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Post by ioan on Feb 18, 2008 13:04:51 GMT -5
I saw on TV that Ivailo Kalfin, the foreign minister, who was in Brussels for the meeting of the EU foreign ministers (Council of the EU), is about to propose to the Government to establish relations with Kosovo on the condition that Kosovo garantees it will establish a state with the rule of law and defence of the rights of the minorities. According to the our president, we can act in the both ways. EU is divided and decided to not have a common position (every country should decide if it would recognize Kosovo). For sure against recognition are: Romania Slovakia Cyrus. What do u think?
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 18, 2008 13:20:06 GMT -5
Spain is also against Kosovo independence.
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Post by ioan on Feb 18, 2008 13:21:35 GMT -5
oh yes spain too. will the greeks recognize it
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 18, 2008 13:37:17 GMT -5
Are you Romanian or something? What's up with your nickname? Don't tell me it's Bulgarian, because the Bulgarian form of Ioan is different.
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Post by ioan on Feb 18, 2008 14:04:47 GMT -5
no i m marcian, of course i m bulgarian and of course Ioan is not only Romanian name, get real.
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Post by ioan on Feb 18, 2008 14:05:49 GMT -5
Now on EuroNews they say Bulgaria will not recognize Kosovo?!?
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 18, 2008 15:28:55 GMT -5
Are you serious? Do Bulgarians use the form of Ioan? I know of one British actor that is named Ioan, but it's Latin derived. What about your name? Shouldn't it be Korayan or something?
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Post by ioan on Feb 18, 2008 15:38:14 GMT -5
korayan is not bulgarian name, maybe you mean kaloyan, though it comes from the greek kalo-beautiful.
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 18, 2008 17:26:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that one. Well, I see you don't want to answer my question, so forget it.
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Post by c0gnate on Feb 18, 2008 17:39:39 GMT -5
Ioan derives from the Greek Ioannes (Ἰωάννης) which derives from the Hebrew Yochanan. This name made its way throughout the world on the pages of the Gospel (of John).
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 18, 2008 18:51:43 GMT -5
I know it derives from Ioannes, but I asked if the Bulgarians really use that form.
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Post by c0gnate on Feb 18, 2008 19:39:56 GMT -5
Yes, they do, in addition to Ivan.
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Post by Ivanov on Feb 19, 2008 9:57:33 GMT -5
Romania: Hungarian minority
Slovakia Hungarian minority
Cyprus: Turkish minority
Spain Basque minority
We also have a minority - a big Turkish minority. The difference is that they are dispersed. In 27 of the 28 Regions, their number varies between 0 - 30%. In the last region - Kurdjali, according to the last elections they should be around 60%, but in fact at least 30% of the supporters of the ethnic Turkish party live there only on paper - they actually live in Turkey, but keep Bulgarian citizenship along with the Turkish and are brought here with buses only to vote. This practice started, after the Turkish party lost the local elections in 1999 and a Bulgarian mayor was elected. So, in fact the Bulgarians even in this region are more than the Turks and Pomacs together. And the central town is 80% Bulgarian.
So, similar to the Kosovo scenario is highly unlikely to happen, at least in a short term.
I think that concerning Kosovo's independence, our government is faced by a serious dilemma. If they had to decide on their own, they would never recognize it. But they are under the serious pressure of the USA. I think they will try to wait and delay the recognition as much as they can, but eventually they will do it.
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Post by ioan on Feb 19, 2008 13:18:46 GMT -5
I agree with Ivanov, they ll be pressed to recognize Kosovo. Also, add to Kurgali the fact that we are EU country (the bg citizens can work and live in EU and in 2-3 years time there wouldnt be any obsticle to go and live in any EU country) and Turkey isnt: I dont think we are facing any separation at present. Add to this the fact that DPS is in the government. However, Bulgaria should also worry that this presedent can happen also in FYROM and probably we would somehow be involved.
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Post by bb681 on Feb 19, 2008 19:58:15 GMT -5
A bit funny really but in regards to the recognition if the Bulgarian government ends up recognising Kosovo, the public will blame it for being influenced by the US/EU and if it doesnt, it will be blamed for being influenced by Russia(or the Turkish members of parliament)
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Post by terroreign on Feb 20, 2008 8:06:47 GMT -5
Basque country should become independent, that's something im completely for.
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Post by ioan on Feb 20, 2008 15:23:18 GMT -5
A bit funny really but in regards to the recognition if the Bulgarian government ends up recognising Kosovo, the public will blame it for being influenced by the US/EU and if it doesnt, it will be blamed for being influenced by Russia(or the Turkish members of parliament) i agree, except for the Turkish members of parliament. Shouldnt they be FOR recognition, as Turkey was?
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Post by bb681 on Feb 20, 2008 17:13:34 GMT -5
yeah, my bad! I dont know what I was thinking when I wrote Turkey as non-recognising. Maybe Im still surprised they went for it given that they are even more messed up than the Spaniards when it comes to separatism.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 20, 2008 21:37:17 GMT -5
Thanks Bulgaria
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Post by prespa1 on Feb 20, 2008 23:11:28 GMT -5
BRAVO BULGARIA...............THANKS
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