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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 18:58:26 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 18:17:09 GMT -5
They have no reason to hate Slavs and i've never came across a Greek person who hates Slavs. They hate Turks because of the Janissaries and they hate Albanians because they like Serbians I should clarify - Macedonian Slavs
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 18:11:14 GMT -5
greeks have been doing it for longer and are very experienced LMAO! Are you kidding? Greeks or Bulgarians for that matter didn't create Israel in the same way/form that Albanians did EVERYBODY kNOWS Albanians created Israel them America and Britain DJemal Pasha was a Zog even more so than Kemal Ata You've lost me missy. Albanians created Israel?? WTF? The west created Greece, that is a fact, not a conspiracy theory.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 18:08:36 GMT -5
Greece is one of the most anti-Slavic nations in the world. ok, but we just followed the orders/propaganda of thy great Gods and mighty masters the English. We are so inferior to them, that we must do exactly as we are told. If they order us to be anti-slav, we will do it right away. Did it ever pass your mind that: a) the greece/albania/makedonia UK projects serve this purpose and smth more? b) the great makedonia serves the same purpose from the opposite side? just think about, that when you act like mad about Alex, you are repeating Greece's mistakes. And you become anti-greek, in the same sense that Greeks became anti-slav. Pyrros you speak of govt actions. I can agree with you on this. However I speak of the people and their hatred of us. The greek people hate Slavs, aswell as Turks and Albanians.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 0:29:52 GMT -5
and how long did this last karta? 1941-1945? this does not compare to 100 years of concerted and deliberate policy of the greek state of ethnic genocide of the slavic population of greece, which continues to this day in a less severe form. we are still here though, and the name issue only keeps the whole issue of the ethnic macedonian minority in greece alive...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 0:02:09 GMT -5
Some more anti-Slavic measures by the Greek state and people;
INSTRUCTIONS FOR ASSIMILATION
Always regarding the more effective denationalization a number of well-considered measures have been undertaken. The consecution of these measures could be seen on the confidential document of the Greek Ministry of the Interior that we submit in the part concerning the measures which are recommended:
Republic of Greece
Ministry of public peace
National security service
Direction ,,B"
Department II
Post Address: Katehaki and Gudi
Minutes N 650217-50428
After making in 6 chapters a full analysis of the situation in Greek Macedonia the Ministry makes the following recommendations:
VII - RECOMMENDATIONS
The activity for Free Macedonia could be successfully opposed through elimination of the language in this region. This proves that in Kostour where the use of the local language is fully eliminated this activity is entirely dead. It is necessary for the following to be done: 1. A special state representative with relevant skills to work only on this matter. He will be independent from the Intelligence Service and will cooperate with inspectors, schools, the military, churches, etc. 2. In the State Departments only persons who do not know the local language to be appointed. The same is also valid for the schools. 3. Special workshops to be organized for all state officials and priests who work in this delicate region - Macedonia. 4. A permanent sojourn of state and other officials to be provided securing them with allowances, exemption from taxes, etc. 5. A branch of the cultural organization ,,Aristotelis" to be built in Lerin and to be financially supported for publishing books, papers, journals which to strengthen the national feeling. 6. Special obstacles to be created for those who would like to go to school to Skopje like no recognition of diplomas, no deferment of call up etc. 7. In every village, to be found persons who for payment of wage will struggle against usage of'the local dialect. These should be people having large connections and influence over the local population. 8. The persons who are members of the military forces, intelligence service, state authorities and organizations, born in this region (Lerin) to be moved to other regions of the country. 9. The military management to stimulate the acquaintances and marriages of officers from this region and other regions of Greece with Women from local villages where the local dialect is spoken.
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Republic of Greece Security Service in Salonica General-major Dimitrius Kapelaris Information Department Colonel Constantinos Bugatos For Departments:
1. "A", "C" and "D" 2. All security departments in Salonica
08.03.1982 Salonica
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 23:53:33 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 22:27:36 GMT -5
Chento I do not want to annoy you !!! Greek Macedonia was threaten by Bulgarian Komitadji Macedonia was not Greek, until your govt made it majority greek after 1913. Most of Macedonia was Slavic before then, despite the church affiliations of its people. BTW, that calender is from VMRO-BND ie., the Sofia based pro-Bulgarian party. They are also threat to R.Macedonia today.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 22:25:06 GMT -5
Some more anti-Slavic measures undertaken in Greece Article from the Greek newspaper "Sfaira" dated September 1st 1959. The article describes how a language oath was taken by the inhabitants of the village of Atrapos(Karpeshina) in the Florina(Lerin) region of Aegean Macedonia. The oath: Quote: I do promise before God, the people, and the official state authorities, that from this day on I shall cease to speak the Slav dialect which gives misunderstandings to the enemies of our country - the Bulgarians - and that I will speak always and everywhere the official language of our fatherland – the Greek language, in which the Holy Gospel is written.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:35:58 GMT -5
Other famous Macedonian patriots from Aegean Macedonia Goce Delcev Apostol Petkov Krste Misirkov Dimitar Vlahov - Premier of SR Macedonia
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:11:42 GMT -5
Nikola Gruevski's grandfather was from Aegean Macedonia, and so Gruevski is part Aegean Macedonian. Many great Macedonian patriots have come from Aegean Macedonia, and Nikola is just one of them.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:07:58 GMT -5
But they have 30 percent Slavic dna so they're basically discriminating against 30 percent of themselves perhaps. didn't hitler have jewish blood??
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:05:57 GMT -5
thanks for proving my point karta
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:56:17 GMT -5
Not really, i'd say Albs are worse. ^ greeks have been doing it for longer and are very experienced
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
How could they hate Slavic people if they have a E3b dna? they don't speak a slavic language...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:37:21 GMT -5
Greece is one of the most anti-Slavic nations in the world. It has ethnically cleansed a large part of its Slavic population over the last century, and then pretends to be pro-Slav (Serbia, Russia, Bulgaria etc...) Ethnic Macedonian refugee children from Gorno Brodi, Serres driven from their homes by the Greeks 1913 Children Refugees fleeing across the border, 1940s/50s
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:34:49 GMT -5
What about Slavic Macedonians in Greece? Greeks already have Slavic dna what you mean is former Yugoslavs and I don't know what the general public think I saw a Golden Dawn ( Avgis ) vid once where this guy from it got pissed at this woman promoting ''Macedonian'' languages Missy - your ideology leads to the following; Ethnic Macedonian refugee children from Gorno Brodi, Serres driven from their homes by the Greeks 1913 Children Refugees fleeing across the border, 1940s/50s
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Dec 6, 2011 21:22:40 GMT -5
" II. 1878 – 1908: Russian ambassador to the Sublime Porte, Count Nikolay Pavlovich Ignatieff, gets orders from the Russian Tsar to create the Bulgarian Exarchy, and raise the Bulgarian population in Macedonia. All this to force Turkey to cede the Southern Balkans to Bulgaria. The Treaty of San Stefano tried to achieve this under the false pretence that the majority of the population in Macedonia was Bulgarian and not Greek. Europe did not allow this to happen. The Bulgarian and Greek Struggle for Macedonia begins and ends with the complete retreat of Bulgaria from Greek soil. In 1912, Macedonia is freed from Turkey and declares unity with Greece." Novi did make mention of this numerous times, but stupid Bu Lgari are too blinded by "Golemo Bu Lgarskata". You see Chento, as both me and Pyrro have truthfully stated here, it was Russia's intent to create a large and unhistorically Bulgaria ,incorrect nation, from the expense of both Greece and Serbia, territorally. A big Bulgaria was not really going to be an indpendant nation, she was going to be a protectorate like a French North Africa for instance, Russia aims were to control the mediterrean and to use Bu Lgarska as a base to destroy Turkiye from existence, forever. As time went on, the Russians got p.issed with the Bu Lgari and the west were paranoid of this plan by Russia. PS I endeavour to be as accurate as l can. I agree Novi. But do you agree that geographic Macedonia - most of it, should have been in Slavic hands? Please notice the thick black line, which according to the legend corresponds to the ETHNIC BORDER OF THE MACEDONIANS. Source: The map was published in the Yugoslav newspaper Borba, August 26th 1946.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 6, 2011 19:59:27 GMT -5
I'm certain that if NATO came to Vardar and proposed to house some missile defense systems, do you think they would back away for Russia, NO, not in my opinion, they would be kissing their backsides for it, l know the mentallity of the Vardarian people. Agreed, Macedonia would welcome US Army installations on its territory, much like the Greeks...
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