Post by atlantis on Jul 2, 2008 15:40:52 GMT -5
Once again, those words are not only Homeric but Classical Greek, Hellenistic Greek and Byzantine Greek.
So the only thing it really shows about the Ghegs is that at the latest they came around in during the Byzantine period before the Ottomans. Also as I stated before the vast majority of those Homeric/Classical/Byzantine words are still in the modern Greek vocabulary, they just are not used as commonly as they once were.
As far as Gheg being used to understand Homeric Greek
So you have taken a few loan words from Greek into the Gheg dialect of Albanian and now you can easily understand Homer in it's original text?
Thanks for the great laughs.
I think you shold get a Ice Cream with Canaris and see what the other people are thinking....
is not albanian is not Enver Hoxha,it's not me....
(George Fred Williams 1914)- If we return to pre-history, before rapsodik homer sang to godesses and methodology heroes, before greek language was written, one well known nation lived with the name of Pellazg. Albanians are the only ancestors who have the origins from this powerfull prehistoric race. Recently has been established that Pellazg - et were ancient Ilirs. Albanian was the true language of Homer, as the Greeks have copied from rapsodian Pellazg their wealthy epos. Kujtim Shehu, Kacanik - translated from the book by Dhimitri Pilika "Pellazg - Our Denied Origin" who has completed an extensive research on the origins of Pellazg.
And try to understand here...
www.elsie.de/pub/b30.html
And keep laghing again......
ALBANIAN----------HOMERIC---------------GREEK-----------------ENGLISH
anda (ënda)-----------Andha-no--------------Efharistisi-----------------Joy
Sy----------------------Ose-------------------Mati--------------------Eye
Dor(ë),dor(a)-------Ekedeka-dor(o)-----------Heri--------------------Hand
Lesh------------------Lasios-------------------Mali--------------------Hair
Mi, miu----------------Mis-----------------Pondiki,mis---------------Mouse
Heq,helkj--------------Elko------------------Travao------------------Pull
Marr (mar)-----------Mar-pto-----------------Perno------------------Take
Edhe,dhe-------------Idhe, te-------------------Ke--------------------And
Arë,ara--------------Arura------------------Horáfi-------------------Field
Qas,kias-------------Hio,Kio-----------------Simono----------------Bring close
Punë(a)---------------Ponos-----------------Dhuliá-------------------Job,work
kalë,kali -------------Kelis-tos --------------Alogo--------------------Horse
Krye(krie)----------Krithen, kari-------------Kefali--------------------Head
Re, Retë---------------Rea------------------Sinefo-------------------Cloud
Vesh,Vishem -------Ves(this),Vesnimi -------Forao-------------------Wear
Lepur ---------------Leporis ----------------Lagos-------------------Rabbit
Qen, kieni-------------Kion -----------------Skilos-------------------Dog
Rronjë(rroj)---------Ronio, ronimi-----------Zo, akmazo--------------I Live
Ruaj, Rojtar---------Rio, Ritor---------------Filáso---------------Guard,guardian
Ik, iki -----------------Iko -------------------Fevgo-------------------Leave
Lig ----------------Lig(ios), ligos ---------adhinatos,kakos-------------Bad
Ethe---------------Ethir, Ethæe ------------- Piretos-------------------Feever
Rrah --------------Rahso, raso ------------Dherno, htipao-------------Beat
Mjeshtër -----------Mistor --------------Tehnitis,mastoras-------------Master
Ne(neve) ----------- noi ----------------------- Emis--------------------We
Rri --------------- e-ri-dhome -------------- Kathome-----------------I sit,stay
Vend(ved) --------ved-os, vedh-os -------edhafos, topos-------------Place,ground
Mendoj,mendohem ---- medhome --------Skeftome, nus---------------Think over
Më duket -----------dhoki mi ------------------Nomizo------------------I think
Errët(errësirë) ------ere-vos ------------------Skotos----------------Dark,darknes
Th(ë)rres,thrras -----Threo, throos -------------Fonazo-------------------Yell
Elb, elbi ------------ Alfiton -------------------Krithari--------------------Barley
Para(përpara)-------Paros --------------------Brostá--------------------In front
Për-apa(për-apsh)---Apsi,aps -----------------Piso------------------------Back
Për ty ---------------Par ti -------------------Ia sena--------------------For you
Nëm ,nemje --------Neme-sis,---------------- Katara--------------------"Curse"
Vanë(shkuan) -------van ----------------------Pigan---------------------Went(they)
Hedh ---------------Heo --------------------Rihno,Tinazo---------------Drop
Enë(veshje) --------Enimi --------------------Ruho----------------------Clothes
Dhe, dheu(tokë) ---Gea,dhor, dha ------------Gi-------------------------Earth
Nuk ---------------- Niuk --------------------Dhen---------------------Not
Udhë, udha ---------Udhos ------------------Odhos,dhromos-----------Road
Verë(stina e verës)---Vear-------------------- Kalokeri-----------------Summer
Shkop ------------skipon,skiptro-------------Ravdhi-------------------Stick,rod
Torrë --------------Tornoo------------------ Pyrgos-------------------Tower
Kor --------------- Kiro ---------------------Thiro---------------------Harvest
Mëri,mëní---------- Minis --------------------Thimos-------------------Anger
Marr(-ë),i marrë---Margos ------------------Trelos--------------------Crazy
Nisem ------------Nisome ------------------Ksekinao----------------(Begin)
Flas --------------Flio,Fliaro-----------------Milao---------------------Speak
Lehem(lind) ------Leho, Lohia -------------Genieme-------------------Born
Fryma,frima-------Frimao -----------------Fisima,anapnoi-------------Breath
Shkel ------------ Skel-os -----------------Patao---------------------Step on
Deti ------------- Theti-s -----------------Thalassa-------------------the sea
Ndaj,daj---------Dheo, deo --------------Horizo----------------Divide,separate
Krua, kroi -------Krunos -----------------Vrisi,pigi------------------Spring
Dru -----------Dris,drimos,driti -----------Ksilo----------------------Wood
Lutem ----------Litome -------------------Parakalo------------------Please,beg
Nuse -----------Nisos, Nios --------------Nifi -----------------------Bride
Ter(thaj) --------Ter-so -------------------Stegnono------------------
Vesë, ve(r)sa----- Versi --------------------Dhrosos-----------------Dew
Dera ------------Thira --------------------Porta,thira-----------------Dor
Kall(djeg) ------Kileo ---------------------Keo-----------------------Burn
Zien ------------Zei -----------------------Vrazi----------------------Boils
Loz - ljoz------- lizo -----------------------Pezo----------------------Play
Bashkë iki------Vask ithi ------------------Porevume-------------Step forward
Mjet,fill ---------Mitos -------------------Nima hondro--------------Thread
Tata,Ati, i jati----Tata, Ata, Getas ----------Pateras-------------------Father
Anda(ënda) -----Andha-no ---------------Efkharistisi-----------------Pleasure