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Post by Kubrat on Sept 24, 2009 10:19:32 GMT -5
she only sang about 10% of the time. you could actually tell when she was singing. the dancing... apparently she 'collapsed' twice there was also piss poor management by SME and others
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Post by Kubrat on Sept 13, 2009 14:12:27 GMT -5
concert was a bit of a disappointment while the field was left in shambles.
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Post by Kubrat on Sept 13, 2009 14:09:04 GMT -5
what can you do? it's the Bulgarian way
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Post by Kubrat on Jul 12, 2009 10:59:21 GMT -5
there really were no other real options. but i don't think such a land slide victory is good. I also think people forgot way too easily what kostov did, he should be in jail.
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Post by Kubrat on Jul 10, 2009 13:31:28 GMT -5
to be honest, i don't have too much faith in GERB as well, Boyko's history is a little iffy... they're all crooks
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 15:21:26 GMT -5
you claimed stupid false remarks, 'serbia held out longer, serbia is the strongest' foolish comments
it's a timeline that isn't very informative. also yugoslavia does not equal serbia
[/quote] kubrat! And we are not talking who invented what here, WE ARE TALKING WHO IS THE MOST ADVANCED NATION IN THE BALKANS.
PERIOD.
IN THE BALKANS STUPIDO[/quote]
between 1800 - 1900 it wasn't serbia
between 1900 - 2000 it wasn't serbia
between 2000 - now it isn't serbia.
mind your manners and get rid of your ego.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 15:16:33 GMT -5
there are videos yo can find on youtube of at least 50 russian tanks in kosovo alone.
numbers aside, they aided serbia in manner and ways you would not have expected. typical serbian mentality "WE are the best.. WE did everything.. We..." no wonder Yugoslavia broke up.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 15:13:31 GMT -5
1867 - Serbia becomes de facto independent as Ottoman forces leave the country 1878 - De jure independence is formally declared Built during Ottoman times when still not solely independent. The ottoman's weren't so lenient towards other nations. Those are serbian achievements under ottoman rule, impressive never the less, they were not done by an independent serbia.
Serbia does not equal Yugoslavia.
pointless
you can wait all you want, i never claimed anything, i said you were BSing. and regarding military efficiency/experience, the serbian military is certainly not the first thing that comes to mind
the fact that you were givin independence by foreign powers aided your progress, but you were not the first fully industrialized balkan nation.
and if by some chance you were, good for you, but look were you are now.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 2:22:37 GMT -5
You would be surprised how much Russia aided serbia. So much so that it was in their best interest. They were in the perfect position.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 2:20:21 GMT -5
I fail to see any greatness in the so called fight between Serbia and NATO. I actually think its utter stupidity on the part of the Serbian leaders to even allow it to go that far. I dont think any leader in Greece Bulgaria or Romania would let the situation go that far. I dont think anyone could win against nato, its like a law. so any "struggle" is useless and as we saw just led to innocent civil victims, big material losses and it stopped serbia on her road to eu. because the serbian leaders were too nationalistic, they made serbia from one of the biggest and richest countries on the bolkans in the 80ties into what it is today. so excuse me if i fail to see any greatness in the policies the serbian rulers followed. Thanks to them almost half of the Serbs today live outside serbian borders. Ioan, thank you for being rational and moderate. However despite the wars, and despite that no billions of EU money were poured in Serbia, Serbia today is in better position than Romania/Bulgaria as far as basic living level is concerned. Prices are about the same, while the salaries/pensions slightly higher. Also, regarding infrastructure (if we exclude the new roads of Greece made in the last 5 years), Serbia was much better than Greece as well in that regard. So, having fought NATO, without surrender or explicit defeat, having gone through the 92-95 wars with sunctions/emgargo/refugees, having gone through the '99 destruction by NATO and still be in a position comparable to Greece (and in many cases better) is an accomplishment of*great nation. And Ioan, if we close our eyes to HISTORY as it happened before our eyes 10 years ago, then i dont dare to think how we (people in general) tend to rape and distort history when it refers to older events. If bulgarians now undermine/underestimate what Serbia did, go ALONE, i repeat ALONE against the world, then how do you expect Serbs to acknowledge great moments of Bulgarian history? Bulgarian accomplishments? In this manner mutual distrust is cultured in such a way that we balkanians will always be tools to the hands of the bigger nations, trying to pull the eye of our neighbor at any chance. you have one very distorted view of the historic and present situation, needless to say, it explains your fallacies.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 14, 2009 2:17:05 GMT -5
I did not say anything like this, and the conversation had nothing to do with your false summation. You are putting words into my mouth. Your argument has been proven flawed and are now trying to mock me because you can't understand.
BS. stop lying
you are stating a fact that is not true and are using BIASED sources, the onus is on you to prove your statement from unbiased external peer reviewed journals.
either way, a quick search resulted in nothing. As far as Engines an tractors go, serbs invented neither, nor perfected them
this conversation is regarding a false statement you made, i don't care for your conversation with him.
You may believe what you want as long as it does no harm to anyone, however no matter how much you believe in it, how much you wish it, how much you pray to your god...
it does not make what you believe in true
live a lie.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 18:14:15 GMT -5
asen, you should post more often.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 18:12:00 GMT -5
if you keep thinking in that manner and go far back enough, then there are no real indigenous peoples in Europe.
modern day Romania is based of the 15th-16th century, i don't know what you're blabbing about ani. Your relation to Dacians ends with the automobile.
But we are talking about a relatively modern-time occupation and genocide.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 15:03:58 GMT -5
Romania, Greece, I'ld include Bulgaria, and if you count turkey as being part of Europe, that makes 4.
Possibly Croatia too if you include it as being Balkan, but i'ld have to research it more and analyze their situation.
Edit: and i'm assuming that none of these countries would be aided by Russia like serbia was.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 14:14:46 GMT -5
I never said anything about numbers. you're opinion is invalid
Once again, 3-4 countries.
once again, 3-4 countries could out last Serbia, it doesn't just come down to military.
vague and irrelevant
everysingle country would eventually die by itself, just a matter of time, and if you say serbia did it, you're lieing to yourself. it neither did 'it' nor was it completely cut-off
i doubt it was serbia, and either way, has no relevance, and proves nothing
it is interesting to see how assured you are that you have 'put me in my place' with such irrelevant and useless comments that you have decided to end the argument by 'telling me off' in some manner, which in itself shows your age and maturity, thank you for proving my point that your points are flawed
it does no such thing, you are making an assumption based off of delusions.
show my at least 3 scholarly sources or hard evidence that proves your point. Until then, it is mere BS you are spewing.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 4:39:27 GMT -5
the issue is even more complicated because 1/3 of the Bulgarian population between 1396 and 1912 was murdered, raped, pillaged, and tortured = Genocide. And those who survived didn't get much compensation for their losses. not to mention the countless that were abducted. partamian.net/how-about-a-nice-cup-of-shut-the-fuck-up.jpg
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 13, 2009 4:24:10 GMT -5
i'm not gonna bother analyzing and dismantling your posts and point, because you yourself voided any of your credibility in this discussion.
btw, if you're talking military wise, there are at least 3 nations in the Balkans that are stronger than Serbia, 4 if you count turkey as being part of the Balkans
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 12, 2009 15:36:13 GMT -5
Heyaa. So half your family are Bulgarians from Macedonia? Yes there is a Bulgarian minority in Macedonia. They are good people. I know a few myself. And yes i know old Macedonians (either in my family or outside the family) and they consider themselves Macedonians. there is no such thing as a Bulgarian minority in Macedonia... the church in Ohrid will vouch that.
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Post by Kubrat on Apr 12, 2009 4:01:23 GMT -5
BigM,
I am a Bulgarian who's half Macedonian. and none of my macedonian origins would ever dare claim a macedonian ethnicity. I am, they are, they were, Bulgarians from the region of Macedonia. if you really want to know more, i'll show you links. My family name is old, and well known in Dojran, it is the 'standard' plz, don't follow the dinner table history lessons or the ones at school. but ask some one born before 1945 about what they remember.
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Hello!
Apr 11, 2009 14:21:34 GMT -5
Post by Kubrat on Apr 11, 2009 14:21:34 GMT -5
now....who is that in your signature wrapped with the flag ...you,sister,wife ? either way I did gagoogidy that girl. I gashmoygadied her gaflavity with my googus.
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