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Post by Dragos Voda on Dec 27, 2008 18:48:52 GMT -5
nor was it vlach territory....more likely slav territory, Hungarian and slav settlements pre-date all your olah names. Just as wallachia was cumania. The name Moldova comes from a Romanian folk tale which tells of a shepherd who had a dog called Molda. What does Moldova mean in Hungarian, Slavic, or Cuman?- nothing. Slavs and Cumans were assimilated, they wanted to become Romanian. Romanian is not a race but a state of mind of being Latin. Wallachians originally migrated south from Transylvania. Why do you think they named the flat Wallachian plain Muntenia (Mountainous land) if it wasn't named after their former home in the mountains? They were chased out when King Stephen of Hungary consolidated his power over Transylvania in the 12th century and invited the Saxons to settle there. Same with Moldova, the first ban came from Maramures in Transylvania.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 27, 2008 18:54:41 GMT -5
" lol really...Transylvania which was part of (eastern) Hungary, romanians constituted no more than 15% of the entire population. Yes and i`m sure i can take further your argument and say that they were 1% of Europa`s population and 0,0000001% of Earth population. We are talking about Transylvania and its population here . What happened to the rest of the Austro-Hungary its not my concern. Yes Transylvania, our main subject, glad you finally catch up. Yes we were around 60% and you were around 30% (after your census;both numbers rounded) And my argument about the city population distribution still stands. Uhm, wasnt the subject about the Transilvanian cities ? Did we changed the ethnic balance in Budapest or Bratislava and i didnt knew ? Dude...Transylvania....focus! There were 2.8 milions Romanians in 1910. Add the accepted migration number by Arpad , 600k and you have 3.4 mil. Comparing to today, the population grew with 2 milions in 100 years. In the same period Romania`s overall population grew from 16 mil. to 21 mil. If we watch the overall growth , we can see that an extra 1-2 mil population was a normal growth for all main historic regions. Where are those unusual millions of emigrants ? Moldova was mentioned in chronicles from 1300 and something with no significant numbers of Hungarians. Thats enough for me. And before cumania was Dacia. And before Dacia was neanderthal man , and before him the monkeys , and before the monkeys , a bacteria rising from the primordial soup. Bow mortal to the mighty bacteria !
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Dec 27, 2008 20:41:18 GMT -5
"He never ever wrote such a thing in Description Moldavie or in any other place, are you so disperate that you put words in his mouth?
lol....I just proved it with web sources you frustrated idiot, now prove me wrong with some sources if you can....a typical olah that can't face facts or reality when presented in front of him.
"Yes and i`m sure i can take further your argument and say that they were 1% of Europa`s population and 0,0000001% of Earth population."
Yes, Transylvania which was an integral part of Hungary. So your little assembly at Gyulafehervar amounted to nothing more than treason in a sovereign state. the entire population didn't vote. Partium which was also given to you gypsies was pure Hungarian. And don't give me this Austria-Hungary crap...The Hungarian kingdom existed 1000 yrs. before A-H creation with relatively the same borders.
Yes we were around 60% and you were around 30%
Don't give me this rounding s**t.... 33% to 57%, not 30% to 60% thats a 6% shift which equals approx 264,000 Magyar. So you ass licking people were given 100% of the territory with 57% of the population. Oh yes... the Germans(saxons) whom we invited into our country centuries ago were persuaded to vote with you after you promised them cultural rights which they already had and which you quickly revoked... and in true "gypsy fashion" you sold them all back to Germany.
"Comparing to today, the population grew with 2 milions in 100 years."
there are approx 5.5 million of you olah in Transylvania today. 2.8 to 5.5 million in 88 yrs. doubling your population in that short of time is not a normal growth rate.
"Moldova was mentioned in chronicles from 1300 and something with no significant numbers of Hungarians. Thats enough for me."
yeah... thats about the time of your migration from the south.
"And before cumania was Dacia. And before Dacia was neanderthal man , and before him the monkeys , and before the monkeys , a bacteria rising from the primordial soup. Bow mortal to the mighty bacteria !
No, before Dacia was Cro-magnon man (modern man) who came from asia.... So as all romanians claim you were here from the dawn of time you must be neanderthals....and about the bacteria part. good analogy, I'd characterize romanians as parasites.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Dec 27, 2008 21:02:51 GMT -5
'Wallachians originally migrated south from Transylvania. Why do you think they named the flat Wallachian plain Muntenia (Mountainous land) if it wasn't named after their former home in the mountains? "
lol.....
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Post by wbb on Dec 27, 2008 22:11:39 GMT -5
Dragos get stuffed with ur theory about Romanian being state of mind of being Latin. Romanians are being state of mind of being "Gypsies" who stole the Roman history and then convert themselves into decendents of Romans who settled in Dacia but really in reply to this is that Romanians are only knownly known truely as a bunch of Indo-Aryan chitheads coming from India who loves fairtales and folklores and fortune telling. lol lol
So that means Wallachians originally decend from Hungarian itself? Or now u say they decend from Dacia? when infact really Dacian was inhabited by Hungarians, since the earliest of the people in Carpathian area was the anchestors of the Hungarians coming from Iran. That was 5000 years BC, right before Jesus was borned. There was no miserable Slavic or gypsy people in europe then. Bronze age, Copper age is all from Iranian decent, the very first founder and anchestors of Hungarians todays. Then come the Scythians (the dominant part of Hungarians), after comes the Huns, Avars, Magyars, Cumans, Pechenegs, Jasz. All those people are from the 100% same ethno-linguistic stock. All of them haves the same Turko-Persian-Turanian races, it's not illegal for us to marry our relatives, hahaha, however it's illegal for to marry sisters and brothers. This marrying sister or brother practice is very common among romanians, that's all their kids are a fuked up crumble sub-human breeded types who spread diseases and terrorise like Zombies, another sub-humans.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 28, 2008 2:42:55 GMT -5
" Yes, Transylvania which was an integral part of Hungary. So your little assembly at Gyulafehervar amounted to nothing more than treason in a sovereign state. the entire population didn't vote. .The Hungarian kingdom existed 1000 yrs. before A-H creation with relatively the same borders. So you gladly support any self determination of a region, like with Kosovo, but in our case Transylvania`s population did not have any right vote for themselves... Kinda hypocritical dont you think ? That will be true if all Hungary was annexed to Romania.But it didnt, so cut it out with the childish strawman Wel yeah, it seems pretty democratic to me. 57%, actualy more like 67% (with the Germans vote) its a majority. The majority of a land has spoken. Its not our fault that you didn't succeed to keep your minorities happy. You were running the show there, if you lost the German`s support its your own fault. Ok here we go again : 2,8 milion + 600k acknowledged emigration = 3,4 mil so now we have an extra 2,1 mil. Romania`s overall population grew with roughly 6 millions in the same time frame. So every historic region, had a grow of approximately 2 mil. Not only Transylvania, but all other regions too. Once again, where is the huge flood of millions in Transylvania ? PS FFS learn to use the quotes This marrying sister or brother practice is very common among romanians, blah blah blah blah
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Post by wbb on Dec 28, 2008 3:57:32 GMT -5
Why should Hungary been annexed to friken miserable sub-human race nation? To bring more friggin Indo-Aryan garbage chitheads into the land and pollute it with friken zombie-like subhumans?
subhuman is telling the pure 100% humans what to do? how ironically original.
every other region which has been flooded with stupid half breeded humans who marrys their sister or brother and kids becomes a fuk-in-da-head crumble like zombies.
Romanians and Zombies are 2 good comparision, 2 from the same family of Subhumans who trys to contaminate the pure breeded Human races. It's so sad that i have to waste my time for 3 or 4 days talking to sub-human zombie race which is Romanians, who had their small pure baby head dropped on the floor when his or her mother gave birth to them at the Ceacescu's subhuman hospital of Bucharest, talking about the pure breeded land of Transylvania was the birth place of the subhuman zombie monsters from India who adopted the Roman culture. A culture of mobs, who Julius Caesar himself suggested.
All this stupid argument was started by a subhumans who complains that a 100% human is making their little 10,000 subhuman's subhuman language dissappear because the 10,000 subhuman wants to be human again in the 100% pure breed country= Hungary.
Hello Hello Hello, is anybody inside the head of the subhumans, hello hello. Hey Romanised Gypsy subhumans, i got a message for u, written by a pure human regarding about the friken subhumans.
The sub-human, that biologically seemingly complete similar creation of nature with hands, feet and a kind of brain, with eyes and a mouth, is nevertheless a completely different, dreadful creature. He is only a rough copy of a human being, with human-like facial traits but nonetheless morally and mentally lower than any animal. Within this creature there is a fearful chaos of wild, uninhibited passions, nameless destructiveness, the most primitive desires, the nakedest vulgarity. Sub-human, otherwise nothing. For all that bear a human face are not equal. Woe to him who forgets it.
All this source describe the Romanians also, who have a subhuman behaviour, mercilessly killing Hungarians that's including Szekely and Csango people in their subhuman territory of Romania. The most people that's suffered in the land of misserable Indo-Aryan chitheads are the pure breeded Hungarians, Muslims Turks, Tatars and Bulgars and German too.
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Dec 28, 2008 8:09:49 GMT -5
He never ever wrote such a thing in Description Moldavie or in any other place, are you so disperate that you put words in his mouth? lol....I just proved it with web sources you frustrated idiot, now prove me wrong with some sources if you can....a typical olah that can't face facts or reality when presented in front of him. Here is a link to the book. la.wikisource.org/wiki/Descriptio_MoldaviaeCantemir wrote it in Latin so here is untranslated, exactly as Cantemir wrote it. Now show me you uneducated Mongolian where is written there that Suceava comes from any Hungarian Szucvar? Russi et Hungari perpetuam servitutem in Moldavia sortiti sunt.In Moldavia Russians and Hungarians are forever destined to be serfs.Dragos, is't it ironic to say "The name Moldova comes from a Romanian folk tale which tells of a shepherd who had a dog called Molda" and to have Dragos Voda as a nick.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 28, 2008 9:23:06 GMT -5
blah blah blah more bullchit, insults and frustrated behavior than in a loony bin If you think that you insult anyone with this kind of language your wrong. 1) personally i find entertaining when after number,statistics. unbiased sources etc someone answers with : "omg gypsy ll ro-mania, gypsy lol , killers gypsy lol, subhuman lol, gypsy lol lol lol gypsy lol, genocide , gypsy lol lol lol" Mission accomplished. 2) with this kind of "friends" Hungary doesnt need any more enemies Keep up the good work, this kind of posts are hurting Hungary`s image more than any other foreign insults.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Dec 28, 2008 12:10:32 GMT -5
Get a grasp on reality, find unbiased articles and books to read instead of spewing your sourceless crap here. Rural-Urban Migration Until relatively recently, population densities were higher in the Carpathian foothills of Walachia than on the plains themselves. Romania's cities swelled not from natural increase but from migration. Already by 1966, almost one-third of the population resided in places where they had not been born, and fully 60 percent of the residents of the seven largest cities had been born elsewhere. During the period from 1968 to 1973, nearly 2 million people migrated from one location to another, with rural-urban migrants a clear two-thirds majority. . Romanians became the growing majority in cities that had long been Hungarian and German enclaves. These changes were not solely the result of natural migration, but were carefully engineered by the state. Secret internal regulations ordered major minority centers such as Cluj, Oradea, and Arad to be virtually sealed off to the largest ethnic minorities and encouraged their outmigration while directing an influx of ethnic Romanians. Population shifts were engendered under the guise of multilateral development, the party's byword for building socialism. The stated goal was equalization of regional development, and statistical data were often cited to show that investments in underdeveloped minority-inhabited areas were made in an effort to bring them up to the national average. Minorities-- particularly the Hungarians--claimed, however, that economic growth did not provide training and jobs for them but served as a pretext for the massive influx of ethnic Romanian workers. Thus, whereas ethnic Hungarians had to leave their homeland to find employment in the Old Kingdom region, ethnic Romanians were offered incentives to relocate to Transylvania. www.mongabay.com/reference/country_studies/romania/SOCIETY.html - 174k - Even as early as 1948, the process of rewriting the history of Transylvania to favor the Romanian version was under way. Revised textbooks gave ample coverage of the great Romanian heroes of the past, but they provided little or no information about key minority figures, and those who were mentioned were given Romanian names. The books emphasized that the struggle for unification of the Romanian fatherland had been opposed by the Hungarians and Germans, who were labeled "latecomers" and "colonists." Hugh Seton-Watson writes in “Eastern Europe Between the Wars” (Archon Books, 1962) on page 300-301:.”The Hungarians became second class citizens in Transylvania ... Rumanian officials from across the mountains flooded the province ...” "FFS learn to use the quotes" "2,8 milion + 600k acknowledged emigration = 3,4 mil " .....source? lol lol.....I think you should take your own advice, and maybe do a little research instead if copy/pasting childish little signs. and to the la mancha dude...... Suceava History The name is of Hungarian origin, being derived from Szűcsvár which means "Town of the skin-workers", this etymology being given in Dimitrie Cantemir's Descriptio Moldaviae. Dimitrie Cantemir (-Romanian, Дмитрий Кантемир in Russian, KantemiroÄŸlu in Turkish, Kantymir in Polish), (October 26, 1673 - 1723) was a Moldavian Voivode (Prince; March-April 1693 and 1710-1711), philosopher, historian, composer, linguist and scholar. ... www.experiencefestival.com/dimitrie_cantemir - 136k facts and reality are upsetting, aren't they?
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 28, 2008 15:33:38 GMT -5
Get a grasp on reality, find unbiased articles and books to read instead of spewing your sourceless crap here. I gave already the links in the same topic , look them up. There are Hungarian sites. Fair enough. Uhmm yeah, its called "industrialization" of an agricultural country. People move from villages to the growing cities. What this has to do with migration to Transylvania ? It doesnt say anything about people from Wallachia and Moldova moving in Transylvania or something like that . Yes, it wasnt exactly a bed of roses for Hungarians after the war, but what did you expect after hundreds of years of Unio Trium Nationum and mad magyarisation ? Karma is such a b*tch sometimes, isnt it ? www.kia.hu/konyvtar/erdely/erdang.htm
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Dec 28, 2008 16:50:48 GMT -5
'What this has to do with migration to Transylvania ? It doesnt say anything about people from Wallachia and Moldova moving in Transylvania or something like that ."
Population shifts were engendered under the guise of multilateral development, the party's byword for building socialism. The stated goal was equalization of regional development, and statistical data were often cited to show that investments in underdeveloped minority-inhabited areas were made in an effort to bring them up to the national average. Minorities-- particularly the Hungarians--claimed, however, that economic growth did not provide training and jobs for them but served as a pretext for the massive influx of ethnic Romanian workers. Thus, whereas ethnic Hungarians had to leave their homeland to find employment in the Old Kingdom region, ethnic Romanians were offered incentives to relocate to Transylvania.
I believe this paragraph clearly stated the fact
"Yes, it wasnt exactly a bed of roses for Hungarians after the war, but what did you expect after hundreds of years of Unio Trium Nationum and mad magyarisation ?"
lol.... you're a retard, "Unio Trium Nationum and mad magyarisation ?" You mean assimilation, no one stuck a gun to anyones head and forced them to become Hungarian. You either spoke the official language of the country or you didn't succeed in life...same as anywhere else. If you didn't like it you should of went back to where you came from...regat. you're right...having your country torn to pieces through lying, deciet, treachery is no bed of roses. But what goes around comes around...yugo and czech gone. romania's day will come.
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Post by Dragos Voda on Dec 28, 2008 19:16:46 GMT -5
You either spoke the official language of the country or you didn't succeed in life...same as anywhere else. If you didn't like it you should of went back to where you came from...regat. So according to your theory Hungarians should go back to Bashkiria. But what goes around comes around...yugo and czech gone. romania's day will come. I doubt this, Hungary had to give up all claims on Transylvania in order to join the EU and Romania is now part of the EU also. The EU does not support changing any international borders in Europe.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 28, 2008 20:01:55 GMT -5
Population shifts were engendered under the guise of multilateral development, the party's byword for building socialism. The stated goal was equalization of regional development, and statistical data were often cited to show that investments in underdeveloped minority-inhabited areas were made in an effort to bring them up to the national average. Minorities-- particularly the Hungarians--claimed, however, that economic growth did not provide training and jobs for them but served as a pretext for the massive influx of ethnic Romanian workers. Thus, whereas ethnic Hungarians had to leave their homeland to find employment in the Old Kingdom region, ethnic Romanians were offered incentives to relocate to Transylvania. 1) "hungarians claimed" - thats a strong untouchable argument 2) how about a a real fact : that because of Romanians were considered underclass , the large majority were forced to live in countryside, while Hungarians lived in the cities. What now, do you want to keep the most numerous Romanians in the villages in order not to hurt Hungarian`s feelings ? Yes its states the fact that there was an emigration. Arpad`s studies point at 600k. What you didnt proved, its your statement about millions of emigrants. Interesting point of view. Maybe we should treat our Hungarians the same. Oh wait, i forgot that in even the smallest problems like a specific bilingual plate on a building, everyone like you screams : terror ! ; ethnic genocide ! , oppression ! Hypocrite. Yeah, heard this joke before. Somehow for some people just makes sens to compare a 90% Romanian national state with multi ethnic political constructs like yugo. Well, whatever floats your boat dude.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Dec 28, 2008 23:14:16 GMT -5
"Yes its states the fact that there was an emigration. Arpad`s studies point at 600k. What you didnt proved, its your statement about millions of emigrants. Romania's cities swelled not from natural increase but from migration. Already by 1966, almost one-third of the population resided in places where they had not been born, and fully 60 percent of the residents of the seven largest cities had been born elsewhere. During the period from 1968 to 1973, nearly 2 million people migrated from one location to another, with rural-urban migrants a clear two-thirds majority. 2 million isn't 600,000...lol, and if you think the 2 million came from the rural transylvanian countryside you're even stupider than I thought. "our Hungarians" I didn't know we were gypsy property "90% Romanian national state " lol...another rounded figure" and another "OFFICIAL" census. So we should also believe there are only 500,000 gypsies(official census) in your country? The Roma Population No one knows for sure the exact number of Roma people in Romania. Biased government statistics place the figure as low as 500,000, whereas European Union demographics estimate the Roma population at 1.5 million. The problem of accuracy is further exacerbated as Roma activists agree on a figure of two million to 2.5 million. www.lausanneworldpulse.com/urban.php/840/10-2007 - 11k the Hungarian minority of about 1.7 million--estimated by some Western experts at 2-2.5 million. www.mongabay.com/reference/country_studies/romania/SOCIETY.html Thats 5 million in minorities at least right there....add another 1 million Germans, slavs, Turks, Tatars and god knows what else you have at least 6 million subtracted from 22 million=16 million= 73%. yeah, I'd call romania a multi-ethnic state. Its only a matter of time, Szekelyfold Autonomy and a Gypsy homeland, with the Giurgiu district of bucuresti as its capital. Like you said...majorities rule.
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Post by wbb on Dec 29, 2008 1:53:07 GMT -5
Romanians wasnt forced to live in the villages, they wanted to live in villages, there's a reason why, Romanians not that's stupid at all, because Romanians know that when they live in cities of Transylvania, they have to assimilate like much as anybody else, and that's what fears them, they wanted to stay Romanian. Otherwise if this thing wouldnt happen, Hungarians would be majority in all areas of Transylvania, not because Hungarians forced their minority to become hungarian but because the Hungarian culture was very easy to enter than to leave it, however there was many of Romanians who entered the hungarian culture who are todays Hungarians, they dont have to be Szekely or Csango but actual Hungarians living in Hungary todays, so basically Romanians threw out their own people from Transylvania into present-day Hungary during the 20th century periods, this what made the magyarised Romanians become and stay Hungarian forever and ever.
I dont think u should, that's would cause further unrest in the region, causing sectarian lines everywhere, that's would be bad enough. Hungarians are not doing anything with Romanians in Transylvania but live sensibly, and just because Hungarians and Romanians in this forum have one small disagreement, doesnt mean u have to go outside and bashing some people of different orgin, maybe the person u'll bash helps u out in ur struggling lives forever, who knows. Personally i have nothing against Romanians, i met alot of Romanian girls, they are nice arse, they dont behave like u guys do, they know im hungarian, that's still didnt stop them from asking me to have a root with them, which i didnt cause i respect the girl. There's many Romanian boys i met too, they ask me why Transylvania interest the Hungarians, i told them because we are natives there for thousands and thousands of years, they didnt say..fuk u or u're wrong, they accepted my oppinions, they told me why Romanians in Transylvania, i accepted his oppinions but not friken xenophobic talk like u guys do. He didnt approve that all of Transylvania being part of Hungary, but he did approve half of Transylvania being part of Hungary. What a romanian!!! Not like this romanians in this forum talk chit about Hungarians being Mongol-Gypsy-Arab-Islamist-terrorist which makes all other Hungarians like me go like "lol Romania lol...Gypsy lol...Tatarish orpan Gyspies lol...Dracula worshippers lol lol lol...friken bunch of Indo-Aryan chitheads lol lol lol lol hahahah...subhumans lol hahaha lol". Understand now?
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 29, 2008 4:11:50 GMT -5
"Yes its states the fact that there was an emigration. Arpad`s studies point at 600k. What you didnt proved, its your statement about millions of emigrants. Romania's cities swelled not from natural increase but from migration. Already by 1966, almost one-third of the population resided in places where they had not been born, and fully 60 percent of the residents of the seven largest cities had been born elsewhere. During the period from 1968 to 1973, nearly 2 million people migrated from one location to another, with rural-urban migrants a clear two-thirds majority. 2 million isn't 600,000...lol, and if you think the 2 million came from the rural transylvanian countryside you're even stupider than I thought. 1) Your text its all about industrialization and rural -urban migration for the whole country. Where the hell tells about Wallachians and Moldovans moving to the Transylvania in millions. Please point me that line. Or do you think the only cities in the whole country were in Transylvania ? I suggest quitting on strawmans and actually prove something. Start by attacking the population calculation i made using Hungarian Census + Arpad studies + Romania`s overall population growth or GTFO. Its posted twice. Yes round up by 0,5%. That changes everything. Oh wait, it doesn't.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 29, 2008 4:53:07 GMT -5
Yes they were treated like underclass until the end. When in 1892 Romanians asked for equal ethnic rights and nothing more, their leaders were put in jail. In the dawn of the XX century you were still acting like in medieval ages. Yes,its called forced magyarisation. And it was so strong that you managed to piss off even the privileged Germans So Romanians were afraid because of the extreme beauty of Hungarian language and culture, a beauty that converts instantly any other culture ? Oh and I thought that they hated because without embracing the Hungarian culture you were considered some kind of animal in Transylvania like countless sources tell us. Silly me.
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Post by wbb on Dec 29, 2008 6:56:23 GMT -5
bs, we treated them good, all this so-called Magyarisation policy is considered fabricated bs by "lol gypsies lol, roman-wannabe lol, hungarian terroroist lol". This fabricated history was introduce by Romania to brainwash moderated young romanians like u to hate the "lol islamist terrorist who rape women lol", "Hungarians who are primitive lol lol, Hungary is a land of gypsies who talk bs lol", to hate Hungarians for without reason.
And lol lol lol Hungarians were still acting like in medieval ages lol lol, bs. U know why bs? Because if we Hungarian treated u romanians like in medieval ages, we would have cut ur head off, chop ur hand off, stone ur women to death, burn u at the stake in death sentences instead of just simply hanging u by the rope, lol weird isnt it lol lol lol. Think twice before u fabricate the history or im gonna have this lol lol lol habit in which u started.
actually we were piss-ing the germans off big time with this stupid germanisation, which every romanians in transylvania were crying and begging for Hungarians to abolished it in Transylvania because Romanians didnt wanted to become German, because u know German dont like orthodox people, they wanted to slit ur romanian throat for it, which the Hungarians defended u from their extreme germanistion-catholicism. We however did succeded in this but this lead to 1848 war of independence, which we expected romanians in transylvania to join on our side for fighting for ur rights as romanians, u chose instead to join this dikhead Avram Iancu a pro-Habsburger who seeks to make enemity between romanians and hungarians because lol Germans promise Iancu, that romanians will have their reform after the war, which they didnt lol, Germans break their promise didnt they? If romanians join us, romanians would still be happy inside of Hungary till now but lol no, lol u wanted to do it on the german way, lol lol woe to u, friggin traitorious scumbags, Romanians straight away pull-out and collarberate with their enemies who seek to destroy those orthodox vlach people while Hungarians stick up for ya. so lol lol Hungarians got's the blame on the end, yes the mongol-gypsies-poofters, lol lol lol. We should of let all romanians to rot themselves in Transylvania and become germanised forever, that would of been better, just incase they wont throw their own gypsy chit on our face, for Hungarians liberating u.
we didnt force them to become hungarians, they become hungarian for themselves, they were comfortable enough to do so, which is not including in ur xenophobic vlach propaganda history of course. There was no such thing as Magyarisation during Austria-Hungary but there was Germanisation, in which most romanians wanted to be magyarised instead of germanised. all the politics was coming from Vienna itself not Budapest, as u know very well Hungary was still a sovereignity of Austria's Habsburg and the capital was Vienna still rather than Budapest, so it's kinda semi-independent framework within Austria. Magyarisation existed during WW2 when we ethnically cleanse the chit out of ya in Northern Transylvania, that's when it's first happens, to start off with this Magyarisation bs. So basically it was Nazism rather than Magyarisation imposed by these stupid romanian teenagers who are bored dorks from Bucharest University, failing to upgrade their unsatisfactory result of their ABCEDHIJK test. Romanian government immediately approved of ur fabricated fairytale chit, of course, just to create more extreme towards Hungarians in Transylvania, but we Hungarians already knew this setup conspiracy for a long long time, while ur mother was still nursing and changing the chitty nappy for u when u was a lovely little cute-looking baby. This anti-Hungarian conspiracy was so increasingly popular that it's spread even to Serbia, Slovakia, Croatia to those xenophobic youngters who never met a hungarian in their lives to have their extreme hatred.
the most hate mongers who lurking through this forum is all these young romanian university suckers, causing hatred and provocation towards Hungarian people and the forum.
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Post by lvl100 on Dec 29, 2008 8:29:59 GMT -5
bs, we treated them good, all this so-called Magyarisation policy is considered fabricated bs by "lol gypsies lol, roman-wannabe lol, hungarian terroroist lol". This fabricated history was introduce by Romania to brainwash moderated young romanians like u Do you know what "Transylvanian Memorandum" is ? In 1892 Romanians leaders asked to have the same rights with the others ethnics in Transylvania. This and nothing more. For such "outrageous" demand they were thrown in jail. Keeping other religions/ethnics as second hand human beings is medieval Yo dude, i dont know what other frustrations you have, but Muslim terrorists are not a part of Transylvania subject. Read above Germanisation ? Ha ha ha ha ...wait ha ha ha ha ...your killing me...ha ha ha ha ha First of all the Germans were a frigging 10% of population and concentrated in small areas. And their political power diminshed with every single day. That`s why they raised against Hungarians too Actually the Germans had and have a positive feedback from the Romanians in the most part of our history. And that tells a lot about your blubbering. How ? By not recognizing Ortodoxism for hundreds of years ? Yes you succeed to be hated by every other ethnics in Transylvania. Of course, you refused to give our rights , siding with Germans was the logic solution. No they don't. But in a Transylvania who was ruled in most part by Hungarians it was impossible anyway. The authors of "Transylvania memorandum" were thrown in jail by Hungarians, not by Germans. You dont need to cry me a river for our choices. In the end everything worked just fine for us. Don`t you think ? How about your history ? Is Unio Trium Nationum included in the same chapter about the kindness of Hungarians ? Oh yes, another ungrateful nations who didnt realised the kindness and good will of Hungarians. Says the man that have more " gypsy, traitors, romanian scum, again gypsy, cut your throat, gypsy, beggers, kill you, thieves , again gypsy, w**res, again gypsy" in his posts, than a Magyar Garda convention. Even szorostlapu1 is a little kid comparing to your insults. But dont let that stop you to play the "flower power" card
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