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Post by balkanac on Sept 2, 2011 6:21:07 GMT -5
Hmm, a lot of Bosnian Serbs fought with Srbijanci Serbs during 15 cent. Does the Mrnjavcevic brothers remind of anything? Well of course they are Serbs, they were from Serbia and belonged to the Serbian Orthodox Church, and above all referred to themselves as Serbs. Now about the germanic vs slavic tribes etc.... i know that Berlin till 1150 AD belonged to the slavs, and the local ruler was named Pribislav. After his death the land fell into germanic hands. So i guess it could be the other way around.... I agree that a lot of slavifications happened, but in most of the cases as Florin Curta shows, those happened on a volunteer basis. Romans/Greeks/Germans run to the ranks of Slavs to live a free life. Slavs were great people until they adopted various Abrahamic religions. Then they started following ridiculous rules laid out by their holy texts.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 2, 2011 6:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 3, 2011 3:52:53 GMT -5
But Ghegs are the part of Albos that have Greek ancestry. ^ one thing i know is that greek arvanites, may not speak the cleanest greek around, and may not exactly match genuine greek mentality, but regarding looks, they are a lot closer to greeks than any red-haired/blond/short alb. Yeah why the fuck do Albanians have weird looks and ginger hair? They're like clowns
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Post by ulf on Sept 3, 2011 8:28:11 GMT -5
one thing i know is that greek arvanites, may not speak the cleanest greek around, and may not exactly match genuine greek mentality, but regarding looks, they are a lot closer to greeks than any red-haired/blond/short alb. Yeah why the f**k do Albanians have weird looks and ginger hair? They're like clowns What does ginger hair has to do with the appearance? I have ginger hair yet I have eastern look
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 3, 2011 8:38:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they will have a Eastern European look if they're from Albania-just with ginger hair
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Post by ulf on Sept 3, 2011 8:46:59 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they will have a Eastern European look if they're from Albania-just with ginger hair I know, but overall its rare combination among people in Balkan
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 3, 2011 9:10:48 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they will have a Eastern European look if they're from Albania-just with ginger hair half of blond brits have an eastern european look (blond), dont get mad.
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Post by darkness on Sept 3, 2011 10:01:58 GMT -5
this is the beautiful part of the balkan,you have all kind of people blond,redhaired,black and brown..i know that in kosova you have many blond ones,and they all have those ice blue eyes wich i like.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 3, 2011 11:59:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they will have a Eastern European look if they're from Albania-just with ginger hair half of blond brits have an eastern european look (blond), dont get mad. That's ok i'm fine with my Neolithic Wog from Asia Minor type look a nice tan with brunette hair and dark eyes.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2011 3:10:28 GMT -5
Just read some responses, look, kosovo serbs have variations, some very dark to some extremely light. I don't agree kosovo serbs are *shorter* than Albanians, maybe the same, but not shorter. Kosovo Albanians *do* have also serbian origins, with, as krivo says, turkic. Take my immediate family, my mum pale white, ghost skin with black hair and very dark eyes, my dad, dark blond hair with sky blue eyes but olive complexion. Me and my brothers have dark brown hair, dark eyes (me dark hazel eyes) and olive complexion. Middle brother 1.92m, me 1.90m, youngest 1.85m etc...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 4, 2011 3:27:10 GMT -5
PRAVI Srbin!!
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Post by missanthropology58 on Sept 4, 2011 3:37:03 GMT -5
Just read some responses, look, kosovo serbs have variations, some very dark to some extremely light. I don't agree kosovo serbs are *shorter* than Albanians, maybe the same, but not shorter. Kosovo Albanians *do* have also serbian origins, with, as krivo says, turkic. Take my immediate family, my mum pale white, ghost skin with black hair and very dark eyes, my dad, dark blond hair with sky blue eyes but olive complexion. Me and my brothers have dark brown hair, dark eyes (me dark hazel eyes) and olive complexion. Middle brother 1.92m, me 1.90m, youngest 1.85m etc... Define Turks or Turkic as a race?!? Turkey is a mongrel country with over 700 years of fucking the Balkans. Turkey refuses to give dna tests.
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Post by terroreign on Sept 5, 2011 0:46:20 GMT -5
with the turks come a mixture of near eastern ethnicities; armenians, circassians, tartars, arabs, iranians as well as mongoloids/turanids
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Post by ulf on Sept 5, 2011 8:51:33 GMT -5
Just read some responses, look, kosovo serbs have variations, some very dark to some extremely light. I don't agree kosovo serbs are *shorter* than Albanians, maybe the same, but not shorter. Kosovo Albanians *do* have also serbian origins, with, as krivo says, turkic. Take my immediate family, my mum pale white, ghost skin with black hair and very dark eyes, my dad, dark blond hair with sky blue eyes but olive complexion. Me and my brothers have dark brown hair, dark eyes (me dark hazel eyes) and olive complexion. Middle brother 1.92m, me 1.90m, youngest 1.85m etc... Its no surprise. Slavs are highly adapted people. I have seen dark blond Poles who can get really dark tan and in so short time. Me and my moms side of family are just happy if we get that light bronze tan, but usually we just burn our skins, but dad and his side of family get that nice red-brown tan
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Post by odel on Sept 5, 2011 10:19:27 GMT -5
Just read some responses, look, kosovo serbs have variations, some very dark to some extremely light. I don't agree kosovo serbs are *shorter* than Albanians, maybe the same, but not shorter. Kosovo Albanians *do* have also serbian origins, with, as krivo says, turkic. Take my immediate family, my mum pale white, ghost skin with black hair and very dark eyes, my dad, dark blond hair with sky blue eyes but olive complexion. Me and my brothers have dark brown hair, dark eyes (me dark hazel eyes) and olive complexion. Middle brother 1.92m, me 1.90m, youngest 1.85m etc... Serbs from Kosova are noticeably shorter than Kosovars, you and your family being tall doesn't refute that Albanians in Kosova are on average a good deal taller than the Serbs in Kosova.
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Post by coke&broke on Sept 5, 2011 13:01:01 GMT -5
Just read some responses, look, kosovo serbs have variations, some very dark to some extremely light. I don't agree kosovo serbs are *shorter* than Albanians, maybe the same, but not shorter. Kosovo Albanians *do* have also serbian origins, with, as krivo says, turkic. Take my immediate family, my mum pale white, ghost skin with black hair and very dark eyes, my dad, dark blond hair with sky blue eyes but olive complexion. Me and my brothers have dark brown hair, dark eyes (me dark hazel eyes) and olive complexion. Middle brother 1.92m, me 1.90m, youngest 1.85m etc... Serbs from Kosova are noticeably shorter than Kosovars, you and your family being tall doesn't refute that Albanians in Kosova are on average a good deal taller than the Serbs in Kosova. Don't mind Novi, he's been expelling the same projectile vomit for a few years now with nothing to back it up. The fact that he's not been in Kosova for a very long time and seems to know very little of the place doesn't seem to faze him when debating with people who grew up there (until the outbreak of war) and visit annually like most Albanian Kosovars -- whereas Novi probably hasn't left the comfort of his own Australian home to visit his homeland for over a decade or so. There have been studies posted ON HERE before that postulated the greater height of Kosovar Albs in comparison to K. Serbs, but of course Novi the armchair historian, linguist, scientist, geographer etc. knows best. My maternal family hail from the Peje region of Kosove, which contains a large Bosniak presence in certain villages, and I was surprised to find that Albanian Kosovars from that region were taller than Kosovar Bosniaks too. It's not just the height issue either, they can't seem to form a consensus on our origins either. In the last few months or so, looking at the forum, we've been everything from Serbs, Turks, Caucasians/Chechens, Franks, North African (lol)... Anything but the widely established understanding that we're natives to the land.
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Post by odel on Sept 5, 2011 15:17:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it shows...
Do you have access to any of these studies? I'd like to see one of those, it interests me and would be great if you had one of them.
And yeah, the Albanians from Peje and generally Dukagjini as well are quite tall which is only logical seeing as they're much closer to the zone of Balkan giants; the Dinaric alps.
It is quite pathetic, they'd rather believe in Aliens and UFO's rather than Albanians are native to the Balkans even though it is as you said established in all academic circles.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 5, 2011 15:27:26 GMT -5
sure guys, and since there is no basketball team from Kosovo (with Serbs), lets compare the teams of fyr-Makedonia against Albania, shall we? LOL No Name Pos. Height Birth date Place of birth 4 Dimitar Mirakovski PG 1.78 14.05.1981 Strumica (MKD) 5 Ilievski PG 1.87 19.01.1980 Strumica (MKD) 6 Darko Sokolov PG 1.90 08.05.1986 Kocani (MKD) 7 Bo McCalebb PG 1.78 04.05.1985 LA (USA) 8 Vojdan Stojanovski SG 1.94 09.12.1987 Skopje (MKD) 9 Damjan Stojanovski SG 1.93 09.12.1987 Skopje (MKD) 10 Marko Simonovski SG 1.92 28.06.1989 Skopje (MKD) 11 Todor Gechevski PF 2.08 28.08.1977 Kavadarci (MKD) 12 Pero Antic PF 2.10 29.07.1982 Skopje (MKD) 13 Ivica Dimcevski PF 2.00 27.06.1989 Skopje (MKD) 14 Gjorgij Chekovski PF 2.02 11.12.1979 Skopje (MKD) 15 Predrag Samardziski C 2.15 11.04.1986 Skopje (MKD) vs Onaldo Ago SF 1.95 09.03.1981 Tirana (ALB) Nikolin Arra C 2.02 01.06.1991 Shkodaer (ALB) Fjorentin Bircaj PF 2.00 08.08.1989 Vlore (ALB) Alban Cela SG 1.90 27.12.1989 Elbasan (ALB) Ardian Domi SF 1.92 08.10.1984 Elbasan (ALB) Andrea Gjinaj C 2.08 26.05.1986 Tirane (ALB) Florian Ismeti PG 1.80 10.04.1989 Tirana (ALB) Erkand Karaj PG 1.88 03.05.1982 Tirana (ALB) Devid Konomi PF 2.05 09.10.1990 Pogradec (ALB) Arjonel Lame SF 1.96 08.01.1984 Tirana (ALB) Ersid Luca C 2.12 10.05.1981 Bijelo Polje (MNE) Vildan Mitku SF 1.96 26.01.1983 Shkoder (ALB) 5 Red Vogli SG 1.90 29.04.1987 Tirana (ALB) 7 Franko Bushati SG 1.90 05.07.1985 Tirana (ALB) 8 Marsel Aliaj PF 1.96 31.05.1988 Durres (ALB) 9 Eni Llazani SG 1.86 30.11.1989 Shkoder (ALB) 11 Genti Lasku PG 1.83 24.03.1985 Tirana (ALB) 12 Ermal Kuqo C 2.08 12.02.1980 Korçë (ALB) 13 Algert Gjonaj SF 1.98 18.10.1987 Mat (ALB) 14 Endrit Hysenagolli C 2.01 05.07.1988 Tirana (ALB) 15 Gerti Shima PF 2.02 09.05.1986 Tirana (ALB) 20 Marlin Sukaj PF 2.02 01.01.1983 Tirana (ALB) 23 Eni Cuka PG 1.88 12.08.1986 Tirane (ALB) 31 Juxhin Talelli SF 1.98 21.05.1986 Tirane (ALB) so, the tallest alb (and the only one above 210cm was born in ..... Bijelo Polje (MNE) nuff said. Albs = shortest nation in the balkans (and i guess whole europe).... verified and confirmed.....
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Post by uz on Sept 5, 2011 15:29:44 GMT -5
;D - Sure native, but native to what ?
You guys have hopped fences since the beginning of your records; taking up all kinds of different cultures (within the balkans and outer) this includes languages.
These natives you speak of, no longer exist; language no longer can be said as a factor, culture-relation doesn`t exist (assimilation-aspect mentioned above), what do you hold that is `native-Balkan`` ?
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Post by odel on Sept 5, 2011 15:46:45 GMT -5
;D - Sure native, but native to what ? You guys have hopped fences since the beginning of your records; taking up all kinds of different cultures (within the balkans and outer) this includes languages. These natives you speak of, no longer exist; language no longer can be said as a factor, culture-relation doesn`t exist (assimilation-aspect mentioned above), what do you hold that is `native-Balkan`` ? It's quite obvious that you're quite ignorant on this subject, read a book will you? As for Pyrros, Basketball teams have nothing to do with average height, for someone who brags so much about his math skills you do seem unable to understand that a small group of individuals by no means represent an acceptable average.
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