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Post by Japodian on Oct 29, 2007 6:11:28 GMT -5
I think Kurds had enough from both PKK and Turkish government, because always when something happens on relation Turkey - PKK it is always their backs who suffer. As for other things you wrote, I will take it in consideration, which doesn't mean I will believe you instantly. I am familiar with what state and organization propaganda means. Both Turkey and PKK have a long history of it.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 27, 2007 22:57:43 GMT -5
O you need to say something, to attack somebody, without thinking what is the meaning of the words he said. What that man really wanted to say. It is to hard to see what lies behind simple sentences. If you are unable to dissolve that I by using word "STUPID" wasn't applying on you, but on the way of solving the problem, then I can not help you. If you do not understand I used mark for sending an message about what I talked about, not about you. You know not all world revolves around you. Nowhere is mentioned something about common solution, but about the way it is solved.
My point was that both Serbian and Turkish governments in history did serious mistakes by directly applying military attack on the groups fighting for their rights. Be it small or big, it doesn't matter. You did not understand what I am talking about, what I can forgive you, but calling me a brainfart and moron I can't without your apology. It also was a stupid action and you earned disrespect among people who might be your friend, same as Turkey and Serbia did by not listening what is really happening.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 27, 2007 11:26:48 GMT -5
There is no relation between Southeastern Turkey/Kurdistan and Kosovo/Kosova problem except one. The only correlation is in how the problems are solved - STUPID!
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Post by Japodian on Oct 20, 2007 10:52:15 GMT -5
This is great, looks like space tech! I am really stunned, it just shows how METU is a great place to study! The place of free ideas and free thought!
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Post by Japodian on Nov 15, 2007 16:28:17 GMT -5
It is not connected always directly with GDP, often it is, but also some other economic factors are to be considered... In the end here is the link to the results of research: Wealth in Central and Eastern Europe
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Post by Japodian on Nov 15, 2007 13:41:29 GMT -5
Not true, Romania is 32nd with 3036 euros, Turkey is 31st with 3182 euros, Serbia is 30th with 3227 euros while Croatia is 29th (we fell for two places) with 4565 euros. Most powerful in the region is Greece on 18th place with 12203 euros. There is still a lot of work to do here, do not lie to yourselves.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 27, 2007 11:02:15 GMT -5
Similar to how in Montenegrin, beautiful is "Lijep" but then the most most beautiful is "Najljepse" notice the change in the Lijep->Ljep Evropa->Euro That's not even close. What are you talking about would be to totally different things and having word pairing "Euro"-"Evropa" will never be linguistically justified even in the frame of Montenegrin standard. In comparative process in central south Slavic languages (Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro) it is almost obligatory to shorten the long "yat" (long "e" in Serbian, "ije" in Croatian) from the basic form to short "yat" (short "e" in Serbian, "je" in Croatian) in comparative and superlative. Same goes for Montenegrin standard. Correlation between "Euro" and "Evropa" can not be justified with it since there is no connection. If you say "Evropa" than you say "Evro", if you say "Europa" than you say "Euro". I do not say that they cannot put in their administration "Euro" besides "Evropa", I just say that it can not be linguistically justified as you put it!
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Post by Japodian on Oct 25, 2007 14:08:34 GMT -5
I really ask myself what would EU do if Russia entered it and started to write "Evro" in Cyrillic! Those western linguistic administration bullies! I am with Bulgaria, it should be "Evropa", "Evro", it may look small now, but it is the fight for language preservation. russia will not join the EU. most Russians view Russia as being to great a state to enter the EU. Even if russia would join it would cause some serious problems for the EU. If you did not notice the question was hypothetical. I was speaking what would EU do if some bigger and internationally stronger orthodox land should enter EU, doesn't need to be Russia, it could for example be Ukraine. Then I presume EU would have totally different stance to it. Russia actually doesn't need EU, while EU, well she needs Russia and her oil and gas reserves. I was just stating a hypothetical question. As for Montenegrin language, well better not to say anything. If they plan to make their language as boring as their parlamentary session then they are in big trouble.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 25, 2007 7:11:59 GMT -5
I really ask myself what would EU do if Russia entered it and started to write "Evro" in Cyrillic! Those western linguistic administration bullies! I am with Bulgaria, it should be "Evropa", "Evro", it may look small now, but it is the fight for language preservation.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 29, 2007 6:23:29 GMT -5
I don't know how to learn Bulgarian over the Internet, but I know how we Serbs and Croats understand them. We just go there and forget about the cases from our standard language. If you are from Pirot or Nis you don't even need to do that, you lost cases already.
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Post by Japodian on Nov 19, 2007 8:18:31 GMT -5
Svaka čast! Ne samo das je staro nego je i presmešno! "Milica je uvek tužna i sama! Je li možda razlog u tome što ne koristi Kalodont pastu za zube!" ;D
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Post by Japodian on Nov 23, 2007 14:27:44 GMT -5
Interesting thing is that the begining of Illyrian ancestry thesis firstly emerged among South Slavs, i.e. Serbs and Croats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_movementAs for Pelasgians, I believe that they weren't Indo-Europeans but Proto-Europeans, and by this closer to nowadays Georgians, Basques, Berbers and so... I do not claim that there cannot be traits of Pelasgian culture in both Albania and Greece, but that the claim of direct descending hasn't got any sense. Also Pelasgian society and religion was more matriarchal, which can be even now found on Lesvos and Lemnos, while both Greek and Illyrian pantheon was patriarchal.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 24, 2007 21:35:49 GMT -5
"Μισιρλού" - Greek music about Muslim Egyptian woman.
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Post by Japodian on Nov 18, 2007 18:21:46 GMT -5
No matter I believe that any nation has the right top call their language as they want, the argument with "naski" [actually meaning "ours"] doesn't mean anything special. All other nations of central South Slavic group [Croats, Bosnians, Serbs] referred to their language as "naski".
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Post by Japodian on Oct 27, 2007 11:16:06 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem is in what you consider to be a language and what you consider to be a dialect. Just look at your western south Slavic neighbors. We practically speak the same thing, we can easily understand one another, but we have four languages now (Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian and Montenegrin). I think that every nation is to proud to accept they speak in almost the same way as their neighbors and can not accept to call their language with the name of their neighbors. German set it quite well, it is spoken in Switzerland, Germany, Luxembourg and Austria, but they lived in one state for almost 1200 years. We on the other hand lived in one state for 80 years and almost eradicated each other. What can I say, but Balkanians!
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Post by Japodian on Nov 23, 2007 14:00:55 GMT -5
E majstore svaka ti čast, slike su ti super!
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Post by Japodian on Oct 27, 2007 7:07:56 GMT -5
Srecan rodjendan i puno zdravlja Novi Pazar!
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Post by Japodian on Oct 25, 2007 14:44:14 GMT -5
I think you are a "little" bit delusional wbb! But it is OK for the sake of some topics, not this one!
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Post by Japodian on Oct 25, 2007 6:59:29 GMT -5
It is the first time I see somebody with identity crisis from Hungary. Just to make it clear Hungarian language is Ugric with both Khanty and Ostyak and is part of Uralic family. I know how Hungarian and how Persian language sounds and there is little to no linguistic correlation. Genetically Hungarians are different story and are more closer to Slavs. As for Uralic family there is a map of it here. Pure geography says you are talking something away from reality. The intermixing with steppe based Iranian people is quite possible, but pure descending from them is quite improbable. As for Serbs they are surely close to Sarmatians and Alans since there is a Sarmatian tribe called Serboi which lived on there shores of Caspian Sea in 1st century and our Slavic language shows many similarities with Iranian group. But start of the nation is one thing while genetics is another for both Serbs and Hungarians. But this is offtopic so I will not talk about it to much here. If you want to talk about it open a topic about it or better read more books about it. This reminds me a lot on that Gothic theory about Bosnians. Be proud of what you are, do not fabricate your history. I am proud of being a south Slav and what I am, as a matter a fact my descendants may come from Zanzibar but I do not care. Another thing is that Vojvodina was not taken by Americans and given to Serbia. Vojvodina united with Serbia by a popular proclamation of all nations living there. If you want to complain, complain about the legality about it, do not invent stories about Americans. As for Iran, man you are delusional, sorry to say that but it is true! Iran has much more issues to solve in his neighboring than to care about Hungary or Serbia or Kosovo.
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Post by Japodian on Oct 24, 2007 20:53:54 GMT -5
What's all with that Iran story. Iran is some 5000 kilometers from Serbia! It is like talking about China and Paraguay! As I know Iran doesn't like anybody on the side of USA, so they backup anybody against USA, simple as that. So if Kosovo Albanians want Iranian backup they need to get rid from American backup, which I think will never happen. To much money came to some Americans and Albanians to do so. I can't believe that even now some people go on the national story talk. It is all about money and Serbs didn't pay enough to American senators [colloquially knows as "serators" ] while Albanians did! I as a Serb think Serbia should get rid from anything slowing her down, but sometimes it is not the question of "what?" but "how?".
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