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Post by manijak on Dec 21, 2008 11:59:22 GMT -5
It's so annoying to see Australians and Canadians in BIH and I haven't been back since we left.
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Post by manijak on Dec 20, 2008 9:35:38 GMT -5
boy you are dating yourself.
Susic was way too early for me too. I was only 6yrs old in the 1990WC (final time Yugoslavia played) But you see the videos and everything that was said of them, plus i do remember watching at 6yrs old, but not that well of course.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 21:58:37 GMT -5
i dont think you look like that kapetan...just that pic and the parralel he is trying to draw
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 21:47:25 GMT -5
lmao skoric u are a funny dude i was imaging that pic again..then seeing it again made me laugh out loud
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 21:07:09 GMT -5
edo is cool but when i listen to halid hocu da sve slomim...in a good way
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 20:41:53 GMT -5
pa ljudi nemoze bolje nego ovo!!
HALID!!!
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 18:37:30 GMT -5
yeah but the guy who was installing the electrical wiring when the mosque was built was serb. Cetniks.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 18:22:12 GMT -5
damn, there is very few older soccer videos. I know in one of the threads some of you guys said you don't who he is lmao I found one clip on youtube, damn look at that third goal. Hat-trick against Argentina here.
The guy was known to have a strong lower body that he would bounce of players like in the 3rd goal.
brings back some memories of watching some games as a child..boy were we good.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 16:49:34 GMT -5
I agree.
The thing is, I've spoken about nationalism and extremism before, and I would say with quiet a lot of understanding and intelligence on the issue. But I never really considered that I might be idealizing our people.
Like, I don't think I'm a nationalist, but I think there is a part in me that thinks most of us do know how to have fun better, are more social, tend to have better humor, are more upfront and honest, qualities I might think are lacking in other societies. I don't know if other people feel differently about such subjects.
I mean people do say we are highly passionate people, and I don't think many people would disagree with that. But we always seem to agree on the negatives. Sure it means it gets us into a lot of trouble sometimes but its also a good thing.
I don't know if that idea is totally perception based or if there is some reality there.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 12:45:34 GMT -5
I'm remembering a writing by fazlinho about not 'idealizing' our country or the people, this was a week back or so, and I've been thinking that its actually a real strong point by Fazla.
I've never thought much about it before but there is that saying about "putting the pussy up on the pedestal". And it kind of makes me think, there is a lot bad about our people. I mean, its like anywhere else, there is the good and the bad, but there is definetley no reason to make it seem that Bosniaks, Croats, or Serbs are these special people when we are really not.
It doesn't mean we can't be proud about all the things that make us unique, especially I think the positives like our humour and stuff, but bottom line is, do we idealize our people too much?
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 12:23:28 GMT -5
Good post arsenije.
The way I see it, you live where your family has lived for generations, you live where you love the environment, where you feel "right", and if you want to call yourself a Serb, Croat, Bosniak or a Mother-f**kin-bith-ass-f*ggot-slurpin-homo, it makes no difference.
Nobody decides what we label ourself. Some of you will look back ten years from now and you'll be calling yourself Canadian or American or maybe Italian. Some of you that are lucky will go back and will be lucky enough to be able to have this discussion (or maybe unlucky?)
Bottom line is, ethnicity, and nationality, is what you feel you are. It has nothing to do with borders, it has nothing to do with what other people say you are, it has nothing to even do with history. It is what you feel you are based on what you connect with.
Frankly I don't think people in Sandzak want separation, I think they want autonomy, but they don't see anything wrong with being under a Beograd that respects their rights. Since 2000, they have gotten those rights. I don't think many of them see themselves as connected to BIH. But frankly I don't think Serbs in Beograd see themselves very similarly to the Serbs in RS. It's a different breed.
I don't know when, but there will be a time the Balkans will become civilized again. And people won't care what they are called, they will care how their life is.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 10:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 8:23:07 GMT -5
Guys take it here. Let's not ruin another thread. Just copy what the person said here and then reply.
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Post by manijak on Dec 19, 2008 8:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 15:28:22 GMT -5
i think a lot of guys had the hots for her back then..but personally i think she looks better now lol
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 12:49:57 GMT -5
Good post fazla.
It would be like Bosniaks arguing that Serbs in Bosnia are Bosnian and really love it because they live inside the borders. Right now that is not true at all. Though of course we hope it changes. You will where your family has lived, for generations, it doesn't mean you've forgotten your roots.
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 12:16:46 GMT -5
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO let me get this straight Al Quaeda.......A Serb from Bosnia is a Bosnian Serb? but a Muslim from Serbia is not a Serbian Muslim? Is she not born in Serbia? Is she not a Muslim? LOL you Balija make me laugh. The Jahovic's were originally from Montenegro and were either of Serb or Albanian heritage .....when the Montenegrins started fighting of the Turks, they started killing all the Muslim converts (be it Siptar or Serb) focring them to migrate north into areas that were safer and still under control of the Ottamons. SO Ner......and yes she is Mursads sister. Sinan Sakic considers himself a Serbian Muslim, as do other Sandzaklije like Adem Ljajic. Dont be hating! Remember when Turkoglu (Another Serb-Muslim born in Turkey) was playing for Sacrememento and after victories he, Divac and Stojakovic would all wave three fingers in the air! PS. Have you ever been to Sandzak? Ive been to both parts in Serbia and Montenegro.........the Muslms get along fine with the Serbs, and the majority of clans and families are mixed aswell. I never encountered a Muslim who (a) hated Montenegro or (b) hated Serbia. Although in my life ive met hundreds of Serbs and Croatians who HATE Bosna. Enough said. It is same like anywhere else. They are Serbian because they live in Serbia. I mean, her family grew up in Montenegro, that is what she knows..she is going to stay there just like her past generations have. That is her home. But that doesn't mean she doesn't have a special connection to the group she comes from. (she is a Bosniak) It really depends, its all about how patriotic you are, or how much you cherish your background over where you live. I think its normal that if you live in some country and get along with the people, you become part of it. I'm sure many of our perceptions of Serbs would be different if we lived in Sandzak.
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 12:12:55 GMT -5
yeah, hanka is a muslim name.
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 11:36:22 GMT -5
is it not dangerous to drink water with lead? lol
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Post by manijak on Dec 18, 2008 10:49:16 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a Bosnian thing, but my parents were saying to me how they have friends who have done this thing for their kids. Basically you wear certain clothes, drink or wash yourself with this water, where i guess some spiritual person "blesses" it or what not..and apparently it gets rid of your fear.
What is this all about? And does anybody really believe this?
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