."
Brate, l had problems with my modem and phone-line, all fixed, and l wanted to have a small break from the forums too. IM BACK ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 6, 2011 23:02:46 GMT -5
"No, Clement did not invent the Cyrillic alphabet. He was an apprentice to Cyril, who was a Roman Greek. It was he and his brother, Methodius, who invented the alphabet. In fact, you could say that the Proto-Romanians of the time--meaning the Romans roaming the Balkans who spoke Eastern Latin, held the same citizenship as Cyril, so he was our brother, that we love. Since he's not here, you can thank us, instead."
One thing for certain Anittas, Cyril and Methodius were not slavs, they were certaintly not BuLgari too.
Do you see the contradicting nature of the warped BuLgarin, as you point out, they like to interchange the terms Old Slavonic with Old Bulgarian. Old Slavonic in its early days was termed as 'OLD SLOVENIAN', it was known to be as a language of the South Slavs, even Clement acknowledge this was the language of the slavs, NOT BULGARI. Old Bulgarian is the language of the old Chuvashi people from the Urals (Tartarstan).
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 7, 2011 0:02:52 GMT -5
"No, Clement did not invent the Cyrillic alphabet. He was an apprentice to Cyril, who was a Roman Greek. It was he and his brother, Methodius, who invented the alphabet. In fact, you could say that the Proto-Romanians of the time--meaning the Romans roaming the Balkans who spoke Eastern Latin, held the same citizenship as Cyril, so he was our brother, that we love. Since he's not here, you can thank us, instead." One thing for certain Anittas, Cyril and Methodius were not slavs, they were certaintly not Bu Lgari too. Do you see the contradicting nature of the warped BuLgarin, as you point out, they like to interchange the terms Old Slavonic with Old Bulgarian. Old Slavonic in its early days was termed as 'OLD SLOVENIAN', it was known to be as a language of the South Slavs, even Clement acknowledge this was the language of the slavs, NOT BULGARI. Old Bulgarian is the language of the old Chuvashi people from the Urals (Tartarstan). if not the cyrilic i am sure the old bulgari invented an alphabet which looks like:
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 7, 2011 0:09:35 GMT -5
Much like the Macedonians--whom you claim belong to your race--you are confused. So now you claim that the Macedonians are indeed confused? And poor 'ol Chentovist thought he could use you and your people as allies.
in the balkans, the enemy of your enemy is your allie. you know this, which is why you allie with the shiptars, and more recently the greeks against the Macedonians. well, we too can play this game, and this is what worries you and the greeks the most... hmmmmmm. that's idiotic. If the transitive closure of all enemies calculated by your method joins the set of the supposed friends (which surely happens in the balkans) then every nation ends up with no friends. (because every friend needs at least 2 enemies) That's the key-fact. No-friends. In this way the west can exploit us even easier!!! we are idiots who deserve to eternally suffer. we are animals.... i always thought slavs as being smth superior to the "rest" in the balkans.... unfortunately you, certain maks, and certain mongols convince me of the opposite.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 7, 2011 0:28:01 GMT -5
you may be an animal, but i am not. the serbs have given all of us a bad name. srebrenica, vukovar, sarajevo etc etc etc...
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Post by terroreign on Sept 7, 2011 1:11:43 GMT -5
you may be an animal, but i am not. the serbs have given all of us a bad name. srebrenica, vukovar, sarajevo etc etc etc... that was "bad"? i guess to you heroism and a warrior culture is bad
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 7, 2011 2:24:07 GMT -5
you may be an animal, but i am not. the serbs have given all of us a bad name. srebrenica, vukovar, sarajevo etc etc etc... that was "bad"? i guess to you heroism and a warrior culture is bad also his ability to distinguish facts from propaganda is also bad... i wanna see his civilized face when the albs will be burning the makedonian churches.... ps if you noticed the little bulgar hypocrite did not mention "racak" or "pristina" or any "bad" serb action in kosovo (but he chose to mention "safe" stereotypes away from his home land, places in Bosnia, etc...), because those events have big similarities with the equivalent scenario in makedonia... what a little pathetic hypocritical bi tch.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 7, 2011 7:38:46 GMT -5
You are proud of who you are actually are? Some of you claim Thracian origins, other claim Slavic origin; and the rest claim Iranian or Mongolian origins. You can't agree on your identity. You are a people without a true identity. The only identity you can claim is a mixed one. Almost all modern identities have mixed influences. To claim you're truly homogenous , especially in Europe , is retarded.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Sept 7, 2011 7:44:15 GMT -5
you may be an animal, but i am not. the serbs have given all of us a bad name. srebrenica, vukovar, sarajevo etc etc etc... that was "bad"? i guess to you heroism and a warrior culture is bad ...who celebrates the biggest defeat in your peoples' history ( or maybe second biggest after 1995). No, he recognizes the delusion in that 'heroism and warrior' culture you claim to have.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 7, 2011 7:52:09 GMT -5
losing against the otomans (1389) or USA (1995) is actually good. it means that serbs can fight bigger enemies...
croats OTOH seem competent only against children and women... (many serb women were raped by croats during those horrific wars)
tell me, when was the last time that croats fought against a big enemy???
lol
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