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Post by Kanaris on Feb 19, 2013 22:36:04 GMT -5
The United States has warned leaders in NATO ally Albania in no uncertain terms to stop stoking nationalism in the run-up to an election because they risk destabilizing the region.
Facing a close contest in the parliamentary election in June, Prime Minister Sali Berisha has been ruffling feathers in neighboring states that are home to millions of ethnic Albanians with his increasingly nationalist statements.
Last November, the foreign minister of neighboring Greece boycotted Albanian centenary festivities in Tirana after Berisha hailed a town over the border as "Albanian lands". The president of Macedonia, where a quarter of the population are ethnic Albanians, also stayed away.
In a memo to the Albanian Foreign Ministry reported on Friday by a number of newspapers, the U.S. State Department said Albania's leaders were wading into "potentially dangerous" territory, given the history of ethnic conflicts in the Balkans.
Such remarks "not only promote more inflammatory behavior and distract from this region's priorities, but also potentially incite violence, erode peace and stability, and impact our relationship", it said.
Even more bluntly, it told Albanian politicians to "stay out of the affairs of Serbia", which is in delicate European Union-mediated talks aimed at normalizing ties with Kosovo, whose mostly ethnic Albanian population broke away from Serbia in 1999.
A U.S. embassy spokesman declined to comment on the memo.
HISTORY OF CONFLICTS
Berisha has repeatedly complained of foreign "Albanophobia", and raised eyebrows in Serbia last month when he referred to ethnic Albanian former guerrillas there as "heroes of the Albanian nation".
Ethnic Albanians waged insurgencies in both southern Serbia and Macedonia in 2000 and 2001. Those conflicts were a spillover of the 1998-99 war in Kosovo, which broke away from Serbia after a U.S.-led NATO air campaign halted a brutal Serbian offensive to quell separatism.
Kosovo declared independence in 2008. But poverty, unemployment and a lack of integration continue to fuel discontent among ethnic Albanians across the region.
Washington was the driving force behind Albania's accession to NATO in 2009, and is pressing Tirana to ensure that its election is free of the violence and fraud allegations of previous votes, so that its bid to join the EU can move ahead.
Analysts say Berisha may be responding to the emergence of a new nationalist party called the Black and Red Alliance, a name taken from the colors of the Albanian national flag.
"Berisha is wrong if he wants to build himself a flak jacket made of nationalism to protect him should the elections go wrong," opposition lawmaker and former prime minister Pandeli Majko told Albanian television.
But Berisha defended his approach.
"This nationalism does not have territorial claims," he told a session of parliament on Friday marking Kosovo's fifth year of statehood. "This nationalism is not based on doctrines of extermination, like the nationalisms around us." Did anyone expect anything less from Albanians.... They have been the cause of most of the conflicts in the Balkans.I am glad the US is waking up to the treachery and deception of this country. read more here
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Post by rex362 on Feb 20, 2013 9:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 21, 2013 10:08:41 GMT -5
US should STFU and f*ck off!
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 10:29:37 GMT -5
US should STFU and f*ck off! Not really. Albania begged for the Yankee to save their skinny ass from the Serbian wrath. They couldn't put up a fight themselves, just like they wouldn't be able to do so now, so the Yankee started bombing bridges and stuff, just so the Kosovare could put Serbian monasteries on fire. So you see, the Albanian owes the Yankee his allegiance, and he better listen to him, especially when the Yankee speaks reason. To add to the irony, some Albanians affiliated with Al Qaida plotted against the US ... so much for feelings of loyalty. We got nothing to worry about, though. Albanians can't do shyt. They're only brave when someone does the bombing for them. Oh, and kidnapping children and raping them. Yeah, they're good at that, too.
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 10:31:23 GMT -5
Where are the big ears, the frightened eyes as if a deer got in the way of a car?
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 21, 2013 10:42:26 GMT -5
Not really. Albania begged for the Yankee to save their skinny ass from the Serbian wrath. They couldn't put up a fight themselves, just like they wouldn't be able to do so now, so the Yankee started bombing bridges and stuff, just so the Kosovare could put Serbian monasteries on fire. So you see, the Albanian owes the Yankee his allegiance, and he better listen to him, especially when the Yankee speaks reason. To add to the irony, some Albanians affiliated with Al Qaida plotted against the US ... so much for feelings of loyalty. We got nothing to worry about, though. Albanians can't do shyt. They're only brave when someone does the bombing for them. Oh, and kidnapping children and raping them. Yeah, they're good at that, too. Actually,I did think that their(US) reason given was valid.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 13:05:45 GMT -5
US should STFU and f*ck off! Not really. Albania begged for the Yankee to save their skinny ass from the Serbian wrath. They couldn't put up a fight themselves, just like they wouldn't be able to do so now, so the Yankee started bombing bridges and stuff, just so the Kosovare could put Serbian monasteries on fire. So you see, the Albanian owes the Yankee his allegiance, and he better listen to him, especially when the Yankee speaks reason. To add to the irony, some Albanians affiliated with Al Qaida plotted against the US ... so much for feelings of loyalty. We got nothing to worry about, though. Albanians can't do shyt. They're only brave when someone does the bombing for them. Oh, and kidnapping children and raping them. Yeah, they're good at that, too. the wrath of serbia was like Kosova fighting almost all of Yugoslavia bcs the serbs had all the ex yugo armament The Kosovars played their cards right .....give credit where its due ...dont be a bich
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 13:24:17 GMT -5
U.S. Warns Albanian ........
A few days ago, the Albanian government received an official memo from the U.S. government, which warned to be careful with excessive nationalist language. All this happened after Albanian Prime Minister Sali Berisha said that Albania, are bound by international irrational policies, living in five states that surround surprisingly a state created by the Albanians. The arrogance of the Americans forced Berisha to give a further explanation that seemed more of an excuse (iimo a bit scared), but for the sake of truth is real:
Sali Berisha wrote: "Albanian nationalism is the driving force of every Albanian to realize the noble goals of our nation, to achieve greater European integration project, to realize the unification of Albanians with each other, to realize the aspirations of many generations who sacrificed Albanian freedom and dignity. This nationalism has no territorial claims, is not based on the doctrine of extermination, as other based nationalism's that surround us. This nationalism is based on fundamental values. Therefore, we stand proud of our nationalism. "
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 15:32:26 GMT -5
Not really. Albania begged for the Yankee to save their skinny ass from the Serbian wrath. They couldn't put up a fight themselves, just like they wouldn't be able to do so now, so the Yankee started bombing bridges and stuff, just so the Kosovare could put Serbian monasteries on fire. So you see, the Albanian owes the Yankee his allegiance, and he better listen to him, especially when the Yankee speaks reason. To add to the irony, some Albanians affiliated with Al Qaida plotted against the US ... so much for feelings of loyalty. We got nothing to worry about, though. Albanians can't do shyt. They're only brave when someone does the bombing for them. Oh, and kidnapping children and raping them. Yeah, they're good at that, too. the wrath of serbia was like Kosova fighting almost all of Yugoslavia bcs the serbs had all the ex yugo armament The Kosovars played their cards right .....give credit where its due ...dont be a bich What about Albania? What did Albania do to fulfill your nationalistic ambitions? How did Albania help the Kosovare, what can Albania do to Macedonia? You talk the talk, can you walk the walk? Sure, the Kosovare deserve credit ... their success became a reality because they dealt with a race of buffoons who couldn't predict what their actions would lead to. If granted, they'd repeat their mistake today. There's your credit.
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 15:35:27 GMT -5
U.S. Warns Albanian ........
A few days ago, the Albanian government received an official memo from the U.S. government, which warned to be careful with excessive nationalist language. All this happened after Albanian Prime Minister Sali Berisha said that Albania, are bound by international irrational policies, living in five states that surround surprisingly a state created by the Albanians. The arrogance of the Americans forced Berisha to give a further explanation that seemed more of an excuse (iimo a bit scared), but for the sake of truth is real:
Sali Berisha wrote: "Albanian nationalism is the driving force of every Albanian to realize the noble goals of our nation, to achieve greater European integration project, to realize the unification of Albanians with each other, to realize the aspirations of many generations who sacrificed Albanian freedom and dignity. This nationalism has no territorial claims, is not based on the doctrine of extermination, as other based nationalism's that surround us. This nationalism is based on fundamental values. Therefore, we stand proud of our nationalism. "The US don't really have to warn Albania. What can Albanians do anyway? You're going to conquer Macedonia with an AK47 and a couple of slingshots? This ain't Afghanistan.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 15:38:42 GMT -5
the wrath of serbia was like Kosova fighting almost all of Yugoslavia bcs the serbs had all the ex yugo armament The Kosovars played their cards right .....give credit where its due ...dont be a bich What about Albania? What did Albania do to fulfill your nationalistic ambitions? How did Albania help the Kosovare, what can Albania do to Macedonia? You talk the talk, can you walk the walk? Sure, the Kosovare deserve credit ... their success became a reality because they dealt with a race of buffoons who couldn't predict what their actions would lead to. If granted, they'd repeat their mistake today. There's your credit. Albania did plenty besides taking in refugees .......some things I cannot write in internet land
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 17:54:27 GMT -5
What about Albania? What did Albania do to fulfill your nationalistic ambitions? How did Albania help the Kosovare, what can Albania do to Macedonia? You talk the talk, can you walk the walk? Sure, the Kosovare deserve credit ... their success became a reality because they dealt with a race of buffoons who couldn't predict what their actions would lead to. If granted, they'd repeat their mistake today. There's your credit. Albania did plenty besides taking in refugees .......some things I cannot write in internet land Take in refugees? You mean taking in their own people? Sweden probably took in more Kosovares than Albania did. Yeah, sure, Albania worked behind the scenes, in the shadows, and you're holding confidential information about that that you can't share on a public forum. I understand perfectly well. It's just that Albania has been independent for quite some time now and when it came to walk the walk, Albania did nothing. Albania didn't defend its own people, did it? I get it, Kosovares were lightly armed while Serbia had some old tanks and artillery pieces, thus the need for NATO to bomb. But where was Albania? Where was the Albanian military, the Albanian fighters, the Albanian tanks? The only thing we've seen from you is a bad attitude. Is that supposed to compensate for the rest?
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 21, 2013 18:30:34 GMT -5
As I recall there was a shipload of Albanian Refugees that no one wanted to take in and it sank to the bottom of the Adriatic...where was Albania then?
Greece took in over 1 million refugees(Rex don't go there) from Smyrna...back in '22 there were tents set up in Athens just to accommodate them...
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 18:34:51 GMT -5
Albania did plenty besides taking in refugees .......some things I cannot write in internet land Take in refugees? You mean taking in their own people? Sweden probably took in more Kosovares than Albania did. Yeah, sure, Albania worked behind the scenes, in the shadows, and you're holding confidential information about that that you can't share on a public forum. I understand perfectly well. It's just that Albania has been independent for quite some time now and when it came to walk the walk, Albania did nothing. Albania didn't defend its own people, did it? I get it, Kosovares were lightly armed while Serbia had some old tanks and artillery pieces, thus the need for NATO to bomb. But where was Albania? Where was the Albanian military, the Albanian fighters, the Albanian tanks? The only thing we've seen from you is a bad attitude. Is that supposed to compensate for the rest? who do you think armed the Kosovars ...greece ??
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 18:41:38 GMT -5
Take in refugees? You mean taking in their own people? Sweden probably took in more Kosovares than Albania did. Yeah, sure, Albania worked behind the scenes, in the shadows, and you're holding confidential information about that that you can't share on a public forum. I understand perfectly well. It's just that Albania has been independent for quite some time now and when it came to walk the walk, Albania did nothing. Albania didn't defend its own people, did it? I get it, Kosovares were lightly armed while Serbia had some old tanks and artillery pieces, thus the need for NATO to bomb. But where was Albania? Where was the Albanian military, the Albanian fighters, the Albanian tanks? The only thing we've seen from you is a bad attitude. Is that supposed to compensate for the rest? who do you think armed the Kosovars ...greece ?? Again, that only served into provoking the Serbs, leading to international condemnation and the rest is history. This is no big deal, though. I mean, if Albanian thugs arms Yemen rebells, why not arm Kosovare rebells that are just across the border? My point being is that Albania didn't make a stand against Serbia, it couldn't. Albania was, and still is, irrelevant when it comes to military. You did not walk the walk, but you continue to talk the talk. Man, I love that line, gonna use it some more.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 18:43:54 GMT -5
As I recall there was a shipload of Albanian Refugees that no one wanted to take in and it sank to the bottom of the Adriatic...where was Albania then? the ship thing ......your confused with Albanians from Albania after communism ...take them vitamins it helps (Rex has too ) yea you accommodated them with Albanian ,Vlach and slav owned properties ....after you taught them Christian Turks to speak greek properly
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Post by amateurs on Feb 21, 2013 18:47:56 GMT -5
Kanaris, not only did Albania save its own people, but it also armed them with some cheap rifles! Wow, how commendable! I suppose this is your best altruism yet!
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 21, 2013 19:42:58 GMT -5
They have a lot of heroes... like Kolokotronis,Marco Botsaris,Bouboulina,Miaoulis,K.Kanaris...and anyone with a Greek name..
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 19:56:46 GMT -5
Kanaris, not only did Albania save its own people, but it also armed them with some cheap rifles! Wow, how commendable! I suppose this is your best altruism yet! when all that stuff was going on you probably didn't have your first period already ......I could be wrong though Albania was economicly messed up coming out of communism and nonsense of pyramid schemes ....they had KLAs back with supply networkd from world wide ....it was involved indirectly with what it could in a stealth mode ....weak as it was economically and militarily incapable ...war is not a timed thing ...but for Albania proper its timing for direct involvement was not good at all
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Post by rex362 on Feb 21, 2013 20:10:49 GMT -5
also you have to understand the neighboring countries ..possible greece ,Macedonia involvement at that time ...the world didn't need Balkan war III ........also politics was a mess in Albania ....
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