Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 12, 2009 21:54:20 GMT -5
Third party...ie; not albanian or greek... get it?
Leshte ..they decided to stay with whatever customs and culture they were more comfortable with...
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Post by leshte on Jul 12, 2009 21:56:57 GMT -5
You're contradicting yourself there. Your whole theory is a contradiction or better yet a paradox.
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 12, 2009 22:05:41 GMT -5
No contracting ... it's just you trying to weasel out..and coming out with any excuse possible.... I am done.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jul 12, 2009 22:10:45 GMT -5
What exactly is a "third party source"? I still dont understand. Pretty much any book on the Albanians says that Albanians are native to the Balkans and have their origins there.... Im not sure exactly what your looking for. You think your view is the common one?
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 12, 2009 22:13:52 GMT -5
^ All of a sudden you don't understand? Another one weaseling out.... sad....
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jul 12, 2009 22:20:41 GMT -5
Im not weaseling out. I dont understand what you mean by third party. Meaning, do you want me to find an Oxford Professor who says "Albanians are natives"? Cuz if so, NGL Hammond himself has written on that. Or do you want me to bring a primary source that is somehow non-Albanian?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jul 12, 2009 22:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by leshte on Jul 12, 2009 22:26:24 GMT -5
Greek English dictionary. Weasling out = Not being in Agreement with the Canadian Greeks.
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 12, 2009 22:35:45 GMT -5
That is an excellent article... Leshte go read it...
Hammond still doesn't bring any light of Albanians before the date I said...
It's generally thought as a 'dark period' with you guys claiming you were holed up in the mountains..yada yada yada....
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Jul 13, 2009 1:43:15 GMT -5
plato mentioned albanians...
arberesh/arvanite means albanian
thats like saying a hellen is not a greek...two words for the same shiit
so when you say arberesh are greeks...maybe by religion...but by blood, culture, language, and they self identify as albanian(arberesh, the medieval word for albanian) lol stop it coz u make your self look like a old ignorant fool.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 13, 2009 2:18:37 GMT -5
are you guys so daft as actually debate with bitter old fool about our origins? he is just another indoctrinated ignorant greek that believes the world revolves around them, this guy hasn't read a book in his life and is a self confessed albanian hater, go fvcking figure, like this guy is a scholar or smth, people like do not worry me in the slightest.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 13, 2009 3:17:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the foreign name "Albania" predates "Shqiperia"?
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 13, 2009 4:39:58 GMT -5
'albania' its not foreign at all, its how outsiders grouped us as, its merely a derivative of the albanian tribe of 'arbanoi', the people of the arber,
the term 'shqiperi' has much to do this the Scanderbeg era, where the double headed eagle was chosen as the symbol to unite all the people of the 'arber' or 'arberia' or 'albania', because the double headed eagle became such a prominent symbol the people were known as 'the sons of the eagle'
shqiponje,shqipe = eagle shqiperi = the place/land of eagles.
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 13, 2009 5:33:03 GMT -5
What the hell is this? Did you know this phrase was coined 20 years ago?
shqiponje,shqipe = eagle shqiperi = the place/land of eagles.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 13, 2009 5:53:03 GMT -5
not in 1250?
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Jul 13, 2009 8:50:23 GMT -5
I love it how some people get so wound up by the gibberish written by a senile impotent Quebecois.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 13, 2009 9:01:58 GMT -5
isn't it funny how greeks have to often examine, lust and even steal albanian culture in order to feel that bit more greek and establish links with their past?
through us lies the last remaining link of the ancients, the final piece of the jigsaw, we define the balcans, the modern greek race is a tarvesty.
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 13, 2009 10:05:39 GMT -5
It's sad being you.
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 13, 2009 10:13:59 GMT -5
You have no past..and no future.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jul 13, 2009 10:15:08 GMT -5
so what you're saying is that you disagree with my assessment of greeks?
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