Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 25, 2009 0:33:50 GMT -5
i do not want to "produce" your sciencefiction. There are arheologists, I prefer to believe them, as every logical person would. you spend many hours of your life with this sh1t. Don;t you ever feel the need to say smth of your self? To deny an obvious BS that some of your "archeologists" wrote? Besides that, you seem to only favor those "archeologists" who align with your greater-Tataria dreams.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 3:28:33 GMT -5
These archeologists are not mine. I m citing different sources that talk about archeological cultures. And stop with that tatarian obsession. Its getting tired.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 3:42:07 GMT -5
Ioan there are no avar and hunnic origins in serbs, plus serbs don't call themselves after a hunnic turkic tribe. 100,000 hunnic turkic bulgars mix with slavs when they finally unite in 10th century. Hence why in racial anthropology up to 5% of bulgars, around 400,000 of them look like a central asian turanid.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 3:50:35 GMT -5
I have never seen a central asian turanids in Bulgaria, and I am originally from the northeastern Bulgaria, where originally the Bulgars settled. Its a serbian political propaganda (so sucsessful u actually managed to create another people out of us, the Bulgarians) that most northeastern bulgarians are different than the other Bulgarians. Most of the Bulgarians are Medireranean people and such are the eastern Bulgarians too. Its our genetic inheritance from the Thracians. There are very few blond Bulgarians. I have been in Serbia. The southern Serbs and the people in eastern serbia are not different from Bulgarians. The western Serbs are more taller but apart from that they do not differ from us too. I can say the same thing about Montenegrins. And yes you have avar origin too. You may deny it, it doesnt change a thing.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 5:07:51 GMT -5
exactly shejtani, i totally agree with you
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 25, 2009 5:11:28 GMT -5
shejtani, how can you say so, when you cannot comprehend even 1% of what i write ;D. Sit back, take some deep breaths, use your brain, and come back when you will have smth to say. PS Your albanian "mouth" complex is so badly designed, that cannot be found in any other balkanian race. In Southern Serbia, i can distinguish an albo from at least 500 meters away... so you are the one talking crap.
Ioan in Sofia i found many many blonde people (at the same proportions with the Bosnian muslims - blonder than Bosnian Serbs), so the Thracian fairytale goes out the window.
Now please tell me, how the 1,000,000 turkish minority look like ?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 25, 2009 5:14:16 GMT -5
I have never seen a central asian turanids in Bulgaria, and I am originally from the northeastern Bulgaria, where originally the Bulgars settled. Its a serbian political propaganda (so sucsessful u actually managed to create another people out of us, the Bulgarians) that most northeastern bulgarians are different than the other Bulgarians. Most of the Bulgarians are Medireranean people and such are the eastern Bulgarians too. Its our genetic inheritance from the Thracians. There are very few blond Bulgarians. I have been in Serbia. The southern Serbs and the people in eastern serbia are not different from Bulgarians. The western Serbs are more taller but apart from that they do not differ from us too. I can say the same thing about Montenegrins. And yes you have avar origin too. You may deny it, it doesnt change a thing. Can you please enumerate the places where you've been in Serbia? Where in South? Where in West? cause personally, i didnt find any differences between heights in Nis (south), Zlatibor (west) (and Sofia). Also i found the Sofians fairly tall. (seeing old people in supermarkets, etc...)
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 5:18:00 GMT -5
I dont think the turks in Bulgaria phisically differ from us, because most probably the majority of them were turkified Bulgarians. In Sofia there are not many blond people, I live here daily and I can deffinately say it. Maybe u are talking about perhidrolic blond girls, but they are not naturally blond
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 5:36:06 GMT -5
"Bulgaria = 60% East Mediterranean, 15% Alpine, 15% Dinaric, 5% Turanid, 5% Nordish" "Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia and Macedonia = 75% Dinaric, 10% West Mediterranean (most common on the coast), 10% Noric and 5% Neo-Danubian (most common in the north) = 15% periphery Nordish types" www.racialcompact.com/nordishrace.htmlI think there also should be 10% East Mediterrean Pontid race in serbia, anyway, Richard McCulloch states that 5% of the Bulgarian population can pass as a central asian. ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 5:38:10 GMT -5
Shetjani, look, l don't post stuff which l have never seen or read before. Regarding the history of vardar, l'm 100% spot on!!.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 5:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 5:57:54 GMT -5
I ve been to alot of places in Serbia (I travelled with a car and we stopped on our way to Budva, Montenegro in almost any big Serbian city because none of us have been in Serbia before, most of them I do not remember the names...). After that I ve passed through the whole coast of Montenegro and southern Croatia. I ve been to many places in Bosnia and Herzegovina, including Mostar and Saraevo, so I ve travelled alot in ex yugo. Actually this trip (done september last year) made me realize how close we are. Except that I fell in love with adratic coast. Kotor was magnigicent. I ve been to Neum, the big presence of police was a little bit irritating. As a whole I loved Montenegro and Croatia and Serbia was also interesting.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 6:26:43 GMT -5
"The minor portions of Asian genes present within some modern Bulgarians, were likely introduced from the Bulgars and other steppe's peoples who also contributed to the Bulgarian ethnogenesis, as numbers of Kumans, Pechenegs and Avars, which is indicated through the limited presence of some rare alleles and haplotypes." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BulgariansHence the 5% turanid type also.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 6:42:50 GMT -5
however having in mind that avars lived mainly in Serbia, pointing that out is kind of ironic. You ignore my other genetic reasearch, where no turanid was found.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 7:00:29 GMT -5
^ that is talking genetics, however Richard McCulloch talks about Turanid race which is 5% of the Bulgarian population. The Avars disappeared from the Balkans having left no racial nor genetical impact on the serbs, besides l thought the Avars had their homeland in present day Hungary?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 25, 2009 7:01:14 GMT -5
Maknews l won't take seriously ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Nov 25, 2009 7:56:09 GMT -5
Just an info, these dubious statistics, published by "Igenea" originally have been revoked by now. They were extremely disputed and criticized. They have removed them from their site now...after a new administration assumed control over the gene- company. These statistics were anything but scientifically revisable. It was just a cheap attempt of the prior administration to make easily profit. It was not worth it, Igenea lost almost all of its credibility in the last months, especially among experts in this field.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 8:03:18 GMT -5
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 8:18:30 GMT -5
According to this book The early medieval Balkans: a critical survey from the sixth to the late ... îò John Van Antwerp Fine Serbs (the initial one before mixing with the slavs) werent slavs, they were Iranians. Also the Serbs are described as having very small numbers... Also the process of mixing of the big numbered slavs and small numbered serbs (iranian) is compared to bulgar and slav intermixing. So in reality, the Serbs also have non slavic name and before the mixing with the slavs formed an Iranian aristocrasy, later assimilated in the slavic sea (as in Bulgaria).
In conclusion, we have to accept that: a) the Serbs were admited to the Bolkans by the Roman emperor; b) they were Iranian and were ruling minority compared to their subjects the slavs.
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Post by ioan on Nov 25, 2009 8:19:39 GMT -5
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