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Post by terroreign on May 16, 2008 15:09:35 GMT -5
I dont know one greek who calls himself a macedonian, why is there no macedonian-greek associations? All of that crap you have of some regional identity came after Fyrom got into the mix
You saw their presense as a threat and started overnight to become huge "macedonians"
Pshh lame
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Post by Arxileas on May 16, 2008 22:48:31 GMT -5
Macedonia is a region - not in Greece only. The region with same name is in Bulgaria... as well as rep. of Macedonia. Exactly why the Bulgar’s back then were identifying them self’s as Macedonians "for Geographical" reasons ONLY. There was never a Macedonian nation. That's where you are wrong, Alexander and his Macedonians were Greek, they spoke and wrote in Greek also they spread the Greek ways and culture to the then known world. FYI Greece is the copy right holder of the Vergina star. FYROM has no right to use that name for they have no connection to anything Macedonian and is a fact. By Kiro Gligorov... * We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century (AD)... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians. o Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe (February 26, 1992)
* We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD). o Toronto Star (March 15, 1992)So says the peasant him self, get to my level of pride, culture and dignity then come to me with that forked tongue.
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Post by Arxileas on May 16, 2008 22:54:10 GMT -5
terroreign I have never met a Montenegro who claims he wasn't a Serb before like you.
I am a Macedonian to my fellow Greeks, to foreigners I am simply a Greek and proud of it. When we Greeks converse are ok with it as to know where in Greece we are from.
Not rocket sceince to understand.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 17, 2008 0:12:02 GMT -5
"terroreign I have never met a Montenegro who claims he wasn't a Serb before like you."
Arxil remember, his grandparents are Albanians from this vardar who migrated to montenegro.
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Post by Kassandros on May 17, 2008 4:16:23 GMT -5
So.. he is from the Albanomacedonian dynasty? lol lol lol lol ? OMG lol lol Life has become so weird in Balkans.. lol lol Now.. except the Buglarians who claim to be Macedonians.. we have also Albano"macedonians" from Montenegro who claim it too?! lol lol What else God? lol lol
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Post by pagane on May 17, 2008 4:31:04 GMT -5
Not so. We claim to be Bulgarians ;D and regard fyromians as Bulgarians too.
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Post by Rhezus on May 17, 2008 5:33:11 GMT -5
Cause they are macedonians and no Greek or Bulgarians. In GR and BG there are two regions, but the main part is the Rep.of Macedonia. They've always been macedonians - before year 681AD and before you greek had polices - in south of Greece.
Haha... ;D They were just hellenistic, which means non Greek, but influnced by hellenistic culture. Same as some southern Thracians were.. Herodotus, the father of histry described Macedone ppl as "omogenos" to the Thracians --> that says the same - non greek!!
Hey hey... you still live with the past. And that's your problem. Because your culture today is so wildish that you attack ppl on the streets. Just because you can't handle your presence and live in those fictious fantasies of "ancient culture".
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Post by pagane on May 17, 2008 6:38:13 GMT -5
Now... Rhezus claims he is Bulgarian. I don't think so but what is more important is that this is his own opinion that is shared by noone in Bulgaria. No sensible Bulgarian would say such things about fyromians.
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 7:01:53 GMT -5
Rhezus try and prove it, that a Macedonian nation ever existed before 1944 "Tito's creation"...If you do, you'll be the first one ever on cyber space to so. Fame and fortune awaits for you. You won't be able to prove it because it never existed. It's not mentioned any where even on important treaties. You know what treaties I am refering to don't you ? Why ? because there was never a Macedonian nation pre 1944, and before 1944 it was simply known as Vardar...Go figure that out. And the only people ever to be refered to as Macedonians were the Greeks and the Bulgarians, now for the Bulgarians I have explained it on my prior post, yep for Geographical reasons ONLY and not ethnical. Macedonia is and will always be Greek, the artifacts cannot be forged I am afraid. Either wise stick to sewing, cause you really suck on Geographic’s and history of this region ;D
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 7:05:17 GMT -5
Arxil remember, his grandparents are Albanians from this vardar who migrated to montenegro. Ha ! So a true FyromianAlbanian. Thanks for clearing that up Novi.
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Post by Rhezus on May 17, 2008 7:47:27 GMT -5
It is you, talking about "nations", without having in mind that there were no "greek nations" as well - polices only. Macedonia existed in antiquity and became a kingdom which you can neigther deny or claim. Historians described these ppl as non greek. It's your problem if you can't handle it. Don't tell me the maps don't suit you - I just don't care.
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 8:04:54 GMT -5
I t is you, talking about "nations", without having in mind that there were no "greek nations" as well - polices only. Macedonia existed in antiquity and became a kingdom which you can neigther deny or claim. Historians described these ppl as non greek. It's your problem if you can't handle it. Don't tell me the maps don't suit you - I just don't care. Raezus you just pawned your self. That is a map showing Greek name places and it emphises the Hellenic city state of Macedonia NOT a nation BUT a Hellenic city state. Even the whole of Thrace is Greek according to that Look at the Greek name places within Macedonian area. And Fyrom is no where near there is it, yep it's up way little higher Shows the true region of Greek Epiros ;D Thanks for this map !!!! .
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Post by Rhezus on May 17, 2008 8:27:44 GMT -5
Showing "Greek name places"... a new "greek" invetion!!! ;D ;D ;D Haha... "city state of Macedonia"!!!! Hey village clown, this map shows the lands of the Macedonian Kingdom and the acuired territories around it. Can you read maps?? Thrace was part of the Philip's kingdom for a period.! And he made wars against greeks or hellenes - he did not like them much.. Mecedonia
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 8:51:20 GMT -5
Showing "Greek name places"... a new "greek" invetion!!! ;D ;D ;D Haha... "city state of Macedonia"!!!! Hey village clown, this map shows the lands of the Macedonian Kingdom and the acuired territories around it. Can you read maps?? Thrace was part of the Philip's kingdom for a period.! And he made wars against greeks or hellenes - he did not like them much.. Yep stick to sewing for you are clueless on history in this region. So when you get pawned you insult, a sign of inferior complexes. Ahhh bre Raezus maybe just maybe one day you'll wake up from your racist attitude. Not the Greeks fault you have no cultural past mate. And all you can do is post a map with Greek name places ? Prooving even further the Greekness of Macedonia. You read right they are indeed Greek name places or are you that ashamed of your past that you have to attempt to claim something ? Any other proof Still looking for your so called fake Macedonia nation lol lol ;D
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 8:53:07 GMT -5
Can you provide me a source to that map. It shows parts of Bulgaria and Albania this is a Fyrom greater map can you understand this at all ? .
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Post by Rhezus on May 17, 2008 9:06:13 GMT -5
Racist, me... I don't attack peaceful travellers or force them to tear of signs and plates. ;D ;D And you don't have a clue of my cultural past, because of the deviated one of yours.. You, greek ppl still "grecizise" everything you see, because of you own complex. ;D ;D I'm proud but you are ashamed and claim "something" which is not yours.
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 9:06:38 GMT -5
Well ? can you ? provide a source to that last greater map....
Why do you have the need to unsult users when the heat get's higher for you. ? Having a problem debating or not used to having simple discussions ?
You should go out more often mate. It's desturbing seeing a fellow Moderator like you acting this way.
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 9:07:30 GMT -5
I am still waiting for the source to that map mr racist you are indeed.
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Post by Arxileas on May 17, 2008 9:09:01 GMT -5
How do you know that ? You have proved jack chit to me BUT I have proven the Greekness of Macedonia many times..
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Post by Rhezus on May 17, 2008 9:12:34 GMT -5
Haha.. you haven't proved anything. Macedonians were/are of non greek origin - that's all.
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