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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 6:37:09 GMT -5
see etymology 2, it was always "GRAD". Did you see the albanian "Gardh"? our villages sound like it, instead of grad.
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 7:13:45 GMT -5
(Serbianized) Iraklije (and not Traklije) a toponym on the Bulgarian sea coast (cape Iraklije). those toponyms were left from slavic tribes who settled in Greece who were later hellenized as Patrinos was saying. Those slavs must have been from the southeast slavic group (Bulgarian) not Serbian, since all the slavs in presentday in Greece speak a southeastern slavic (=Bulgarian) dialect. Athenians call the Thessalonikians Bulgarians etc.
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 7:15:32 GMT -5
ohhhhhh and thats NORTHEASTERN SEA COAST
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:15:56 GMT -5
Κων. Ζ΄ ο Πορφυρογέννητος. The name of the Greek Byzantine Historian. The guy was Emperor as well... (sorry for missing this)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:19:38 GMT -5
"Doljani, Smokovo, Bizanj"
find them in Bulgaria or STFU
"a toponym on the Bulgarian sea coast (cape Iraklije)."
HTF (how the fuck) is this relevant?
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 7:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 3, 2009 7:22:02 GMT -5
You say kosovo gypsies have a slava?.
Tell Donnie why did the Bulgars persecute serbian vardarians who had a slava?.
Before the vardarian slavs (serbs) and serbian slavs became christianised, they had slavic pagan traditions which basically were christianised, just like the western european pagan tradition of eggs which symbolised fertility, now that pagan tradition has been christianised as the easter egg tradition. The Turkic Bulgars on the other hand never had such a thing because of their asian origin they believed in tengrisms, hence why you Bulgars don't have a slava!.
When your bulgar turkic asen occupied serbian vardar in the 10/11th centuries why didn't he take this tradition from them?
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 3, 2009 7:22:13 GMT -5
Ok, glossologe...
And Gardhikion was mentioned before 1000, and in 1200, when Albos not even had came down, they weren't even mentioned... Gardhiki is a slavic toponym. Now if you want to make it serbian, croatian or bielorussian i don't care... auta xereis auta les...
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 7:22:56 GMT -5
"a toponym on the Bulgarian sea coast (cape Iraklije)." HTF (how the f**k) is this relevant? it means it isnt a serbanized version of the name.
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 3, 2009 7:24:17 GMT -5
Κων. Ζ΄ ο Πορφυρογέννητος. The name of the Greek Byzantine Historian. The guy was Emperor as well... (sorry for missing this) Pyrros' google is on fire...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:40:25 GMT -5
Ok, glossologe... And Gardhikion was mentioned before 1000, and in 1200, when Albos not even had came down, they weren't even mentioned... Gardhiki is a slavic toponym. Now if you want to make it serbian, croatian or bielorussian i don't care... auta xereis auta les... File, eilikrina, pisteueis oti ksereis pio polla apo mena? Pou exw taksedepsei SE OLES autes tis xwers, kai eida to DOLJANI, to Zagorj, to Leskovac, to Bizani fatsa karta mprosta mou? Patrine, sorry gia tis vrisies, ktl.. alla nomizw den eisai dikaios...
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 7:40:55 GMT -5
You say kosovo gypsies have a slava?. yes to save them from serbanization probably, because then (as today in your case) there were people that were so stupid to actually equalitate 1 custom with ethnicity. Novi, claim the Kosovo gypsies too, ok? dont forget that the other bulgarian slavs (apart from the macedonian bulgarians) also had pagan traditions.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:45:02 GMT -5
IOAN, prostitute!!! find me ONE SINGLE DOLJANI, SMOKOVO, BIZANI in bulgaria.... OR SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR CHRISTS SAKE
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:50:26 GMT -5
Ok, glossologe... And Gardhikion was mentioned before 1000, and in 1200, when Albos not even had came down, they weren't even mentioned... Gardhiki is a slavic toponym. Now if you want to make it serbian, croatian or bielorussian i don't care... auta xereis auta les... File, eilikrina, pisteueis oti ksereis pio polla apo mena? Pou exw taksedepsei SE OLES autes tis xwers, kai eida to DOLJANI, to Zagorj, to Leskovac, to Bizani fatsa karta mprosta mou? Patrine, sorry gia tis vrisies, ktl.. alla nomizw den eisai dikaios... Patrine i bet you are one of those who also think "kotetsi" is slavic right? ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 3, 2009 7:57:30 GMT -5
PATRINE, i didn't hear you commenting on the "slavic" origin of the toponym SERVIA/SERVIANA in Ancient Olympia, PELOPONESE.... (and smth tells me, you are gonna swallow it for good, like the rest of what i w rote)..
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 3, 2009 8:06:59 GMT -5
I can't stand your smattering... Firstly its not Serviana...its Serghiana(Σεργιανά) And its not near Olympia... it was near Andhravidha.... there's the original source ... el.wikisource.org/wiki/Χρονικόν_του_Μορέως ([` 339]) Olympia in the medieval times were called Antilalo( for the non Greeks it means echo)
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 8:09:34 GMT -5
IOAN, prostitute!!! find me ONE SINGLE DOLJANI, SMOKOVO, BIZANI in bulgaria.... OR SHUT THE f**k UP FOR CHRISTS SAKE Pyrrostitute Bizan in Bulgarian means jigger mast, so it may derive from Bulgarian. Smokovo is typical Bulgarian: smok means a type of snake. Doljani could be grecized interpretation of Dolini/Doljani which in Bulgarian means valley. All sound like they derive from Bulgarian.
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Post by Patrinos on Dec 3, 2009 8:10:19 GMT -5
And if there was any connection with the name Servos-serb, that meant that they were something different among the Slavs who gave some toponyms down there... eg...in a area that live only Greeks they don't name a village Graikohori... because it isn't a special characteristic among Greeks... do you get it?
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 8:18:08 GMT -5
also servia could come from servus (in the roman empire - slave).
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Post by ioan on Dec 3, 2009 8:23:03 GMT -5
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