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Post by toskaliku on Oct 20, 2010 22:15:41 GMT -5
So long as they continue to dominate business as they do now in Tetova and continue to bring in the money from the diaspora, the people will be drawn to it. It will have to go hand in hand with ethnic expansion.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 21, 2010 0:29:00 GMT -5
As my last trip to Bulgaria proved, the differences between the balkan slavs are negligible. Albos are trapped inside a slavic sea. Eh whatever. Albs only have issues with the Serbs, Montenegrins and FYROM Slavs. Albs have decent to ok relations with Croats, Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Muslim Slavs and so forth. In other words people who haven't had the pleasure of being in proximity with large groups of Shqiptars. Though your words ring hollow when you consider what Shqiptars have done to the Gorani, to Bulgars who dare speak Bulgarian in Kosovo Metohija and to Croat villagers after the war was over.
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Post by toskaliku on Oct 21, 2010 0:31:54 GMT -5
The Croat villagers didnt suffer ethnic attack, they were attacked by the instability that war created and the poverty it left many in. The Gorani who sided with the Serbs had/have it coming... the Gorani who did not are safely and happily speaking Albanian in the many cities of Kosova today... they have willfully chosen to become Albanianized. Like many other Slav Muslims.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 5:30:07 GMT -5
^^^ So you openly admit that Albos did ethnic cleaning against non-albs, and that constitutes a genocide of the highest degree.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 5:58:57 GMT -5
I doubt the bosnian muslims would exchange half of "Mesa Selimovic" for 1000 of the best Albanian writers. So what you say is great BS. Slavs (even muslims) have a superior culture than the albs.
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 6:03:24 GMT -5
Bosnian Muslims hate everybody who isn't Bosnian Muslims. As for Albanians they are calling you Arab-inbreeds. They even don't consider you either Illyrian or Balkan at all. Actually neither Balkan nation consider you Balkanian
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 6:18:01 GMT -5
Bosnian Muslims hate everybody who isn't Bosnian Muslims. As for Albanians they are calling you Arab-inbreeds. They even don't consider you either Illyrian or Balkan at all. Actually neither Balkan nation consider you Balkanian quite funny knowing we have paleo-balkanic origins and language ... and you don't ! Albanian language has no European roots. Only "new" words in Albanian has Balto-Slavo-Germanic and Greek origins, thus Indo-European. All this paleo-balkanic origin theory is based on assumption.
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Post by logjiktek on Oct 21, 2010 6:24:58 GMT -5
So long as they continue to dominate business as they do now in Tetova and continue to bring in the money from the diaspora, the people will be drawn to it. It will have to go hand in hand with ethnic expansion. Most of the Torbesh in Macedonia have family in the diaspora. Whether it be Italy, Germany, US, etc. They are pretty well off. Naturally a better Albanian economy will induce many of them to say they are Albanian. In kercova we have a village called Bacista (which is extremely nice btw since the diaspora has really fixed it up) and they claim to be Albanian but speak Slavo-Macedonian (although the younger generation is speaking Albo more and more.) As long as they speak that Slavic filth as their primary tongue, no assimilation will ever take place....ever! Albanians will refuse to acknowledge them as their own. They even ridicule them. Even the term Baqisht is used an insult for Albanians that live in the West and can't speak Albanian properly.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 6:37:47 GMT -5
quite funny knowing we have paleo-balkanic origins and language ... and you don't ! Albanian language has no European roots. Only "new" words in Albanian has Balto-Slavo-Germanic and Greek origins, thus Indo-European. All this paleo-balkanic origin theory is based on assumption. Just take a look at some of their common words (curses) of everyday life which look pure Serbian or Greek illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hellasgreece&action=display&thread=31625Kurva : Serbian Pustis : Greek Picka : Serbian .... the rest sound arabian
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 6:57:47 GMT -5
so basically you have nothing to answer to Serbian sccientists who consider that paleo-balkanic origins of Albanians can't be discussed ... And for the Goranis, the (non existent) answer of pyrros speaks for itself ... Gorani are not Slavs, just slavophonic people.
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Post by logjiktek on Oct 21, 2010 7:03:33 GMT -5
Albanian language has no European roots. Only "new" words in Albanian has Balto-Slavo-Germanic and Greek origins, thus Indo-European. All this paleo-balkanic origin theory is based on assumption. Just take a look at some of their common words (curses) of everyday life which look pure Serbian or Greek illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hellasgreece&action=display&thread=31625Kurva : Serbian Pustis : Greek Picka : Serbian .... the rest sound arabian Ofc we would use words like kurva and picka. The majority of Albanian males have lost their "v" card to Slavic kurvas. We communicate to them using these words.
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 7:07:15 GMT -5
Ofc we would use words like kurva and picka. The majority of Albanian males have lost their "v" card to Slavic kurvas. We communicate to them using these words. So you were ass-raped by Slavs...Must've been really unpleasant and embarrassing to speak(back then) about your homosexual side.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 7:11:13 GMT -5
so basically you have nothing to answer to Serbian sccientists who consider that paleo-balkanic origins of Albanians can't be discussed ... And for the Goranis, the (non existent) answer of pyrros speaks for itself ... Gorani are not Slavs, just slavophonic people. How do you define "Slavs"?
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 7:31:59 GMT -5
Gorani are not Slavs, just slavophonic people. How do you define "Slavs"? Slavic look is well known to people here I assume, but Slavs also have similar cultural and traditional values, apart from language. Gorani don't look Slavic at all or do they have similar traditional and cultural values.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 9:20:19 GMT -5
How do you define "Slavs"? Slavic look is well known to people here I assume, but Slavs also have similar cultural and traditional values, apart from language. Gorani don't look Slavic at all or do they have similar traditional and cultural values. IMHO *many* Serbs from Serbia look more like greeks while e.g. Bosnian muslims from posavina look like germans. And in many cases *some* Serbs from south Serbia are even darker than Greeks. A comparison of the national teams (basketball/football) of Serbia/Croatia/BiH/CG/fyrMakedonia/Greece//Bulgaria/Turkey could serve as a first indication. So, i think that Slavdom is smth in the soul/mind/culture and not in the body.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 9:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by donnie on Oct 21, 2010 9:39:56 GMT -5
You meant to say "they dont look non-Slavic IMO" retard, not anti-slav which has a comletely different meaning.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 9:54:48 GMT -5
You meant to say "they dont look non-Slavic IMO" retard, not anti-slav which has a comletely different meaning. BOU HA HA HA POKEMOOOOOOOOONNNNN You replied like a fart as always, you edited your stupid message and yet you still had spelling mistakes!! YOU ARE AN UNBELIEVABLE POKEMON!
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 21, 2010 10:15:39 GMT -5
The Croat villagers didnt suffer ethnic attack, they were attacked by the instability that war created and the poverty it left many in. The Gorani who sided with the Serbs had/have it coming... the Gorani who did not are safely and happily speaking Albanian in the many cities of Kosova today... they have willfully chosen to become Albanianized. Like many other Slav Muslims. You fail the recognise that the vast majority of non-Shqiptars have either been driven north to the safety of Serb dominated areas, have been expelled out of Kosovo Metohija entirely or have been killed. You can pretend all you like that Shqiptars (as a whole) aren't unilaterally responsible but you'd be lying to yourself. Shqiptars are simply hostile to non-Shqiptars by default. Whereas Serbs are simply hostile to non-Serbs that mistreat Serbs.
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Post by donnie on Oct 21, 2010 10:52:25 GMT -5
You meant to say "they dont look non-Slavic IMO" retard, not anti-slav which has a comletely different meaning. BOU HA HA HA POKEMOOOOOOOOONNNNN You replied like a fart as always, you edited your stupid message and yet you still had spelling mistakes!! YOU ARE AN UNBELIEVABLE POKEMON! I edited it because I forgot to add "not anti-slav which has a comletely different meaning" .. no need to thank me on lecturing you. And the spelling mistake was a typo, I know it's spelled "completely", in contrast to your "anti-slav" which isnt a typo at all, just you trying to sound cleaver in a language you dont master so good.
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