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Post by Arxileas on Jun 29, 2008 8:52:47 GMT -5
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Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 55 Karma: -5 Re: Epirus,primordial Greece... « Reply #71 Today at 3:43pm » i wonder why on these so called former greek lands in the present there is virtually not trace of anything remotely resembling greek culture where in northern greece we can see evidence of the albanian footprint in every square inch of these epiriotic territories, not to mention that as much as 30% of greek population is either directly or indirectly albanian comuflaged as greeks, there is countless accounts of historians describing these areas as being populated by albanians, there are an infinite number of records of population census taken by the ottoman empire where albanian names dominate resoundingly, we've had accounts of travellers depicting the life of these epirus lands, describing the gracefull yet fierce albanian warriors, the majestic dance of suliots who regarded themselfes as albanian, and in no time during these depictions anything greek ever features in them,
it is sad however the extent of the greek fabrications at the turn of the 18'th centuary at the height of greek patriotism when virtually all lands in around the mediterranian were regarded as their own, making up wild stories that defy belief, it is disgracefull how children in schools are being fed with this distorted propaganda of greek supremacy and are repeatedly being brainwashed with a history which is not even based on anything credible, time will tell, and a lot of bulls**t is surfacing, a lot of people are realising how misguided the greek nation is, the truth shall set you free!!!!
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Have moved your post here since you base your claims on assumptions with out any proof what’s so ever also hate to see a good thread destroyed due to blind nationalism.
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 29, 2008 8:54:10 GMT -5
You wouldn't even know what the truth is, even if it hit ya in the face ! Stand back and leave Greek history to the Greeks to enjoy their legacy... It's painful to see people who lack any history and culture, try and adopt it as theirs. .
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Post by libofsha on Jun 29, 2008 9:23:04 GMT -5
It's painful to see people who lack any history and culture, try and adopt it as theirs. . now we're gettin' somewhere, now memorise this and repeat it to the other greeks drones that have been intellectually crippled by the travesty that is greek history.
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 29, 2008 11:40:53 GMT -5
Actually I feel good when they try to imitate us... I mean they are Albanians ..... so who really GAFF? ;D IT's no use getting upset over something so trivial.
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Post by greek1234 on Jun 29, 2008 11:52:18 GMT -5
Actually I feel good when they try to imitate us... I mean they are Albanians ..... so who really GAFF? ;D IT's no use getting upset over something so trivial. monkey see, monkey do....
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Post by libofsha on Jun 29, 2008 12:17:18 GMT -5
Actually I feel good when they try to imitate us... I mean they are Albanians ..... so who really GAFF? ;D IT's no use getting upset over something so trivial. i love these persian bastard offsprings, they have deluasions of grandure
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 29, 2008 12:27:26 GMT -5
I hope for a second you don't place yourself,being an albanian, anywhere even remotely close to what the Persians or ancient Persia has offered this world... You have to understand that you are Albanian first... then we have little to converse about unless you want to get into an discussion about late 20th century success rates of the Albanian mafia... then you got us beat 100 to 1 and I will shut my mouth.
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Post by libofsha on Jun 29, 2008 12:56:36 GMT -5
[qoute] what the Persians or ancient Persia has offered this world.[/quote]
they gave/plagued us with a confused, second rate, bastard mongrel race that claim greek descent, who killed and exiled their own people because they belonged to a different religion,
i hope for a second you are not telling me you were not a victim of greek clergy paedophelia mate
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 29, 2008 13:07:28 GMT -5
I think you are losing it and getting upset.... I betcha you would have drawn out the knife by now if I was close enough.... in keeping in the spirit of a true Albanian. Lose the altitude and don't blame us for what you are.
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Post by libofsha on Jun 29, 2008 13:37:00 GMT -5
heh, we do not make excuses about who we are mate, we take pride in what we stand for you self-loathing, year around tanned, sub saharan, over glorified persian nomad, don't talk to me about pride you sad old s**te, if you had as much as an ounce of my pride i would at least respect a reptillian like you, don't forget you were our peasants for hundreds of years and almost every major historical event that has transpired over the last 2 centuries in greece is in one way or another related to albanians.....that includes your fight for independence, whenever you have needed someone to do fighting you have always called on the albs...never hesitant to draw that knife out to lend a helping hand, is that enough contribution for you?
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 29, 2008 16:06:44 GMT -5
But..but but but ...you're still an Albanian..... and I am part of the greatest civilization and culture that ever existed. Now when can I hire you to build me a wall.... ? ;D
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Post by libofsha on Jun 29, 2008 16:22:32 GMT -5
no shame in hard honest labour mate....don't take the piss like that, makes you look like a prick, because i know a lot of albs that have worked construction in greece and have now started their own businesses, a lot of greek people i have met that have migrated abroad have and still work in costruction, don't forget greeks are pioneers of migrant workforce dude so lets not forget the no so distant past, it wasn't to long ago in germany when you had sings in the tolilets saying 'no greeks and dogs allowed'
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Post by Niklianos on Jun 29, 2008 17:14:51 GMT -5
"i wonder why on these so called former greek lands in the present there is virtually not trace of anything remotely resembling greek culture where in northern greece we can see evidence of the albanian footprint in every square inch of these epiriotic territories,"
Oh really Libofsha?
So which Greek culture are you discussing? Proto-Greek? Bronze Age Greeks? Athenians? Spartans? Macedonians? Epirots? Corinthians? Arcadians? Hellenistic Greeks? Byzantine Greeks?
What exactly do you claim is Greek culture?
It seems to me that you are a very confused person who has no idea about Archaeology and History. Do you think that all the Greeks of today only got there Greek names and culture 'at the turn of the 18th century'?? If you do you are sadly mistaken! There are numerous accounts from Ancient to modern times of Greeks and their Greek names and various Greek cultures. So your claims are nothing more than baseless, neo-nationalist and anti-Greek ranting!
You use your emotions to think for you and not Logic.
If you want to debate feel free to present your un-biased sources and I will prove you and your sources wrong.
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 29, 2008 18:10:55 GMT -5
I love it when they tie up their undies in a knot... It's so easy to get them going.
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Post by albquietman on Jun 29, 2008 23:32:08 GMT -5
Well, it's better than using greek ways, to force you to bend over, and then.... I think he did...I see kisses
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Post by libofsha on Jun 30, 2008 6:21:23 GMT -5
"i wonder why on these so called former greek lands in the present there is virtually not trace of anything remotely resembling greek culture where in northern greece we can see evidence of the albanian footprint in every square inch of these epiriotic territories," Oh really Libofsha? So which Greek culture are you discussing? Proto-Greek? Bronze Age Greeks? Athenians? Spartans? Macedonians? Epirots? Corinthians? Arcadians? Hellenistic Greeks? Byzantine Greeks? What exactly do you claim is Greek culture? It seems to me that you are a very confused person who has no idea about Archaeology and History. Do you think that all the Greeks of today only got there Greek names and culture 'at the turn of the 18th century'?? If you do you are sadly mistaken! There are numerous accounts from Ancient to modern times of Greeks and their Greek names and various Greek cultures. So your claims are nothing more than baseless, neo-nationalist and anti-Greek ranting! You use your emotions to think for you and not Logic. If you want to debate feel free to present your un-biased sources and I will prove you and your sources wrong. facts? what do you want me to do, provide you with numerous links from unbiased authors or perhaps rummage through a few history books and provide you with information, spent hours trying to shed some light in the dark recesses of your twisted version of history so you just discredit everything in a whim of indiference? educate yourself, i'm telling you things that common truths, things i have seen and lived and i am from the south of alb, i am from that region in discussion so i would be a little better suited to advise on this matter, wouldn't sire agree? coming in here professing credible sources and argumental facts like you are some kind of an all knowing oracle when you haven't even stepped foot in any of those areas, you get so pumped up by sick fabricated propaganda and you start to believe that its your devine right as a greek to stake a claim to all of the balkans, whatever...
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Post by chalkedon on Jun 30, 2008 6:58:58 GMT -5
libo...
As soon as albanians are confirmed in being part illyrians, since there is nothing of that for you to show us...all you will be is turkified remnants of a hoxha atheist nation that is now trying to claim history like our fyromian friends..
we all know how that is going to turn out...
good luck
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Post by libofsha on Jun 30, 2008 7:14:37 GMT -5
do you actually believe that we are not the descendants of the illyrians?
lets hear your enlightening theory about how we just sprung up overnight and sprawled all over the balkans and why our language is so distinct to everyone else's(that's a testament is itself)
do not give me that turkofied bollox as a wounded pride response, greeks and turks visually can not be picked apart....
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Post by chalkedon on Jun 30, 2008 7:18:20 GMT -5
to answer your first question...
yes..i do think you are desc. of illyrians...but maybe so are the croats, and other ppl close to adriatic area.
To answer your second...yes greeks & turks look alike. And thats due to the fact that most turks from asia minor have GREEK blood in them.
And a third i would like to throw in..
dont use the same propaganda sub saharan bs like the fyromians do. You will just lose credibility...
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Post by chalkedon on Jun 30, 2008 7:20:13 GMT -5
your tyring to claim albos that fought for Greece as your " own "
Thats like us greeks claiming muslim greeks that fought for Turkey as one of our " own "
The only difference is that we dont want them, we dont claim them and if anybody asked us who they are...we always respond turks
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