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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 15:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:41:16 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:35:41 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 4, 2008 16:55:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:52:22 GMT -5
It`s me Shmajser, i am just here to say hello and promote my web-site, i will not be posting here, only in my corner, that Aadmin made especially for me.(lucky me) Everything i have to say is on my web-site, i will not be arguing with some imature teenagers on this forum, so relax Aadmin i am not here to cause trouble, besides this forum is not big enough for the both of us.LOL
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:45:32 GMT -5
A quote from Noel Malcolm`s book Bosnia: a short history p.10
As for the question of whether the inhabitants of Bosnia were really Croat or really Serb in 1180, it cannot be answered, for two reasons: first, because we lack evidence, and secondly, because the question lacks meaning. We can say that the majority of the Bosnian territory (in 1180) was probably occupied by Croats - or at least, by Slavs under Croat rule - in the seventh century; but that is a tribal label which has little or no meaning five centuries later. The Bosnians were generally closer to the Croats in their religious and political history; but to apply the modern notion of Croat identity (something constructed in recent centuries out of religion, history, and language) to anyone in this period would be an anachronism. All that one can sensibly say about the ethnic identity of the Bosnians is this: they were the Slavs who lived in Bosnia.
Lovrenovic argues that the term ‘Bosnian Croat’ dates only from the 19th century, and thus belongs among the phenomena of the modern era in Bosnia, above all the destruction of the Ottoman Empire and the great changes that it wrought in the region. While agreeing with Bosnian historian Srecko Džaja’s thesis that Bosnia’s Catholics had for centuries felt a kinship to the Catholics of Western Europe, he believes that ‘Croatization’ is a modern phenomenon, inseparable from the 19th-century ideology of bringing all Croats into one state, from political events following Austria’s annexation of Bosnia, and from the concept of ‘Catholic Croatian national sentiment’ introduced by the church hierarchy. “Before the modern political use of “Croat” as the name of a nation near the end of the 19th century,’ Lovrenovic writes, ‘… Bosnian Catholics with great pride considered Bosnia alone as their country and homeland…’ Nearly 150 years of forgetting their Bosnian [pre-Catholic] roots produced the ‘self-ignorance’ of today’s Bosnian Croats…
Yes, may that BOSNIAK catholic queen rest in peace, Croats did not exist in Bosnia 150 years ago.
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:28:39 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:47:03 GMT -5
O.k, insult all you want, it will not change the fact that you originate from Turkey.
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by Shmajser on Apr 1, 2008 4:20:48 GMT -5
www.bogbosnaibosnjastvo.org/index.htmCheck out my site, i think you can all guess who i am from the old forum, don`t worry i will not post here, i am only here to promote my site. There is no reason for me to stay here, i will eventually get banned anyway. so goodbye.
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