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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 23:46:46 GMT -5
yes they do from long distance and forums only they use to have many serbian -greek parties here in Chicago ...I knew greeks and serbs that went ....that didnt last to long ....and boy could I tell you stories from both sides its more like fake smoke than anything else I remember during the yugo wars and serbs were demonstrating here and the Churches got together and more than 1/2 the crowd were greeks with pro serbian posters and banners around their necks like cowbells ....the greeks that I knew personally felt very awkward being there and also afterward had infighting/argument with the Churches that the greek Church never volunteer them again the greeks felt idiotic holding posters of peoples faces they didn't know and holding signs that read "kosova is Serbia" in serbian and english many greeks left before it even started .... after many serbian masacres of civilians all over Yugoslavia they were ashamed that their Church even volunteered them that saying "Serbia Hellada Orthodoxia " within the greek church is not heard any more or most likely never again so again ...friendship online only ....not real life unless your married to it like Pyrros and Emperor here greeks consider slavic languages as dirty barbarian tongue that needs to be eradicated from their borders....do they know the serbs are slavs??? i wonder what language these greeks and serbs use to speak to each other??
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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 23:40:15 GMT -5
www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-wineries-close-despite-good-intentionsMacedonia's Wine Trade Loses its Sparkle
A quarter of Macedonia’s wineries face closure this year - ironically after government advertisements used the example of wineries to encourage entrepreneurship.see what I am talking about ....the slav goverment has/is/will spend millions and millions of Euros for fake history making instead of subsidizing and advertising for agriculture farmers product to be exported ......WAKE UP ALL OF MACEDONIA! they dont push export to Italy and other countries for product of Macedonia they seek sculptors and bronze makers so to throw money at them ....and also most likely skim some money off the deals 4sure you cannot eat the monuments ...all that comes out of it is confusion for yourselves and laughter from your neighbors at you and you expect Albanians and other groups within Macedonia to pay for your fakeness with extra taxations Macedonia can do both. We are being led and governed much better now then under the SDSM commies...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 23:37:27 GMT -5
So Alexander The Great was Greek then. he was MACEDONIAN .....no such word of Greek existed back then otherwise no comment e taka te bidva momche bravos...imalo vistinski Makedonski Albanci
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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 17:44:37 GMT -5
Chento , I find it interesting that you talk about 'we' when saying that your people suffered 500 years of (Albanian?) oppression under Ottoman rule. Then you reference a picture of a *Bulgarian* woman. Are you implying that you consider Bulgarians your people? Do you also feel Bulgarian as well as Macedonian? Just curious. by 'we' i mean Christians of the Ottoman empire...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 17:42:56 GMT -5
^What's up with the black guy in the first picture? Nice try Alex. You should worry about possible, future protests in Tetova. Albanians were a major contrinutor to the bazhi bouzuk ranks. The black guy is from other parts of the Ottoman empire. Christians is in the empire were terrorised by these animals for hundreds of years, and now you guys want to bitch about serb oppression. give me a break.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 15, 2011 0:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 21:46:55 GMT -5
maybe. if you drop the muslim thing, we could be friends
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 21:43:17 GMT -5
rex, when macedonia became independent citizenship was handed out to all inhabitants, including about 100,000 albanians from kosovo and albania - who were recent arrivals. this swelled the number of shiptars in macedonia over night. this was a deal done with sdsm and the shiptar pdp. in addition to this, we all saw the arrival of hundreds of thousands of shiptars in macedonia in 1999... Brazda refugee camp, Macedonia so we have documents and we have pictures and footage...not enough for you??
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 21:16:37 GMT -5
"There were also some Sclavonians" like I said ...yes ...Sclavonian 7% .....you understand now and Sclavonians not Macedonians ....uh I told you earlier to stop or you will make a bigger fool of yourself ....too late ajde ostajgo The Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts accepts that as a whole the modern Macedonian genotype developed as a result of the absorption by the advancing Slavs of the local peoples living in the region of Macedonia prior to their coming. This position is based on the findings of some late 19th – early 20th centuries ethnographers such as Vasil Kanchov,[62] Gustav Weigand,[63] and the anthropologist Carleton S. Coon, which stated that the Slavs in 6th century actively assimilated other tribal peoples by absorbing part of the indigenous populations of the region of Macedonia
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 21:14:26 GMT -5
Don't be stupid rex, so who inhabited the states of Krali Marko, Vuk Brankovic and Prince Lazar?? Slavs or shiptars?? Kastrioti's mother was of these people.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 21:08:52 GMT -5
I fight for Albanians from Macedonia to return home to Kosovo and Albania. The sooner the better....
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 20:01:22 GMT -5
we can discuss Mother Teresa if you like, but let's stick to warriors for the moment. "when he existed 93% of mac slavs were deep in Bulgaria and agean area's " Approximate borders of central balkans 1373-1395 George Kastrioti - born 6 May 1405 - ten years after the above map... George Castriot, surnamed Scanderbeg, king of Albania By Clement Clarke Moore On page 168 he refers to the following composition of Kastriot's army: The Albanians were almost all of them archers; the rest, being Italians and Germans (Almaines), served with arquebuses and cross-bows. There were also some Sclavonians, more skilled in the use of the sword than of the bow; who, upon news of the levy of soldiers, being allured by the hope of plunder, came to serve with the Albanians as volunteers, and without any pay. In those days, people came constantly into Epire from the nations around, to serve under Scanderbeg, who was the only captain perpetually under arms and engaged in war with the Turks.On page 84 he speaks of a battle of Kastriot and his Albanian troops against the Venetians who had on their right wing a commander and a chosen guard of Sclavonians. On page 140 he makes mention of a certain "Moses" who carries a Sclavonian sword by his side and is a Dibrian.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 19:18:45 GMT -5
"we albanians appreciate you slavs putting monuments of our ancestors" But you keep doing the same with our ancestors.... "His mother was princess Vojsava Tripalda, originally from the Polog valley, north-western part of present-day Republic of Macedonia. Skanderbeg's parents had nine children, of whom he was the youngest son, his older brothers were Stanisha, Reposh and Kostandin, and his sisters were Mara, Jelena, Angjelina, Vlajka and Mamica"Anamali, Skënder (2002) (in Albanian), Historia e popullit shqiptar në katër vëllime, I, Botimet Toena Skanderbeg Monument in Skopje Skanderbeg monument Tirana
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 18:24:24 GMT -5
The Chuvash and Volgar Bulgars also hold their Bolgar background in high esteem. Why not give them citizenship aswell?
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 17:59:38 GMT -5
Me? Is that the best you can come up with? Pfffff, you useless brainwashed fyromian. well, i wasn't going to mention your tartar background, but hey why not? go back into your yurt now and drink some mashteintsa...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 17:50:31 GMT -5
Serbs have done quite remarkable things in recent days. They have claimed the Shopska salad as Serbian, Dracula as Serbian and God knows what else as Serbian. You, Chento, continue to be a Serbian bitch if that suits you. Fvcking pathetic. ha ha ha very funny...you shiptar bitch
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 17:46:02 GMT -5
we are honouring the ancient founders of macedonia. as modern macedonians, we should celebrate this. i'm sure the reasoning behind the building of statues to bulgar khans is the same in bulgaria... Khan Asparukh - Dobrich, Bulgaria Khan Krum - Plovdiv
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 17:37:14 GMT -5
from a political perspective the greko-serb alliance is alive and well. however from a real grass-roots level, there is no relationship. macedonians and serbs for example have a real friendship from a grass-roots level. we speak a similar language and have very similar cultures. we therefore understand each other. the greeks on the other hand are westerners, who speak a non-slavic language. they are part of the 'others'. greeks also need to remember that serbs recognise macedonia and the macedonian people and macedonian language....
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Post by Sokol on Dec 14, 2011 17:09:32 GMT -5
identity is very important, especially when your neighbours are challenging your existence...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 13, 2011 22:02:32 GMT -5
Where did it all go wrong? www.teslasociety.com/500.htmYou guys have yourselves to blame. Had you stuck with the US, then Yugoslavia would still be yours, not just Kosovo. You got it wrong kid. The United States turned they're back on us. Yugoslavia was a threat the Western powers, it should be obvious to you why it needed to disintergrate. YU was always a buffer state and it suited the East and West. Once the Berlin Wall fell, then the buffer was no longer needed. However if Serbs were pro-west, instead of being anti-west then all of YU would have entered EU and NATO. Instead, Serb policy allowed the Croats, Slovenes, Albanians and Macedonians to jump on the US bandwagon, and you have seen the results. You are still doing the same thing and you keep losing. I think it's way too late now to do anything about it anyway. Kosovo will remain in limbo forever, and Serbia will not be in the EU or NATO ever. Serbia chose this path and it's now too late to reverse it.
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