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Post by rex362 on Sept 24, 2008 17:46:11 GMT -5
bo bo bo ...mo' re
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 24, 2008 19:40:19 GMT -5
Sotirios wrote:
Exactly. If the names of Socrates and Aristotle have an automatically connotation to Greeks that no one argues, why do I have the impression every time I mention Alexander of Macedonia is not Alexander of Greece?
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 24, 2008 19:47:59 GMT -5
Someone mentioned here that Arvanites must have also been Greeks! I think they too have evidences: Greek passport (Olyumpic Games in old times), fought for Hellenism, and speak Greek language...it's just that little problem: the name Arvanites - Alexander from Macedon
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 24, 2008 19:52:10 GMT -5
. ...what does it not have to do with Albanians?
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 25, 2008 13:20:07 GMT -5
The English company (television) Challange said so sorry for big mistake to show as macedonian the wrong flag of FYROM and not the real Ancient Macedonian Flag who is nothing more than the Greek one the Sun of Vergina in Blue.He almost apologized in the Statement and thanks all the Greek People, Greek organization for his important messages Greece is the cradle of Western civilisation and the Greek history, language plays and important role to knowledge better our history. .
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 25, 2008 20:10:46 GMT -5
Karta, Beside apologies, did the person who answered "Greek" get his money back as a winner?
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Post by albquietman on Sept 25, 2008 21:26:04 GMT -5
The english tv channel had to come up with something similar to the Karta's post to shut up all the greeks that started b.itching about it and the flag...and yes, the person who answered "greek" got a free pocket calculator
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 25, 2008 21:31:31 GMT -5
lol...got a what? A calculator??? To count the time??? Or the money he accidentally lost?
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Post by albquietman on Sept 25, 2008 21:53:00 GMT -5
A gift, it is considered a gift Teuta...some kid in England a couple of years ago reported a thief that he caught stealing money at an ATM...you know what the bank gave to the kid as a reward for saving thousands of dollars, a pocket calculator
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 25, 2008 21:54:55 GMT -5
lol...lol... I would call it the irony of century...
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Post by albquietman on Sept 25, 2008 22:34:38 GMT -5
Here is the article : A BRAVE teenager who saved a bank thousands of pounds by foiling a cash machine scam was rewarded yesterday with a plastic calculator.
Luke Bridges, 17, tore a false fascia off an ATM machine then fled from crooks waiting nearby who had put it there.
He ran home with the device used to “skim” customers’ PIN codes and clone cards, and called police.
NatWest, owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland, which is worth £54.9BILLION, said they would reward the teenager for his bravery.
But when he opened a parcel from the bank he found a plastic calculator worth a few Pounds.
Furious HSBC cashier Luke said: “I plan to send this thing back with a letter telling the bank they can use it to work out how much money I saved them.
“It looks like the sort of thing they dish out free to bank staff.
“I didn’t expect much but I risked personal injury removing the false fascia and outrunning the crooks.www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article192855.ece
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 25, 2008 23:36:16 GMT -5
free pocket calculator is better than the watch from bush who is tsap tsarap during his visit in albania ;D
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 26, 2008 1:11:29 GMT -5
Åßðå üôé Þôáí ëÜèïò íá óçêþóåé ôçí óçìáßá ôçò FYROM êáé æçôÜ óõãíþìç ãéá ôçí ðáñåîÞãçóç. ÂÝâáéá óå üôé áöïñÜ ôçí åñþôçóç êÜíåé ôçí ãáñãÜñá ìéáò êáé ëÝåé üôé åîÝôáóå äýï ðçãÝò óå üôé áöïñÜ ôçí ïõóßá ôçò. Óáí íá ñùôÜìå ......ç ÅëéóóÜâåô åßíáé Áããëßäá Þ Âñåôáíßäá ?
ÁðëÜ õðåíèõìßæù ôé åßðáí äýï Âñåôáíïß éóôïñéêïß ãéá ôï èÝìá...
Nicholas G. L. Hammond, ‘Philip of Macedon’ Duckworth Publishing, February 1998 "Philip was born a Greek of the most aristocratic, indeed of divine, descent... Philip was both a Greek and a Macedonian, even as Demosthenes was a Greek and an Athenian...The Macedonians over whom Philip was to rule were an outlying family member of the Greek-speaking peoples."
Robin Lane Fox, ‘Alexander the Great’ Penguin USA, Reissue Edition, September 1994 "These plains would be the envy of any Greek visitor who crossed their southern border by the narrow vale of Tempe and the foot of Mount Olympus. He would pass the frontier post of Heraclion, town of Heracles, and stop at the harbour town of Dion, named after the Greek god Zeus, ancestor of the Macedonian kings, and site of a yearly nine-day festival of the arts in honour of Zeus and the nine Greek Muses. There he would walk through city gates in a wall of brick, down the paved length of a sacred way, between the theatre, gymnasiums and a temple with Doric pillars: suitably, the nearby villages were linked with the myth of Orpheus, the famous bard of Greek legend. He was still in a world of Greek gods and sacrifices, of Greek plays and Greek language, though the natives might speak Greek with a northern accent which hardened 'ch' into 'g', 'th' into 'd' and pronounced King Philip as 'Bilip'. Bearing on up the coast, he would find the plain no less abundant and the towns more defiantly Greek.’
ßóùò ï Ãêïõñïý íá áíïßîåé êáíÜ âéâëßï áðü Ïîöüñäç Þ Êáßìðñéôæ êáé íá äéáâÜóåé ôé åèíéêüôçôá Þôáí ï ¸ëëçíáò ÁëÝîáíäñïò Öéëßððïõ.
Éäïý ðùò Ý÷åé ç áíáêïßíùóç...
Thank you for your patience while we’ve looked into all of this.As we said on Monday, the clip on YouTube is from an episode of Take It Or Leave It from over two years ago.
We want you to understand that we do not want to take sides in any international disagreement – contrary to lots of the opinions that have been put to us via email and in the web forums.
To be totally clear: we're not trying to promote a cause, or stir up any trouble. We're just an entertainment channel.We do recognise the importance of conducting quizzes fairly though, which is why we’ve gone back and checked our paperwork.
On the question itself, we have looked back at the records, and we are happy that the question and answer were fair and accurate. As usual, we checked this with two trusted sources. However, one of the main issues you’ve raised is the use of the flag of FYROM to illustrate the question and answer. Having heard many of your arguments on this, and having looked into it ourselves, we can see that this was inaccurate, and confusing for the audience. We unreservedly apologise for any offence that has been caused - that was certainly not our intention.
It is very obvious that this particular question is about ancient history, not modern-day Europe.
Using modern day flags is therefore inappropriate, so we’re going to re-edit this particular episode so that the flags are not shown again.We hope that this goes a long way to addressing people’s concerns, and completely removes any suggestion that we’re making some kind of political statement. We’re sorry to have got this wrong. With best wishes,
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Åëðßæù ðÜíôùò íá âñåèïýí ïé ðáß÷ôåò êáé íá äéêáéùèïýí. ÓõíÞèùò ôÝôïéá ëÜèç "äéïñèþíïíôáé" ðßóù áðü ôá öþôá ôçò äçìïóéüôçôáò.
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Post by chalkedon on Sept 26, 2008 4:44:52 GMT -5
Not as far as I know, but Kanaris should know the answer I guess...he always says that we are latecomers in Balkans. Since he is so sure about that, he might know something about the Illyrians. Aadmin says that Illyrians are a greek tribe by the way...I think hellenized would be a better term. Illyrians could be something like basques of today.. one thing is for sure...it would be better if you guys can come up with the same amount of evidence that exists for us greeks. Its kind of strange how you speak of truth when the only thing going for you is the fact that the albanian language is unique, but still not proven to be related to illyrian language. I wonder if they have found any bones from ancient illyria. Maybe they can test dna if its not contaminated with modern day albos. Samething can apply for us too although...that would surely solve these arguements once and for all...
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Post by worldcit on Sept 26, 2008 6:20:16 GMT -5
Not as far as I know, but Kanaris should know the answer I guess...he always says that we are latecomers in Balkans. Since he is so sure about that, he might know something about the Illyrians. Aadmin says that Illyrians are a greek tribe by the way...I think hellenized would be a better term. Illyrians could be something like basques of today.. one thing is for sure...it would be better if you guys can come up with the same amount of evidence that exists for us greeks. Its kind of strange how you speak of truth when the only thing going for you is the fact that the albanian language is unique, but still not proven to be related to illyrian language. I wonder if they have found any bones from ancient illyria. Maybe they can test dna if its not contaminated with modern day albos. Samething can apply for us too although...that would surely solve these arguements once and for all... ....now you really got in trouble.....
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Post by chalkedon on Sept 26, 2008 6:51:36 GMT -5
i think you took that one out of context...
if we found skeletons that were NOT contaminated throughout the ages from looters then you can compare those with the modern day inhabitants...
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 27, 2008 4:06:06 GMT -5
Show me proof that the Albanian language is tied to any other known language on earth, that is spoken at the moment, or that we know it was spoken. I on the other hand can show you that Serbian is a Slav language and you came to the Balkans. We're one of the oldest nations on earth, together with the Greeks, I know they don't like to accept it because that's how they live, in fear, and stealing someone else's history. (same crap that Serbians did with Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo) Illyrians were Illyrians dude, and the Albanians are the Illyrians, there's no other way to look at it. Greeks are Greeks, and Serbians are Slavs that came to the Balkans. You have nothing to say in this topic, you're a visitor to the Balkans, you have no history here. 99.999 percent of the churches in Kosovo, were Albanian, build by Albanians and used by Albanians until the Serbian machine, came and occupied the land, together with the help of ottoman empire, turned half of them into mosques, destroyed a lot of others and then the rest they turned them into orthodox churches so that they can claim Kosovo, thats what the Serbians did throughout centuries, claim someone elses history, churches, land, whatever else they could get. There's proof of that, and there's proof Serbian govt after govt, creating plans on how to destroy the Albanians and make a greater Serbia by erasing the Albanians from the face of the Balkans. (and erasing their history) Too bad it didn't work right? Now you're the kurva of the balkan and every nation on earth knows what you did. Albanians have no history in the Balkans. You take Serb/Greek churches and claim them as your own. You take Turkish/Saudi mosques and claim them as your own. You take a dead language (even though you don't actually speak the language) and claim it as your own. You take a dead culture (even though you haven't inherited any customs or traditions from that culture) and claim it as your own. Albanians are the most pathetic creatures on the planet with no history of their own and who haven't contributed to European culture whatsoever.
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Post by adolfmussolini on Sept 27, 2008 8:33:38 GMT -5
Show me proof that the Albanian language is tied to any other known language on earth, that is spoken at the moment, or that we know it was spoken. I on the other hand can show you that Serbian is a Slav language and you came to the Balkans. We're one of the oldest nations on earth, together with the Greeks, I know they don't like to accept it because that's how they live, in fear, and stealing someone else's history. (same crap that Serbians did with Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo) Illyrians were Illyrians dude, and the Albanians are the Illyrians, there's no other way to look at it. Greeks are Greeks, and Serbians are Slavs that came to the Balkans. You have nothing to say in this topic, you're a visitor to the Balkans, you have no history here. 99.999 percent of the churches in Kosovo, were Albanian, build by Albanians and used by Albanians until the Serbian machine, came and occupied the land, together with the help of ottoman empire, turned half of them into mosques, destroyed a lot of others and then the rest they turned them into orthodox churches so that they can claim Kosovo, thats what the Serbians did throughout centuries, claim someone elses history, churches, land, whatever else they could get. There's proof of that, and there's proof Serbian govt after govt, creating plans on how to destroy the Albanians and make a greater Serbia by erasing the Albanians from the face of the Balkans. (and erasing their history) Too bad it didn't work right? Now you're the kurva of the balkan and every nation on earth knows what you did. Albanians have no history in the Balkans. You take Serb/Greek churches and claim them as your own. You take Turkish/Saudi mosques and claim them as your own. You take a dead language (even though you don't actually speak the language) and claim it as your own. You take a dead culture (even though you haven't inherited any customs or traditions from that culture) and claim it as your own. Albanians are the most pathetic creatures on the planet with no history of their own and who haven't contributed to European culture whatsoever. Well at least one thing Albanians can say that Serbs will never be able to say is that they're own unique ethnicity, Serbs are part of a larger branch of cursed ethnicities that are not only hated by foreigners(ie Germans, Greeks(yea they love you but they hate your other brothers), but you don't even like each other LOL. I mean for God's sake your name is literally translated to slave. So however "pathetic" Albanians may be, your name still means slave. How can churches be Greek or Serbian or mosques be Turkish? I didn't know religions had nationalities, thank you wise slave for shining light upon us. hahaha. PS: I don't think Albanians will try any border changes with Greece(they can't anyway, part of being in NATO ) but they're not done yet with your precious Yugoslavia...so hide your sexy sisters, mothers, and grandmothers why not ;D
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Post by adolfmussolini on Sept 27, 2008 8:39:49 GMT -5
And for the Greeks in here if Albanians are not Illyrians than you're not the same as ancient Greeks, not even close. Even modern Greek is completely different than ancient Greek so spare us.
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 27, 2008 9:32:09 GMT -5
Well at least one thing Albanians can say that Serbs will never be able to say is that they're own unique ethnicity, Serbs are part of a larger branch of cursed ethnicities that are not only hated by foreigners(ie Germans, Greeks(yea they love you but they hate your other brothers), but you don't even like each other LOL. The reason why Albanians aren't like any other "tribe" or "ethnicity" is because of extreme inbreeding and xenophobia. We Serbs (depending on which part of the Balkans they are from) have been influenced by Bulgarian, Austrian, Hungarian, Turkish and other foreign cultures but our culture was heavily influenced by Greek culture before all the others came about and we have unique aspects to our culture which no other Slavs or Orthodox Christians have. I mean for God's sake your name is literally translated to slave. So however "pathetic" Albanians may be, your name still means slave. The thing is that Serbs were never slaves to anyone and "serv" isn't Roman for "slave" and "Servia" is only seen in British text books before 1914. How can churches be Greek or Serbian or mosques be Turkish? I didn't know religions had nationalities, thank you wise slave for shining light upon us. hahaha. Fine. Churches built by Greeks 1200-1500 years ago, churches built by Serbs 100-1200 years ago, mosques built by Turks 400-500 years ago and mosques financed by Saudis 1-9 years ago.
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