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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 30, 2009 11:33:13 GMT -5
Turkey isn't going to start a war with anyone. There isn't need for another war, we aren't living in the past. Turkey first needs to restructure its political system, then focus on economy, whilst at the same time look at who her allies really are. Unless another country actually attacks Turkey, Turkey is not going to attack anyone, and anothr thing the Quiet before the storm was regarding the political atmosphere.... not a war LOL
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Post by Kassandros on Jul 30, 2009 11:43:47 GMT -5
LOL. Your good at... getting conquered? if you're small in a strategic place.. then yes you're conquered continously. We have been conquered from Persians, Goths, AngloSaxons, Ottomans, Germans, Italians etc etc etc. So? That means nothing. The end is that it counts The end today is ..."We're still here free.. they're not". That is what it counts. Not the numbers but the will... for the finally victory.. (kickout in our case)
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Post by Kassandros on Jul 30, 2009 11:56:58 GMT -5
Turkey isn't going to start a war with anyone. There isn't need for another war, we aren't living in the past. Turkey first needs to restructure its political system, then focus on economy, whilst at the same time look at who her allies really are. Unless another country actually attacks Turkey, Turkey is not going to attack anyone, and anothr thing the Quiet before the storm was regarding the political atmosphere.... not a war LOL Turkey is in great turmoil right now. Ergenekon, Erdogan, Kurds, EU, Cyprous, Generals, non compatable Values, etc etc. Turkey may start a small war.. or just a small conflict in order people to feel unite against one common enemy. The overactivity over Aegean flights and the "Grey zones" invantion of the last years show this way. Imia was a similar case. For sure, if Turkey had not EU as a target, a war with Greece was almost sure. The problem with Turkey is that now, in order to become an EU member has to act and behave in a different way that it was used to. "Policy ala Tourka" was the old way. Times have changed, generations and generations have raised with values like "we conquered this and that with our bravery"... and now all these have to change. You cannot change so easy a country of 60 million citizens with huge percentage of uneduated ones and with very strong nationalistic rhetoric over all these generations. In other words.. it is too difficult to convince the same people you taught to hate foreigners.. now to love them and feel them like one family... or the same people you taught how to destroy with their hands Christian icons from churches in Turkey.. now to protect them and promote them as a multicultural evidence.. For sure, in order to get into EU, something that Turkish gov. seems to like, you need to follow certain rules... and these rules are 100% exactly the opposite of Turkey's ways, or policy ala Turka or citizen's way represent today. I dont know how and if they will succeed it... For the time being.. what it seems is the most tourists they come in Turkey.. the more stubbings from young kids are taking place. Weird times for Turkey.. and I really want to see what the end will be...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 30, 2009 12:20:04 GMT -5
There isn't a Kurdish in the whole of Turkey, the problem really is only in the South East, apart from some suiciders that hit the west once in a while, we neither see them, nor think about them. Armenia isn't an issue... Nobody even mentions the word Greece Syria, Iraq, Iran out of the three only Iran is a nuisance.. Israel and Turkey aren't as buddy buddy as before, but the ties still linger. None of the Turk Central Asian Countries will ever make big headaches for Turkey.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 30, 2009 12:30:39 GMT -5
Turkey isn't going to start a war with anyone. There isn't need for another war, we aren't living in the past. Turkey first needs to restructure its political system, then focus on economy, whilst at the same time look at who her allies really are. Unless another country actually attacks Turkey, Turkey is not going to attack anyone, and anothr thing the Quiet before the storm was regarding the political atmosphere.... not a war LOL Turkey is in great turmoil right now. Ergenekon, Erdogan, Kurds, EU, Cyprous, Generals, non compatable Values, etc etc. Turkey may start a small war.. or just a small conflict in order people to feel unite against one common enemy. The overactivity over Aegean flights and the "Grey zones" invantion of the last years show this way. Imia was a similar case. For sure, if Turkey had not EU as a target, a war with Greece was almost sure. The problem with Turkey is that now, in order to become an EU member has to act and behave in a different way that it was used to. "Policy ala Tourka" was the old way. Times have changed, generations and generations have raised with values like "we conquered this and that with our bravery"... and now all these have to change. You cannot change so easy a country of 60 million citizens with huge percentage of uneduated ones and with very strong nationalistic rhetoric over all these generations. In other words.. it is too difficult to convince the same people you taught to hate foreigners.. now to love them and feel them like one family... or the same people you taught how to destroy with their hands Christian icons from churches in Turkey.. now to protect them and promote them as a multicultural evidence.. For sure, in order to get into EU, something that Turkish gov. seems to like, you need to follow certain rules... and these rules are 100% exactly the opposite of Turkey's ways, or policy ala Turka or citizen's way represent today. I dont know how and if they will succeed it... For the time being.. what it seems is the most tourists they come in Turkey.. the more stubbings from young kids are taking place. Weird times for Turkey.. and I really want to see what the end will be... Basil Ergenoken is an issue personal to Erdogan, it isn't affecting the rest of Turkey. Turkish people are united no Turks are having misunderstandings about different values, Generals or Cyprus. In fact the people of Turkey are just getting on with life. The government and army deal with those types of Issues. The planes are always overactive.... hasn't changed in years. Why is a war with Greece for sure? for what exact reason would Turkey want to go and make a war with Greece? Now firstly NO Turks are taught to hate any other race, or religion, this is just a misconception that I hope only you personally have. All that stuff about Icons from churches, (if that ever happened) was surely waaaaaaaaay in the past, and is not whts happening today. Turks are not europeans, therefore no need fro EU or to change anything about our lives. In fact if what u say was so true, that people are taught in Europe to live happily in a multicultural environment, whats up with all the Turk and Albo hate in Greece, a solid EU member The tourists get stabbed everywhere in the world, not just Turkey if they don't respect they will be faced with real problems, I wonder what would happen if some English hooligan came as a tourist to Greece, touched a Greek mans wifes arse, made fun of her and then took the Greek flag and tried to wipe his arse with it ?
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 13:07:55 GMT -5
"3-Greece has less than 1 million of soldiers and a total population of 11 million of persons ! Turkey has 12 million only soldiers and a population of 72.000.000 inhabitants !" ------------------------------------------------------------- If the modern wars were with swords.. then yes.. we would have a problem. Since swords dont exist any more... we dont know how it will end up. Depends who, US and Russia, will help. But again... even if we're conquered.. we have a good reputation in kicking occupiers out at the end. We'll see... we'll see.. We will not liberate Greece again ! ;D
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 13:08:38 GMT -5
LOL. Your good at... getting conquered? ;D
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 13:09:55 GMT -5
Turkey isn't going to start a war with anyone. There isn't need for another war, we aren't living in the past. Turkey first needs to restructure its political system, then focus on economy, whilst at the same time look at who her allies really are. Unless another country actually attacks Turkey, Turkey is not going to attack anyone, and anothr thing the Quiet before the storm was regarding the political atmosphere.... not a war LOL Only the EU could save you ! Without the EU , the generals gone overrun Ankara again and again !
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 30, 2009 14:41:08 GMT -5
Cyprus is a large island located in the Eastern Aegean area of the Mediterranean or be called Greece number two Cyprus is richer than Albania and Cyprus like the Northern Epirotes. is EU member states had the "right" to veto Albania to join to the European Union ! Where did you study ? not at Hoxha's time like you i27.tinypic.com/16jljj8.jpg[/img]
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 14:49:22 GMT -5
Cyprus is a large island located in the Eastern Aegean area of the Mediterranean or be called Greece number two Cyprus is richer than Albania and Cyprus like the Northern Epirotes. is EU member states had the "right" to veto Albania to join to the European Union Where did you study ? not at Hoxha's time like you This was the original post : Cyprus ? What is Cyprus ? ;D _________________ Fool !
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 30, 2009 14:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 14:59:24 GMT -5
When Hristo was talking to the people of Jerusalem , your country was under the Roman occupation ! ;D
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 30, 2009 15:24:21 GMT -5
;D ;D On the left site is the Roman Empire the Greek Empire is on the right site Constantinople-Jerusalem
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 16:05:00 GMT -5
On the left site is the Roman Empire the Greek Empire is on the right site Constantinople-Jerusalem Bullshit ! The Roman Empire was divided : Roman Western Empire and Roman Eastern Empire ! In both Empires the official language was Latin ! Mostly in the Roman Eastern Empire the dynasty was called "Latin Dynasty" !
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Post by tsompanos on Jul 30, 2009 16:06:19 GMT -5
Aris i wonder if you really belive some of the stuff you write here or if your just trolling every time
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Post by Aris on Jul 30, 2009 16:08:08 GMT -5
Aris i wonder if you really belive some of the stuff you write here or if your just trolling every time But is truth ! There was nothing like the Byzantine Empire ! It was the Roman Eastern Empire !
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Post by tsompanos on Jul 30, 2009 16:09:39 GMT -5
who said otherwise?
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