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Post by kapetan on Sept 10, 2008 22:24:26 GMT -5
Stop trolling - Deucaon.
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Post by MiG on Sept 10, 2008 23:13:58 GMT -5
^ Dude, he wasn't trolling, he was being straight up with you. You can call him an idiot but he can't respond? Some freedom of speech you have here, shit.
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 10, 2008 23:26:13 GMT -5
If you wish to complain then make a thread, no going off topic.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 11, 2008 2:43:16 GMT -5
Hey radiate dude, i didnt CLAIM THAT YOU SAID SO (although you indirectly did) , (are you playing dump again?) i just ASKED FOR AN INTUITIVE EXPLANATION OF THE PHAENOMENON. p.s. your attempt (with the irrelevant pics, etc...) to make an impression was sad.... You inferred that I meant it which is a hasty generalization fallacy by you. The question you asked me was a red herring fallacy and had no bearing on the argument. The pics were to illustrate your habit of comitting logical fallacies in arguments. Unfortunately I find it tiring to even respond to the fallacies you seem talented at making. Hehe, you are just incompetent to justify your blind hatred against Serbs. No problem, you are not the first nor the last to have failed on this. Our forum has enuf of such ppl. P.S. Anyway i'll give you another chance (although i am sure you'll fail again). Here it goes: By your sayings all nations produce thugs, and Serbs have some thugs among their leaders in SR/BIH, etc.. throughout time and places. ok? Also you claimed that it is not only Serbs that have this characteristic but also Croats,Muslims, and since those nations have nothing satanic inherent in their souls, without loss of generality we could assume that the same percentage of thugs is in any leadership in any nation in earth/history. Alright? i think you agree. (PLEASE EXPLAIN, IF AT THIS POINT YOU DONT AGREE) Then, why are you coming here to repeat this over and over again, since its almost a universal tautology which applies to all nations of all times? Can you please COUNT THE EXACT NUMBER OF POSTS WHERE YOU WROTE THAT FOR: - Serbs - Croats - Bosnian muslims - Other nation along with the distribution across forums (Serbia/BIH/Croatia). If you fail to provide answer/data for the 2 above, you know and everybody knows what it means. Thank you for your time.
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Post by terroreign on Sept 11, 2008 3:15:27 GMT -5
^HAHAHA
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Post by karabin on Sept 11, 2008 6:17:22 GMT -5
If you fail to provide answer/data for the 2 above, you know and everybody knows what it means. We already know that he is a serb hater. It takes no rocket scientist to grasp that picture. All you need to do is go though his posts and the anti serb structure just jumps off the page. He also has a little albanian supporter, Terro
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Post by fazlinho on Sept 11, 2008 6:46:47 GMT -5
I'm no Alija idolater, but I guess pointing out this will make me one in your eyes. Oh well.
While to you people Pakistan may seem "just one of those barbaric Taliban-like countries" in the Muslim world, and in reality, it is a firm democratic, secular country that is still proud of it's being a stare inhabited by Muslims.
And that's especially what it was in those time, and why Alija mentioned it in the Islamic declaration, the very founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah clearly said that:
‘We are members of the brotherhood of Islam in which all are equal in rights, dignity and self-respect. Consequently, we have a special and very deep sense of unity. But make no mistake, Pakistan is no theocracy or anything like it. Islam demands from us toleration of other creeds and we welcome, in closest association with us, all those who, of whatever creed, are themselves willing and ready to play their part as true and loyal citizens of Pakistan’.
Pakistan is also the one and only Muslim country that has ever had a woman as a PM. The vast majority of "Christian" states never ever had such a thing. The fact that it is currently having internal clashes with Talibans is only recent history. If he truly wanted to speak about theocracies or Islamic rule he would have chosen Saudi Arabia as a model, or one of the gulf states. Everyone can have an opinion about Alija, but if we look at the reality,his speeches, his actions, he definitely never has been a theocracy promoter.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 11, 2008 6:53:11 GMT -5
If you fail to provide answer/data for the 2 above, you know and everybody knows what it means. We already know that he is a serb hater. It takes no rocket scientist to grasp that picture. All you need to do is go though his posts and the anti serb structure just jumps off the page. He also has a little albanian supporter, Terro he he, i just want to push him that hard so that he'll be too ashamed to write here again, although i dont think that shame will be his no1 problem.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 11, 2008 9:08:37 GMT -5
^ Dude, he wasn't trolling, he was being straight up with you. You can call him an idiot but he can't respond? Some freedom of speech you have here, s**t. Yup, it's like the 4th time too. That's ok though, taking away posts and the right to respond is just like taking away autonomies! Lmao No suprise there!
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Post by Richoooo on Sept 11, 2008 9:31:39 GMT -5
I'm no Alija idolater, but I guess pointing out this will make me one in your eyes. Oh well. While to you people Pakistan may seem "just one of those barbaric Taliban-like countries" in the Muslim world, and in reality, it is a firm democratic, secular country that is still proud of it's being a stare inhabited by Muslims. And that's especially what it was in those time, and why Alija mentioned it in the Islamic declaration, the very founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah clearly said that: ‘We are members of the brotherhood of Islam in which all are equal in rights, dignity and self-respect. Consequently, we have a special and very deep sense of unity. But make no mistake, Pakistan is no theocracy or anything like it. Islam demands from us toleration of other creeds and we welcome, in closest association with us, all those who, of whatever creed, are themselves willing and ready to play their part as true and loyal citizens of Pakistan’. Pakistan is also the one and only Muslim country that has ever had a woman as a PM. The vast majority of "Christian" states never ever had such a thing. The fact that it is currently having internal clashes with Talibans is only recent history. If he truly wanted to speak about theocracies or Islamic rule he would have chosen Saudi Arabia as a model, or one of the gulf states. Everyone can have an opinion about Alija, but if we look at the reality,his speeches, his actions, he definitely never has been a theocracy promoter. BOSNIAN PRESIDENT - AYATOLLAH KHOMEYNI'S RIGHT HAND MAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The basic facts of just what caused the conflict in ex-Yugoslavia are, still, not presented to the general public in the West... Alija Izetbegovic Source: AP To understand Bosnian Muslims one should understand their leader: self proclaimed "President of Bosnia", Mr. Alija Izetbegovic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A few (very few) articles were writen in the western media about the fact: THE LEADER OF BOSNIAN MUSLIMS IS THE LEADING FIGURE IN THE MURKY ISLAM FUNDAMENTALIST WORLD.s "Islamic Affairs Analyst" (IAA) publishes studies about Islamic world since 1935. IAA is published 45 times a year, in Great Britain... With the beginning of the civil war in Bosnia, in 1992, they wrote: Excerpts from issue of IAA entitled "MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISM IN BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA" published in 1992: (Quote:) There is a great reluctance in the West to recognize that the fighting in Bosnia is a resurgence of the conflict between Islam and Christendom which shaped five centuries of Balkan history. Disbelief in the West regarding Muslim fundamentalism in Bosnia stems from several causes, among which there is a pervasive, compulsive, complacency which holds that things can never be as bad as they seem, hence European officialdom refused to believe that Hitler meant what he wrote in Mein Kampf. President Alija Izetbegovic's Islamic Declaration, first published in 1970 when it earned him a prison sentence, demanded a fully-fundamentalist Muslim state in Bosnia without scope for non-Muslim institutions or any division between religion, politics, and economics. The book was republished in 1990 in Sarajevo (by Mala Muslimanska Biblioteka). It scathingly attacks Attaturk's reforms and holds up Pakistan as a model to be followed. .... .... Traditionally, Bosnians were among the most militant in the Muslim world. A ruling minority, they were proud of being the spearhead of the jihad into Europe, part of the two-pronged drive along Sava and Danube with Rome as its final objective. Occupation by the Habsburgs in 1878 caused some of them to emigrate, but others waited for fate to redeem them. (end quote)
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Post by MiG on Sept 11, 2008 9:33:20 GMT -5
^ Dude, he wasn't trolling, he was being straight up with you. You can call him an idiot but he can't respond? Some freedom of speech you have here, s**t. Yup, it's like the 4th time too. That's ok though, taking away posts and the right to respond is just like taking away autonomies! Lmao No suprise there! Hahaha.
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