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Post by radovic on Feb 26, 2008 10:30:00 GMT -5
They represent 100% of the Montenegrins in vojvodina, and most of them in serbia. I never said I would never go to serbia. I actually like Serbians, I just dont like posrbice a.k.a serbs from Montenegro. Changing the facts when it suits you best. The post you've posted clearly show you'd never go to Serbia and that you hate Serbs. And now you admit you hate over 30% of the Montenegrin population. Yes, that shows what kind of a Montenegrin you are. Part of my family lives in Vojvodina. Not only that but statistics do not match up your claims. Every poll shows support for autonomy, let alone independence, is decreasing among people in Vojvodina. The latest statistics by Skan indicate that only 5% support an independent Vojvodina, that a little under 6% support the total abolishment of Vojvodina, 6% want Serbia federalized, 20% are satisfied with the current level autonomy, 20% want less autonomy and 34% want more. Again. It is a very mixed pircture. And my view uis correct if you look at these views (Less then 5% of the population is openly secessionist. About 10% are federalists. And the rest are split between those who oppose autonomy and those who support varying degrees of autonomy.) Also look at the current structure of Vojvodina's legislature. The radicals have 30% of the seats, Tadic's party has just under 30%, the Alliance of Vojvodina Hungarians has just under 10%, the Socialist have just under 7%, , Together for Vojvodina under 6%, the Serbia strength movement has under 6%, Kostunica's party 5%, G-17+ under 2%, Reformists of Vojvodina under 2%, a Subotica party has less then 1%, Democratic Party of Vojvodina Hungarians also less then 1%, while a coalition of independents have some 3%. If you look at this. You'll see that potentially secessionist and autonomist movements are in the minority. Representing less then 20% of the vote. Also. What necessarily makes you sure secessionists/autonomists and Hungarians would work together. The Hungarians want autonomy within Vojvodina and are willing to support the abolishment of Vojvodina if it would be in their best interests. This is something that no autonomist or secessionist party in Vojvodina would support.
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Post by albaniansoul on Feb 26, 2008 11:58:15 GMT -5
Reality is that Vojvodina got Serbian majority who are against independence. We know what that equals.
However, as Serbs are going in the wrong direction when it comes to Serbias population. They should watch out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 12:52:01 GMT -5
Serbs have heavily populated Vojvodina in the last two decades.
Hungarians have slowly vanished , congratulation to serbian ethnic cleansing .
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Post by terroreign on Feb 26, 2008 13:41:59 GMT -5
Just because I make fun of serbia alot, and I dont like their politicians, does not mean I never been there, nor would I stop going there. And why would I hate serbs? As I have said and always will, I cant hate ethnicities, I can hate ideas.
Yea, now the Hungarians know how the serbs feel about kosovo. VOJVODINA IS THE HEART OF HUNGARY!!!! XDDDDDD
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Post by radovic on Feb 26, 2008 13:55:00 GMT -5
Reality is that Vojvodina got Serbian majority who are against independence. We know what that equals. However, as Serbs are going in the wrong direction when it comes to Serbias population. They should watch out. Actually. Vojvodina is porbably the only area of Serbia where the population is secure. The last census did not count refugees, and if they were counted their would be an additional 300,000+ Serbs. Not only that but except for Gypsies and some groups that make up less then 0.3% of the population, most groups in vojvodina have a population below that of Serbs.
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Post by radovic on Feb 26, 2008 13:56:37 GMT -5
Serbs have heavily populated Vojvodina in the last two decades. Hungarians have slowly vanished , congratulation to serbian ethnic cleansing . B.S. In SFRY their was no ethnic cleansing of Hungarians. since the end of WWI they've had the lowest birthrate among the groups in Vojvodina. The same is the case now. In the 1990s their drop was larger because many of them went to Hungary for economic reasons or to avoid the draft.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 14:42:11 GMT -5
dont tell me about Vojvodina thats where I hail from
many Majars saw the writings (graffiti) on the walls in the last few decades and slowly left
it was an economic and slow burn cleansing
"ovoid the draft" , how funny who would want to be in your army and commit crimes
I personally know serbs that avoided draft
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Post by vinjak on Feb 26, 2008 15:47:15 GMT -5
many Majars saw the writings (graffiti) on the walls in the last few decades and slowly left
100% corect except they left because they saw that there was no way of snatching Vojvodina, at the hight of the bombings is when there chance was the best, but they did not succeed due to the large influx of refugees so it was check mate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 18:13:52 GMT -5
maybe they left so no one kills or rapes their children
a serbian commodity
but its good that you know about the refugees ...one day we make em refugee again
they have much practice in this trade of being refugees , why ?
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Post by vinjak on Feb 26, 2008 18:17:09 GMT -5
I just gave you the reason of why they left so dont play stupid and dont provoke. Have a nice day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 18:20:19 GMT -5
cant handle it ?
surprised you did not delete as usual
anyway we have good records and documents of who lived and owned what . remember that well
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Post by vinjak on Feb 26, 2008 18:24:39 GMT -5
LOL what you mean I cant handle it ? handle what ? your instigating comments then yes I cannot handle it but your last post was your opinion and a little jab desingned to provoke I have decided to leave it as you cought me in a good mood, however your past performances deserved deletion and any othe performance of the same will be met with the same action. anyway we have good records and documents of who lived and owned what . remember that well LOL who is we ?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 26, 2008 20:46:03 GMT -5
"Typical of your ilk. I suggest you stay out of Sydney Rd for a while and stay off those dodgy kebabs as they can rot your brain."
lmao that is so funny, his from Broadmedows, tells people alot.
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Post by Fender on Feb 26, 2008 21:38:43 GMT -5
"Typical of your ilk. I suggest you stay out of Sydney Rd for a while and stay off those dodgy kebabs as they can rot your brain." lmao that is so funny, his from Broadmedows, tells people alot. Broadmeadows, why am I not surprised. Its feral land out in that suburb, its where Eddie Maguire hails from. Enough said about the Collingwood scum.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 26, 2008 22:09:16 GMT -5
Ok terror you say the Hungarians are restless show the proof bro you are asking for proof from others who contradict your view so how about you show us where you got your info from.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 27, 2008 2:46:13 GMT -5
Sure : "Unknown persons hurled a hand grenade at the Subotica home of Jozef Kasza, who heads the League of Vojvodina Hungarians, in the early hours of 30 August, the private Beta news agency reported. There was slight damage to Kasza's house and the one next door, but nobody was injured. Police said that the device was a "hand grenade" and are investigating. Kasza was not immediately willing to make any comment to the media. He is an outspoken critic of nationalist tendencies in Serbian politics who told the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe in February that Serbia is "sinking in nationalist euphoria" (see "RFE/RL Newsline," 15 September 2004 and 17 February 2005, and "RFE/RL Balkan Report," 18 February 2005)." www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_vojvodina.htm
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Post by wbb on Feb 27, 2008 5:43:48 GMT -5
yep that's right Fender, because Vojvodina was taken from Hungary by force same how kosova was taken by force. So Vojvodina has the right anytime to succeed. really? im racist? why? because i dont support the serb's greedy conquest? no i dont neither i support Austria-Hungary's greedy conquest over Serbia in 1914 and personally im not a racist, and like what Novi Pazar said i live in Broady which is a very multi-cultural area, i get along with every one there even Serbs, but to tell honestly my serbian friends doesnt agree Vojvodina being part of Serbia, they told me the truth like this, Vojvodina is not ours, Kosovo is ours". now u say Fender? Fender dont mention sydney road, cause u dont who's gonna take on ya there, watch out for Leboz habib. they my allies. remember the shooting in camberfield last year Fender, i was there, seeing my cousin shooting one my ex mate just because my ex mate was trying ask my Syrian fiancee out.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 27, 2008 6:57:32 GMT -5
"Broadmeadows, why am I not surprised. Its feral land out in that suburb, its where Eddie Maguire hails from. Enough said about the Collingwood scum."
lmao.....now eddie maguire is scum.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 27, 2008 7:02:58 GMT -5
"remember the shooting in camberfield last year Fender, i was there, seeing my cousin shooting one my ex mate just because my ex mate was trying ask my Syrian fiancee out."
You told me that it was a maori that asked her out?
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Post by Fender on Feb 27, 2008 8:52:21 GMT -5
Reality is that Vojvodina got Serbian majority who are against independence. We know what that equals. However, as Serbs are going in the wrong direction when it comes to Serbias population. They should watch out. What you have dscribed above is the exact thing that has happened in Kosovo. Illegal immigration which has lead to an increase of one type of population in an artifical manner in order to annexe property from a souverign nation. Very poor from the Albanians. Very poor.
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